New legal keyfile website launched "Keyring" - Page 3

gizmomelb · 11 January 2006, 13:28

does anyone know if AmiTCP can still be registered, or should that be added to the keyring site as well?

whiteb · 12 January 2006, 10:32

When you have Miami in the archives, you DONT want Amitcp.............

woody57 · 12 January 2006, 10:41

We know that Whiteb but its about chasing up ALL software not just the most popular

whiteb · 12 January 2006, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody57

We know that Whiteb but its about chasing up ALL software not just the most popular

Its also, about, if the ability to purchase Amitcp still is available, and if the authors find out about the keyring site, would they approve of, disapprove of or take the site owner to court.

woody57 · 12 January 2006, 12:23

Which is why e-mails and all last contact addresses are chased up BEFORE any file is added to the site.

Sure the fact is we would ALL like to have a flourishing Amiga software scene where it was possible to register the very programmes we need to use for net or other extended applications & where ever possible the links are re-established to ensure the owner or author can STILL recieve payment .

This is the classic dilema of having to regularly check to see if some NEW company has purchased development rights or has decided to play the "litigation fishing game " without knowing what they just bought .

So by NO means is this a closed or dead archive site ...thats why its important to LISTEN to any new developments or alternatively double check as is often the case with gaming software to see if any retro retailers have re-introduced distribution.

A crap shoot it may be, but the alternative is a LOT of long term un-useable software & a Amiga community feeling totally abandoned ......anyway if the shit hits the fan I will just produce my death certificate .......they can't sue a corpse ....well not yet anyway

woody57 · 12 January 2006, 12:31

Now to answer the AmiTCP question specifically there is a long term problem as the Vapourware collection of pieces of individual software have been broken up across a number of international registery addresses .

This in itself makes a difficult case as it has too many loose ends that has had Lopos2000 pulling his hair out with each new twist & turn so it is unlikley that these will be added in the near future...UNLESS there is an UNEQUIVICAL donnation of ALL these apps to the Amiga community.

I can't see it eiether .....but maybe thats because xmas has aleady gone

whiteb · 13 January 2006, 04:19

http://www.netlab.hut.fi/u/puhuri/home.shtml

one of the main coders......, maybe he might be able to provide some answers.

woody57 · 13 January 2006, 06:45

Cheers Whiteb

I will chase this up and update any changes that are of importance

ant512 · 16 January 2006, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteb

When you have Miami in the archives, you DONT want Amitcp.............

AmiTCP is faster and has a smaller memory footprint than Miami. Hell of a lot harder to set up, though.

whiteb · 16 January 2006, 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant512

AmiTCP is faster and has a smaller memory footprint than Miami. Hell of a lot harder to set up, though.

Thats an understatement

But in all seriousness, Can Miami be scripted to automatically activate TCP and log into a network without user intervention ?... can AmiTCP ? Its been a while since i used it last.

gizmomelb · 16 January 2006, 08:29

I had no end of trouble with AmiTCP v3.something demo. But once I tried AmiTCP v4.0 demo (from Aminet) it was pretty smooth sailing. I found some extra help from a user on this forum and AmiTCP just worked for me with no real issues.

patrik · 16 January 2006, 09:24

@whiteb:

To start AmiTCP you type startnet. That line is often found at the AmiTCP portion of your S:User-Startup.

But if you feel like it, you can ofcourse do the stuff the startnet script does for you manually

.

r6stu · 05 September 2008, 17:33

Hi, where has the site gone?

lopos2000 · 05 September 2008, 17:38

Change my broadband provider. I'll up it at a later date and post the new address.

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11 January 2006, 13:28	#41
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	does anyone know if AmiTCP can still be registered, or should that be added to the keyring site as well?

12 January 2006, 10:32	#42
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	When you have Miami in the archives, you DONT want Amitcp.............

12 January 2006, 10:41	#43
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	We know that Whiteb but its about chasing up ALL software not just the most popular

12 January 2006, 12:23	#45
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Which is why e-mails and all last contact addresses are chased up BEFORE any file is added to the site. Sure the fact is we would ALL like to have a flourishing Amiga software scene where it was possible to register the very programmes we need to use for net or other extended applications & where ever possible the links are re-established to ensure the owner or author can STILL recieve payment . This is the classic dilema of having to regularly check to see if some NEW company has purchased development rights or has decided to play the "litigation fishing game " without knowing what they just bought . So by NO means is this a closed or dead archive site ...thats why its important to LISTEN to any new developments or alternatively double check as is often the case with gaming software to see if any retro retailers have re-introduced distribution. A crap shoot it may be, but the alternative is a LOT of long term un-useable software & a Amiga community feeling totally abandoned ......anyway if the shit hits the fan I will just produce my death certificate .......they can't sue a corpse ....well not yet anyway

12 January 2006, 12:31	#46
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Now to answer the AmiTCP question specifically there is a long term problem as the Vapourware collection of pieces of individual software have been broken up across a number of international registery addresses . This in itself makes a difficult case as it has too many loose ends that has had Lopos2000 pulling his hair out with each new twist & turn so it is unlikley that these will be added in the near future...UNLESS there is an UNEQUIVICAL donnation of ALL these apps to the Amiga community. I can't see it eiether .....but maybe thats because xmas has aleady gone

13 January 2006, 04:19	#47
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	http://www.netlab.hut.fi/u/puhuri/home.shtml one of the main coders......, maybe he might be able to provide some answers.

13 January 2006, 06:45	#48
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Cheers Whiteb I will chase this up and update any changes that are of importance

16 January 2006, 08:29	#51
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	I had no end of trouble with AmiTCP v3.something demo. But once I tried AmiTCP v4.0 demo (from Aminet) it was pretty smooth sailing. I found some extra help from a user on this forum and AmiTCP just worked for me with no real issues.

16 January 2006, 09:24	#52
patrik Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Umeå Age: 44 Posts: 939	@whiteb: To start AmiTCP you type startnet. That line is often found at the AmiTCP portion of your S:User-Startup. But if you feel like it, you can ofcourse do the stuff the startnet script does for you manually .

05 September 2008, 17:33	#53
r6stu Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Age: 44 Posts: 112	Hi, where has the site gone?

05 September 2008, 17:38	#54
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	Change my broadband provider. I'll up it at a later date and post the new address.

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