EAB/Lemon Super League 2008: Round 7 - Alien Breed 2 - Page 3

TCD · 12 July 2008, 16:21

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Originally Posted by john4p

Even though I got annoyed by some bugs I still enjoy(ed) them a bit...

I wont tell anyone that you like(d) them a bit

You are right about that they are a bit overrated. Like I said they are really fun to play with two players, but the level design and gameplay are not that great as some say. It is just a funny (and buggy

) top-view shooter nothing more

Graham Humphrey · 12 July 2008, 16:23

I agree. Decent games, certainly, and I do enjoy them but I won't be going back to them that often. Definitely no classics.

TCD · 12 July 2008, 16:27

Have you tried the two player mode with your brother Graham? It really doubles the fun playing the game

Last weekend I told a friend of mine who visited me we were doing this competition and then we have played a round with two players. Then I knew again why I liked that game so much back in the days (tm)

Graham Humphrey · 12 July 2008, 16:34

No I haven't actually. Might try it later on.

TCD · 12 July 2008, 17:40

Phew, even if AB2 is not as hard as the first part, it's surely demanding

Fighting back these alien hordes becomes quite stressy after a while

310.425

@Graham
I hope you will like the two player mode

mailman · 12 July 2008, 20:50

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Originally Posted by john4p

Thanks for the condolences.

Thank god I'm finally done with Alien Breed II. I'll now try to beat its predecessor, too.

Could you tell us something about your technique of playing? Simultanously you hate this game and you rule in it. Where's the catch?

mailman · 12 July 2008, 20:53

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Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Nice score mailman

Have you completed the game in that run?

No, I haven't and I doubt I will (unless I play on WinUAE but I don't want to). I didn't even get to military tower. The game is tough when you can't use rebounders (I wrote about it before - WHDLoad slave has a bug which on my systems quits the game if there are too many rebounder projectiles on the screen). I play using triple lazer only.

TCD · 12 July 2008, 21:02

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Originally Posted by mailman

No, I haven't and I doubt I will (unless I play on WinUAE but I don't want to). I didn't even get to military tower. The game is tough when you can't use rebounders (I wrote about it before - WHDLoad slave has a bug which on my systems quits the game if there are too many rebounder projectiles on the screen). I play using triple lazer only.

Last round the instable Turrican slave and now the same thing with Alien Breed 2

I bought the rebounders as soon as possible because, like you said, they are the best weapon in the game. If you can't use them it's much harder. There should be a thread like 'WHDLoad slaves with bugs' so Graham could check if there are any known issues with the games we play

john4p · 12 July 2008, 21:51

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Originally Posted by mailman

Could you tell us something about your technique of playing? Simultanously you hate this game and you rule in it. Where's the catch?

Well, I can highly recommend the bouncer (rebound) - it's the only weapon you'll ever need. Of course you'll later need a flamethrower to close the gas hole - but therefore the weakest version is sufficient.
I also didn't buy the map for 45.000 credits and that way could heal me 15 more times (15 x 3.000).

But I've just read you can't use the bouncer weapon. That's certainly a disadvantage.

mailman · 12 July 2008, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by john4p

Well, I can highly recommend the bouncer (rebound) - it's the only weapon you'll ever need. Of course you'll later need a flamethrower to close the gas hole - but therefore the weakest version is sufficient.
I also didn't buy the map for 45.000 credits and that way could heal me 15 more times (15 x 3.000).

But I've just read you can't use the bouncer weapon. That's certainly a disadvantage.

And what about that hate? The more you hate the game, the better you play it?

john4p · 12 July 2008, 23:26

The game got voted - so I gave my best.

I can be good at a game I dislike and vice versa. For example Counterstrike: I like that game, but suck at it.

Being good or bad at a game and liking it doesn't correlate.

mailman · 13 July 2008, 08:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by john4p

Thanks for the condolences.

Thank god I'm finally done with Alien Breed II. I'll now try to beat its predecessor, too.

Don't be so sure of your 1st place. I will give a try using rebounders (use with cautious). In the past I finished this game without much effort

john4p · 13 July 2008, 09:44

I'm never sure about anything in this competition. Not with you and TF around...

mailman · 13 July 2008, 10:16

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Originally Posted by john4p

I'm never sure about anything in this competition. Not with you and TF around...

