Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 255

DarrenHD · 18 May 2022, 16:48

@All,

What are you guys using to stream internet radio ? AmigaAMP 2.25 doesn't support streaming and AmigaAmp 3.x doesn't work so well with the Sonnet. Looking for a PPC solution

Hedeon · 18 May 2022, 20:02

The engine will be reinstated in a next version of AmigaAmp3. Or so I heard and read on A1k.

grelbfarlk · 19 May 2022, 03:29

It still works in version 2.25. I just did a quick test of it. Grab an M3U from say: https://www.internet-radio.com/stations/50s/
128k streams generally work best as I recall.

DarrenHD · 19 May 2022, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

It still works in version 2.25. I just did a quick test of it. Grab an M3U from say: https://www.internet-radio.com/stations/50s/
128k streams generally work best as I recall.

Thanks, I thought it didn't work. I will give it a try.

It would be nice to have the engine back though...hopefully this happens soon.

Hedeon, did you ever figure out why AmigaAmp 3.x doesn't work that well?

Hedeon · 19 May 2022, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenHD

Thanks, I thought it didn't work. I will give it a try.

It would be nice to have the engine back though...hopefully this happens soon.

Hedeon, did you ever figure out why AmigaAmp 3.x doesn't work that well?

Probably because it is not a PPC program. For 2.25 I had to patch the powerpc library to recognize it as such. The PPC parts are externally loaded (either the engine or mpeg library) but the data is probably loaded by the main program itself, so it goes into 68K memory. Same for the external PPC visualizations.

DarrenHD · 19 May 2022, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Probably because it is not a PPC program. For 2.25 I had to patch the powerpc library to recognize it as such. The PPC parts are externally loaded (either the engine or mpeg library) but the data is probably loaded by the main program itself, so it goes into 68K memory. Same for the external PPC visualizations.

Ahh ok. Makes sense.

DarrenHD · 22 May 2022, 18:27

By the way, I just tried WarpAMP from Aminet. It seems to play back mp3's using the PPC with much less stuttering when you are doing other things. I don't think it supports streaming, sadly

But for just playing back MP3's it seems to work better than AmigaAMP 2.25.

grelbfarlk · 23 May 2022, 03:16

Yeah, that Playmus player I posted a while back used some very small percentage of CPU time for playing OGGs and other stuff. It would be sure nice for a full PPC player of various things, that had a GUI and visualizer and all that.
I want to say Frogger and AMP2 play MP3's too.
FFPlay from FFMPEG was nearly working at some point, that includes some form of visualization/waveforms and I'm pretty sure could handle streams too. I think Wrangler should have that ready next week after he releases the WarpUP version of AHI.

DarrenHD · 24 May 2022, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Yeah, that Playmus player I posted a while back used some very small percentage of CPU time for playing OGGs and other stuff. It would be sure nice for a full PPC player of various things, that had a GUI and visualizer and all that.
I want to say Frogger and AMP2 play MP3's too.
FFPlay from FFMPEG was nearly working at some point, that includes some form of visualization/waveforms and I'm pretty sure could handle streams too. I think Wrangler should have that ready next week after he releases the WarpUP version of AHI.

WarpUP version of AHI? I haven't heard of this...is there a thread on it I missed?

Wrangler · 24 May 2022, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenHD

WarpUP version of AHI? I haven't heard of this...is there a thread on it I missed?

Welcome to Gribble's sense of humour!

Wrangler is having a holiday from programming the PPC and the DSP!

grelbfarlk · 25 May 2022, 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler

Wrangler is having a holiday from programming the PPC and the DSP!

Yes, after the vacation is over obviously.

BULI · 29 June 2022, 10:14

BTW
Any chance to port of this for AMIGA WOS?
https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=1766152

Hedeon · 29 June 2022, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by BULI

BTW
Any chance to port of this for AMIGA WOS?
https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=1766152

No. It uses SDL2.

More chance with the port from Arti for OS3.

BULI · 29 June 2022, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

More chance with the port from Arti for OS3.

Would be graet

grelbfarlk · 11 July 2022, 04:26

Did anything ever happen with that AMC card? We have to have the lasterliest PPC card to be the Dagor Dagorath. If that's not going to work we can just buy some of those QorIQ boards.

On another topic, OpenTTD, An open source simulator based on the classic game Transport Tycoon Deluxe looks like it would be reasonably easy to port to WarpOS. Yes the main support is SDL2, but it looks like it still supports SDL 1.x.

