Will we see UAE on the PS3? - Page 3

Dreedo · 12 January 2011, 19:57

lol prob wont touch mine, although i dont use PSN much, except for one game, i've switched to Xbox now for my online stuff, so i'm not sure what i'll do, hopefully a way will come out that lets me have CFW and online, then i'll switch.

deicidal · 12 January 2011, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Dreedo

Thats why Wii games suck, because its the easiest console to hack and Nintendo don't give a damn about people hacking it. Well that's my theory. :P

Could also be that the wii (basically a rehashed gamecube) hardware is very inferior compared to the ps3 and 360.

As for the Piracy thing, it has been rampant on the 360 for sometime as the silly billys made it so the 360 cant touch the drives firmware.

seuden · 12 January 2011, 20:37

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Originally Posted by deicidal

Could also be that the wii (basically a rehashed gamecube) hardware is very inferior compared to the ps3 and 360.

Being on an Amiga forum I would have expected better than what you've stated above. It's not always horsepower that makes the best games.

I gotta say that actually there are many many games on the Wii that are fun, you just have to sift through all the shit ones. Unfortunately because the Wii is easier to develop for and because the Wii is in more homes than the other two current generation consoles it's more attractive to release a game for by game developers.

deicidal · 12 January 2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by seuden

Being on an Amiga forum I would have expected better than what you've stated above. It's not always horsepower that makes the best games.

A very good point, which i should have stated myself but some horse power is always good.

Dreedo · 12 January 2011, 21:31

Yeah a certain amount of Horsepower is needed, the Wii is decent enough, for a 6th gen console, but for a 7th gen it's far outclassed. I think the 360 and PS3 are actually a lot more powerful than anticipated.

Any news on how it went Bippy?

Ian · 12 January 2011, 21:35

Wii is the least attractive console for devs as it is by far the easiest console to hack and nintendo cannot do a damn thing about it if you do it.

That is why all the devs cannot get enough of move and kinect, finally they might make some money back from that spent coming up with ideas for full motion control games.

At least with the PS3 and xbox there is the chance you will get your console bricked if you try which means that very few will actually bother whereas with the wii everyone that knows about it will have done it without a care in the world.

As for the Wii having good games, 95% of them are made by Nintendo, there are very few games made by third parties that don't suck.

Dreedo · 12 January 2011, 21:38

Yeah i mean when Nintendo send a mail informing you of a system update they actually say 'If you have modified your system in any manner, please do not update, as it may cause damage to your system', or something along those lines. They even try to protect those who hack it. :P

BippyM · 12 January 2011, 22:09

Didn't work. Ps3 is still dead

Dreedo · 13 January 2011, 00:55

Ah damn shame.

Well the hackers seem confident that Sony will lose in court, so hopefully all goes well, that should mean all Sony could do to anyone is ban them from PSN. Which will no doubt be worked around.

The activity of the PS3 homebrew scene is quite amazing, considering how closed up it is.

Theres already a C64, a Vic-20, a SNES and a Genesis emulator. I believe there was also a PS1 emu a while back too.

BippyM · 13 January 2011, 01:10

I m not too bothered. Was kinda hoping the rsod could be fixed, but alas it is not to be. Guess i'll eBay it

Vairn · 13 January 2011, 02:29

Had a look at the Homebrew SDK, it will be simple as to port my emulator over.
I Just need a Linux install, to develop it on.
I don't have a PS3 though

Dreedo · 13 January 2011, 11:14

Mmmm Hermes and Failoverflow just released the latest GIT package for the PS3 development tools (despite taking them offline when they were initially sued), said they were trying to get them out onto the internet before they become potentially illegal.

Ian · 13 January 2011, 20:52

I think the hackers actually know they are fubar'ed actually.

But it matters not, the stuff is out there now.

Sony will just brick every console, which apparently they can do without people being online so the hackers next challenge will be finding the part of images that sends the "Break yo'selve mofo" message.

deicidal · 13 January 2011, 21:27

Am really not sure if they are, i still reckon it could go either way. I had a very quick glance through the sony evidence before and it seems dodgy to say the least.

BippyM · 13 January 2011, 21:34

I really don't see how Sony can legally brick a console, come on they cost well over £200 and if I didn't OWN it then it is rented/leased and should be covered under an unlimited warranty of sorts.

Consumer Rights and all that jiz

deicidal · 13 January 2011, 21:43

I seem to remember reading somewhere that there is something built into the ps3 as when they experimented with mod chips it sent the console to hell, also that the 360 has one as well (not including the RROD) but has never been used. Of course this could be all bullshit. And like you say bippym i am sure the legal consequences of pulling a move like that would not be good

BippyM · 13 January 2011, 21:46

Well if it is true my other PS3 has suffered this bullshit fate, and while updating to firmware 3.41

RSOD it is, though a repair shop reckons it is another side-effect of the YLOD. I fixed that myself, but don't know if it is worth the effort!!!

I paid £300 for each PS3, so I expect the, to work for a longer period than 18months...

deicidal · 13 January 2011, 22:21

Well I have gone through 3 360's which is a chuffing dirsgrace for quality, if microsoft think i am going to by another they can shove it up there shoddy goods hole

Dreedo · 13 January 2011, 22:33

Well if your xbox had been bought within the past 3 years you could have just got it repaired for free under warranty, if it was an RROD.