Well, you can be sure... Once again I investigated the readme file to AB2 slave and noticed that ECS version has a problem with rebounders fixed (AGA version which I play most often has not for sure). I couldn't recall whever I checked it or not and gave it a try in hope I could beat you. I bought rebounders and after a while of shooting the game quitted. Like I wrote in some threads or in bug reports (I can't recall) it seems to me like this "flaw" hasn't been fixed or later fixes which has been implemented in the slave made it transparent or not working.

Back to TCD idea about buggy slaves thread. Once I started such thread but pretty soon it ended in closing it (here). Among others I mentioned Goal, Robocop 3, Lotus 3. It was a thread about slaves which were abandoned (mostly Mr. Larmer's work) and it would be nice if someone could improve or fix them (writing bug reports in this case is not much help). After a discussion pretty soon it became a flamewar and some people were throwing stones at me... Pretty sad but true...

TCD · 13 July 2008, 10:27

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Originally Posted by mailman

Back to TCD idea about buggy slaves thread. Once I started such thread but pretty soon it ended in closing it (I can't find it right now and I presume it was deleted). Among others I mentioned Goal, Robocop 3. It was a thread about slaves which were abandoned (Mr. Larmer's work) and it would nice if someone could improve them (writing bug reports in this case is not much help). After a discussion pretty soon it became a flamewar and some people were throwing stones at me... Pretty sad but true...

That's pretty bad. I'm not so much into WHDLoad since I only own a A500 without a HD, but I know it's pretty much the one way to play the old games on newer Amiga hardware. So if any slaves have problems with a certain hardware config that should be mentioned somewhere, but when the old thread turned into a flamewar I guess that is not possible

It's just a pity that the competition is not completly even between emulation and real hardware because of buggy slaves.
Anyway I wish you really the best of luck mailman

Graham Humphrey · 13 July 2008, 11:26

Some of the responses in mailman's thread were pathetic, quite frankly...

It's a shame the slave is bugged, it doesn't help competitions like this (anyone remember the Project-X round last year? That was pretty bad).

CHook/OTT · 18 July 2008, 20:43

Another attempt and not much better really

238,685

Graham Humphrey · 19 July 2008, 10:57

Last day now...

Come on people, if some of you have played these games but haven't submitted a score you may as well as you'll almost certainly score some points in the league, given the lack of entries

Graham Humphrey · 20 July 2008, 01:03

And this one's done too...

18 July 2008, 20:43	#57
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12 July 2008, 16:23	#42
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	I agree. Decent games, certainly, and I do enjoy them but I won't be going back to them that often. Definitely no classics.

12 July 2008, 16:27	#43
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,942	Have you tried the two player mode with your brother Graham? It really doubles the fun playing the game Last weekend I told a friend of mine who visited me we were doing this competition and then we have played a round with two players. Then I knew again why I liked that game so much back in the days (tm)

12 July 2008, 16:34	#44
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	No I haven't actually. Might try it later on.

12 July 2008, 17:40	#45
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,942	Phew, even if AB2 is not as hard as the first part, it's surely demanding Fighting back these alien hordes becomes quite stressy after a while 310.425 @Graham I hope you will like the two player mode

12 July 2008, 23:26	#51
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	The game got voted - so I gave my best. I can be good at a game I dislike and vice versa. For example Counterstrike: I like that game, but suck at it. Being good or bad at a game and liking it doesn't correlate.

13 July 2008, 09:44	#53
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	I'm never sure about anything in this competition. Not with you and TF around...

13 July 2008, 11:26	#56
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Some of the responses in mailman's thread were pathetic, quite frankly... It's a shame the slave is bugged, it doesn't help competitions like this (anyone remember the Project-X round last year? That was pretty bad).

19 July 2008, 10:57	#58
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Last day now... Come on people, if some of you have played these games but haven't submitted a score you may as well as you'll almost certainly score some points in the league, given the lack of entries

20 July 2008, 01:03	#59
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