26 May 2023, 09:28 | #4141 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Figueira da Foz
Posts: 430
|
There's no problems when setting tooltypes and such?
|
26 May 2023, 09:33 | #4142 |
Paranoid Amigoid
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Athens/Greece
Age: 45
Posts: 1,978
|
The tooltypes etc from the original icons will be lost ofc.
But the way I do it is copy my DualPNG icon, dissect it into 2 PNG images (either with HexEdit or via PeterK's excellent script) then get the images to your PC and edit them, then where ready transfer them back to the Amiga and join them into an icon. Then you can use CopyIcon to replace the original icon to the new one, maintaining all icon info (tooltypes etc). |
26 May 2023, 10:38 | #4143 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
Quote:
Just read the supplied syntax from ImageConverter.doc and add some options in my script (like -w 48 -h 48) to the lines with the ImageConverter commands. Last edited by PeterK; 01 June 2023 at 19:50. |
|
26 May 2023, 11:10 | #4144 | |||
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
Quote:
And yes, ImageConverter still modifies the icon images a bit, because it can't get the original ARGB data from icon.library directly. My icon.library only updates the RGB data after merging the image and the background by using the alpha channel values. ImageConverter lets my library write the image twice: once to a white background and once to a black background, and then it recalculates the none supplied alpha values and RGB colors from the differences of these two images. The resulting ARGB data is quite good, but not exact for very low alpha values, because the fading with alpha is some sort of a lossy data processing, you are losing the fractions in the calculations, the colors can only be mixed in 256 steps for each RGB component, not perfectly. But usually, that little difference won't be visible for the user. Quote:
Quote:
|
|||
26 May 2023, 12:34 | #4145 | |||
Paranoid Amigoid
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Athens/Greece
Age: 45
Posts: 1,978
|
Quote:
Quote:
That did the trick... all good now Quote:
Thanks for everything |
|||
26 May 2023, 13:26 | #4146 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Brindisi (Italy)
Age: 70
Posts: 8,265
|
Quote:
The AROS and OS3 version were never distributed, you find the AROS version installed on AROS One and IcarOS, while the OS3 version you have to ask the developer ! |
|
26 May 2023, 17:14 | #4147 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
Carlo, I have an IconEditor v1.9 installed here on OS3 and just used it to check the separated alpha channel data and RGB images from the ImageConverter icon conversions. I don't know if it can be distributed, probably not without permission.
On OS4 I also have the old and the 2.0 version installed for tests, but I don't like these huge AISS image collections and these very large Hollywood addons. And I'm not an icon designer due to my lack of creativity and the missing ambition to do something useful with these nice tools. |
26 May 2023, 17:49 | #4148 |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Brindisi (Italy)
Age: 70
Posts: 8,265
|
If the developer doesn't distribute it, it means that for some reason he doesn't want to do it, he told me that on OS3 and AROS there was something missing, which I don't remember now, that didn't allow to create icons on OS4 style.
Then in the end even if the AROS and OS3 version can't create Os4 icons, that's fine with me anyway, I prefer DualPNG Icons, which among other things are the ones that work well everywhere. Regarding "AISS" in fact and a great package, which slowed down a lot the installation of AROS One, for this reason in the Folder "ToolbarImages" I only left the images that the AROS OS and Third Part Applications ulizzano, so only a few tens of images, some I also improved them graphically. Regarding the reaction of icons, I am not a creative person either, however, by dint of working with images, ideas and creativity come automatically. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 31 May 2023 at 22:17. |
27 May 2023, 13:34 | #4149 | |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Figueira da Foz
Posts: 430
|
Quote:
|
|
27 May 2023, 14:34 | #4150 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
Sorry, but I don't want to try out an installation on 3.0 or 3.1 now. It will probably not work, because in addition to IconEditor the required AISS and the Hollywood stuff have to support the old OS 3.0, too.
|
27 May 2023, 14:47 | #4151 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Figueira da Foz
Posts: 430
|
I asked because I got it from the author and it didn't worked, I guessed it was because I have a 3.1 build
|
27 May 2023, 15:33 | #4152 |
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Brindisi (Italy)
Age: 70
Posts: 8,265
|
Peter IconEditior works fine on OS 3.1, you just need to install the MUI libraries, Hollywood PlugIns and the required AISS images
Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 31 May 2023 at 22:17. |
27 May 2023, 22:17 | #4153 |
Paranoid Amigoid
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Athens/Greece
Age: 45
Posts: 1,978
|
Karlo is correct.