Hedeon · 11 July 2022, 09:15

The Carrier card was PCIe x2 (or was it 4x..) while the PCI-PCIe adapter is PCIe x1. I haven't found a PCIe x1 carrier yet. I know they exist....

Put it in the freezer next to the other projects for now.

grelbfarlk · 12 July 2022, 04:56

You can cut a PCIe 1X slot to fit a PCIe 4X card into it. In theory it should work like leaving a 64bit PCI card's extra contacts hanging off of a PCI 32bit slot.
[ Show youtube player ]
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...x-slot.407263/

Hedeon · 12 July 2022, 09:07

Nice, didn't know

jbenam · 12 July 2022, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

You can cut a PCIe 1X slot to fit a PCIe 4X card into it. In theory it should work like leaving a 64bit PCI card's extra contacts hanging off of a PCI 32bit slot.
[ Show youtube player ]
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...x-slot.407263/

Done it a bunch of times. Works perfectly and quite easy to do as well. Just be careful to not bend any pins when cutting.

Hedeon · 12 July 2022, 09:46

Looking a bit further, there are 1x to 4x riser cards. So I ordered one with a bit of cable as the AMC carrier is like 20x30 cm so now I can place it beside the Amiga. The carrier can act even as a stand-alone computer.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/10050...yAdapt=glo2nld

19 May 2022, 03:29	#5083
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,975	It still works in version 2.25. I just did a quick test of it. Grab an M3U from say: https://www.internet-radio.com/stations/50s/ 128k streams generally work best as I recall. Last edited by grelbfarlk; 19 May 2022 at 03:41.

11 July 2022, 04:26	#5095
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,975	Did anything ever happen with that AMC card? We have to have the lasterliest PPC card to be the Dagor Dagorath. If that's not going to work we can just buy some of those QorIQ boards. On another topic, OpenTTD, An open source simulator based on the classic game Transport Tycoon Deluxe looks like it would be reasonably easy to port to WarpOS. Yes the main support is SDL2, but it looks like it still supports SDL 1.x. Last edited by grelbfarlk; 11 July 2022 at 04:58.

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18 May 2022, 16:48	#5081
DarrenHD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London / Canada Posts: 781	@All, What are you guys using to stream internet radio ? AmigaAMP 2.25 doesn't support streaming and AmigaAmp 3.x doesn't work so well with the Sonnet. Looking for a PPC solution

18 May 2022, 20:02	#5082
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,054	The engine will be reinstated in a next version of AmigaAmp3. Or so I heard and read on A1k.

22 May 2022, 18:27	#5087
DarrenHD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London / Canada Posts: 781	By the way, I just tried WarpAMP from Aminet. It seems to play back mp3's using the PPC with much less stuttering when you are doing other things. I don't think it supports streaming, sadly But for just playing back MP3's it seems to work better than AmigaAMP 2.25.

23 May 2022, 03:16	#5088
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,975	Yeah, that Playmus player I posted a while back used some very small percentage of CPU time for playing OGGs and other stuff. It would be sure nice for a full PPC player of various things, that had a GUI and visualizer and all that. I want to say Frogger and AMP2 play MP3's too. FFPlay from FFMPEG was nearly working at some point, that includes some form of visualization/waveforms and I'm pretty sure could handle streams too. I think Wrangler should have that ready next week after he releases the WarpUP version of AHI.

29 June 2022, 10:14	#5092
BULI Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Rzeszów Posts: 406	BTW Any chance to port of this for AMIGA WOS? https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=1766152

11 July 2022, 09:15	#5096
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,054	The Carrier card was PCIe x2 (or was it 4x..) while the PCI-PCIe adapter is PCIe x1. I haven't found a PCIe x1 carrier yet. I know they exist.... Put it in the freezer next to the other projects for now.

12 July 2022, 04:56	#5097
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,975	You can cut a PCIe 1X slot to fit a PCIe 4X card into it. In theory it should work like leaving a 64bit PCI card's extra contacts hanging off of a PCI 32bit slot. [ Show youtube player ] https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...x-slot.407263/

12 July 2022, 09:07	#5098
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,054	Nice, didn't know

12 July 2022, 09:46	#5100
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,054	Looking a bit further, there are 1x to 4x riser cards. So I ordered one with a bit of cable as the AMC carrier is like 20x30 cm so now I can place it beside the Amiga. The carrier can act even as a stand-alone computer. https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/10050...yAdapt=glo2nld

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