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Numbers floating around on internet (for 100000) are:
50 minutes on an 25 MHz 68030 30 minutes on a 25 MHz 68040 15 minutes on a 50 MHz 68060 9 minutes on a 150 MHz 603e (Prototype board) 4.5 minutes on a 200 MHz 604e And doing this on the Sonnet is 1.5 minutes. But it's still all academic. |
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It's nice on synthetic benchmarks but won't be just as fast in real usage. On the other hand it still just might be faster than any PPC accelerator Amiga ever had. BTW the same project just might open the door for even more PPC WOS-compatible expansions on more or less exotic CPUs (I myself have several MPC8245-266 MCUs for anyone interested, BGA though).
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Cybermand now also working on Sonnet. Completely blows away 68060:
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This is some pretty cool Hackery.
It says a lot that Elbox never released this (even as a WarpOS/PowerUP only solution) while you guys seem to be doing fine :-) |
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I imagine that the PCI libraries are in a lot better state than they were a few years ago?
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The current state of PCI libraries is laughable at best. Special hacks are currently necessary for sonnet.library to function properly.
See this issue on GitHub for explanation on how this impacts our development... |
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Damn, you guys are even working on a pci.library reimplementation?
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At this moment I wouldn't recommend anyone getting anything yet
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Quote:
The problem (as usual in such hobby projects) is lack of necessary time. Although Hedeon is still making steady progress with WarpOS reimplementation! |
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How complex in itself is WarpOS anyway? Seeing as there is almost no I/O i kinda expect it to be relatively simple, but thats always a dangerous assumption (-:
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It is surprisingly complex, at this point sonnet.library is around 150kB of hand-crafted 68k and PPC assembly (and it's still nowhere near complete yet). Think of all necessary 68k-PPC synchronisation routines, message passing functions, scheduler etc.
API is quite well explained in documentation of original WarpOS, check it out. |
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Oh, interesting!
I grabbed the WarpUP 41 package from H&P's website (of which i was suprised its still up!) and it seems to include full documentation. Something to read for over the boring work train commute :-) |
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Wow, this is unbelievable progress guys! Nice project, please keep it up, this would be great if you achieve it working like PowerPCs cooperation like it is now on our Blizzards and Cyberstorms under WarpOS.
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Sorry for the shakes in the movie linked below, but here is where the software is standing at the moment (well, actually a week ago):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...etInAction.mp4 Primary focus is now to get a debugger going. |
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I've re-uploaded to YT. For me it is unplayable from Dropbox (too slow).
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Fantastic stuff
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This is awesome stuff.
What would happened if as Warpos.guide tells: Quote:
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I could ask Sam Jordan :-P
Anyway: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...S3s%5B51-75%5D The fabled emul68k.library Last edited by Hedeon; 24 March 2015 at 14:26. Reason: typo |
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