The latest version I got from Paul was compiled in Hollywood 9 and it's v2.0. Paul is a really kind guy that responds rather quicky. His version had issues with OS3.2.2 and P96 3.3.3 but that turned out to be an rtg.library bug which was fixed by a beta I got from Jens (and eventually will be released). |
28 May 2023, 14:14 | #4154 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
If I understand pixie correctly, he needs the IconEditor on OS 3.0, not 3.1. But many coders don't care for 3.0, since their development kit is for v40, v45 or v47 and then sets the minimum requirements to that version automatically, not checking whether v39 could also be sufficient.
mfilos, I've modified my script a bit now, so it can be launched from the tools menu or a drop box, but multi-selection of a bunch of icons is not supported. If the icon loading per menu fails you will see the "requestfile" again. It works for me with AppMenu. You have to ensure that the script file, ImageConverter and CopyIcon are in your PATH. Of course, every user can modify the script to adapt it to whatever he prefers, like using "Ram:" or a directory on the harddisk instead of "T:" for the temporary files. The icon loading with DropView also works in principle, but DropView still has a problem with the font loading for its GUI, the preferences window. It tries to load XHelvetica 11, but that fails with "Error 2" if that font was not already loaded by something else like the font preferences. I have to check whether this is a bug in DropView or maybe a problem with a certain diskfont.library version or something else on my system. Edit: Solution in another post below ... https://aminet.net/package/util/app/dropview Last edited by PeterK; 01 June 2023 at 19:52. |
28 May 2023, 14:43 | #4155 | |
Paranoid Amigoid
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Athens/Greece
Age: 45
Posts: 1,978
|
Quote:
I haven't tried Dropview but I wouldn't use it anywayz as I find ToolsMenu rather quick and easy for my taste. Thanks a lot! One thing that semi-annoyed me was the filename of exension in png images (image.png, image.png2). Tried altering the script but putting for example image1.png, image2.png doesn't work, so I just rename whenever I transfer the images to my PC (not biggie). That script definitelly saved a lot of time, plus qualitywise is better and iconsize more precise! Fantastic \o/ |
|
28 May 2023, 15:23 | #4156 | |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Figueira da Foz
Posts: 430
|
Quote:
Last edited by pixie; 28 May 2023 at 16:49. |
|
28 May 2023, 16:23 | #4157 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
Quote:
1.) Make sure that you have the "XHelvetica.font" size 11 installed (not just helvetica). There are different versions, also modified fonts, available on Aminet. I took the one from TinyMeter now. 2.) Optional, you could execute Sys:System/FixFonts after the font installation in Fonts:. 3.) Add the following line to your startup-sequence or user-startup: Code:
LoadResource >NIL: Fonts:XHelvetica/11 LOCK 4.) You can change the viewer program in the preferences from "MultiView" to "ConvertToPngIcon" as a CLI script. Save your preferences, and if you like rename DropView to "ConvertIconToPNG" or whatever you like. 5.) Make sure that the locations of ImageConverter and CopyIcon are in your PATH, so that these tools can be found by the script. |
|
28 May 2023, 16:41 | #4158 | |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
Quote:
If you want to know the dependencies of a program you can run SnoopDos or install the exe.datatype and then load that program file with MultiView. The exe.datatype shows all required libraries and other resources. And that could end in a chain reaction: the libraries may need other libraries and so on ... |
|
28 May 2023, 16:54 | #4159 | ||
Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Figueira da Foz
Posts: 430
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
28 May 2023, 18:32 | #4160 |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse
Posts: 3,385
|
I never had any demand for TrueType or Antialiased fonts, because my eyes are so bad already, that I can't see anything clear and sharp, so they are doing the job of antialiasing perfectly for free.
But there is also a very simple solution for Antialiased fonts, a patch written by Stephan Rupprecht. It just merges the text color with the background for the surrounding pixels. It works with any bitmap font already. aafont.lha: https://www.stephan-rupprecht.de https://www.stephan-rupprecht.de/downloads/aafont.rea If you don't like it, you could ask mfilos for his AfA_OS solution. He also just uses the TrueType font support, but don't has to active icon_lib.exe anymore. |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
ClassicWB Full and icon.library 46.4 | Retroplay | project.ClassicWB | 8 | 05 August 2018 13:57 |
WB library conflict/versions | Amiga1992 | support.Apps | 3 | 22 July 2010 18:47 |
PNG Icon to Color Icon Converter? | Leandro Jardim | request.Apps | 1 | 24 May 2010 04:39 |
What's the latest version of icon.library for OS3.9? | NovaCoder | support.Apps | 3 | 30 June 2009 15:43 |
Requesting icon.library v44+... | nikvest | request.Other | 2 | 16 September 2007 01:58 |
|
|