Really 360 reliability is far superior to PS3, taking into account that MS actually deal with their problems and are cheaper anyway. Both of my friends have had their blu-ray drives break on their PS3's and guess what, £80 quotes from Sony to fix. And thats a disgrace.

Vairn · 13 January 2011, 23:16

ok, My code compiles on the PS3 SDK, I just need to implement the Video Renderer, and controller emulation.

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12 January 2011, 19:57	#41
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	lol prob wont touch mine, although i dont use PSN much, except for one game, i've switched to Xbox now for my online stuff, so i'm not sure what i'll do, hopefully a way will come out that lets me have CFW and online, then i'll switch.

12 January 2011, 21:31	#45
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Yeah a certain amount of Horsepower is needed, the Wii is decent enough, for a 6th gen console, but for a 7th gen it's far outclassed. I think the 360 and PS3 are actually a lot more powerful than anticipated. Any news on how it went Bippy?

12 January 2011, 21:35	#46
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,299	Wii is the least attractive console for devs as it is by far the easiest console to hack and nintendo cannot do a damn thing about it if you do it. That is why all the devs cannot get enough of move and kinect, finally they might make some money back from that spent coming up with ideas for full motion control games. At least with the PS3 and xbox there is the chance you will get your console bricked if you try which means that very few will actually bother whereas with the wii everyone that knows about it will have done it without a care in the world. As for the Wii having good games, 95% of them are made by Nintendo, there are very few games made by third parties that don't suck.

12 January 2011, 21:38	#47
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Yeah i mean when Nintendo send a mail informing you of a system update they actually say 'If you have modified your system in any manner, please do not update, as it may cause damage to your system', or something along those lines. They even try to protect those who hack it. :P

12 January 2011, 22:09	#48
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Didn't work. Ps3 is still dead

13 January 2011, 00:55	#49
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Ah damn shame. Well the hackers seem confident that Sony will lose in court, so hopefully all goes well, that should mean all Sony could do to anyone is ban them from PSN. Which will no doubt be worked around. The activity of the PS3 homebrew scene is quite amazing, considering how closed up it is. Theres already a C64, a Vic-20, a SNES and a Genesis emulator. I believe there was also a PS1 emu a while back too.

13 January 2011, 01:10	#50
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I m not too bothered. Was kinda hoping the rsod could be fixed, but alas it is not to be. Guess i'll eBay it

13 January 2011, 02:29	#51
Vairn The Grim-Button Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Age: 43 Posts: 415	Had a look at the Homebrew SDK, it will be simple as to port my emulator over. I Just need a Linux install, to develop it on. I don't have a PS3 though

13 January 2011, 11:14	#52
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Mmmm Hermes and Failoverflow just released the latest GIT package for the PS3 development tools (despite taking them offline when they were initially sued), said they were trying to get them out onto the internet before they become potentially illegal.

13 January 2011, 20:52	#53
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,299	I think the hackers actually know they are fubar'ed actually. But it matters not, the stuff is out there now. Sony will just brick every console, which apparently they can do without people being online so the hackers next challenge will be finding the part of images that sends the "Break yo'selve mofo" message.

13 January 2011, 21:27	#54
deicidal Registered Insane Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ununited Kingdom Posts: 792	Am really not sure if they are, i still reckon it could go either way. I had a very quick glance through the sony evidence before and it seems dodgy to say the least.

13 January 2011, 21:34	#55
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I really don't see how Sony can legally brick a console, come on they cost well over £200 and if I didn't OWN it then it is rented/leased and should be covered under an unlimited warranty of sorts. Consumer Rights and all that jiz

13 January 2011, 21:43	#56
deicidal Registered Insane Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ununited Kingdom Posts: 792	I seem to remember reading somewhere that there is something built into the ps3 as when they experimented with mod chips it sent the console to hell, also that the 360 has one as well (not including the RROD) but has never been used. Of course this could be all bullshit. And like you say bippym i am sure the legal consequences of pulling a move like that would not be good

13 January 2011, 21:46	#57
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Well if it is true my other PS3 has suffered this bullshit fate, and while updating to firmware 3.41 RSOD it is, though a repair shop reckons it is another side-effect of the YLOD. I fixed that myself, but don't know if it is worth the effort!!! I paid £300 for each PS3, so I expect the, to work for a longer period than 18months...

13 January 2011, 22:21	#58
deicidal Registered Insane Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ununited Kingdom Posts: 792	Well I have gone through 3 360's which is a chuffing dirsgrace for quality, if microsoft think i am going to by another they can shove it up there shoddy goods hole

13 January 2011, 22:33	#59
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Well if your xbox had been bought within the past 3 years you could have just got it repaired for free under warranty, if it was an RROD. Really 360 reliability is far superior to PS3, taking into account that MS actually deal with their problems and are cheaper anyway. Both of my friends have had their blu-ray drives break on their PS3's and guess what, £80 quotes from Sony to fix. And thats a disgrace.

13 January 2011, 23:16	#60
Vairn The Grim-Button Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Age: 43 Posts: 415	ok, My code compiles on the PS3 SDK, I just need to implement the Video Renderer, and controller emulation.

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