04 December 2012, 21:54 | #381 |
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Am i the only one to care about the ACA500 here?
I thought that this thread was called "New products for C64 and Amiga from Individual Computers" not just "New A600 accelerator from Individual Computers". So any release date or update of any kind? Will it be available for Christmas? |
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At least you are the following in the list. I still will have to wait for the year that a new fast Ata Controller will be on this thread.
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I mean an Individual Computers one.
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Without a CPU on the expansion, it wouldn't work at all as a standalone, and would force buyers to buy an ACA12XX. Now buyers get a small performance upgrade, are able to play a bunch of WHDloads, get boot'able storage... I can't quite honestly see what your gripes are about.
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It's far away from vaporware. Sometimes i can't understand what people think they could get for 79,90€ these days. What is it? Pure bitterness about too little Fast Ram?
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I dont have an issue with him making an adapter that allows a500 owners to use his aca12xx cards, I have an issue with him thinking the current aca500 design is good enuf as a standalone board when a600 owners have a much better and affordable single board option. *and the onboard 68k is also disabled so now you'll have two useless 68k's in your a500. Last edited by dJOS; 05 December 2012 at 02:15. |
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My criticisms (even if they come across a bit gruff) are meant to be constructive, im not just saying "xyz is a crap idea", im providing a rationale and suggestions for improvement. Currently you can get an 8mb autoconfig ram board from Kipper2k for $49 and an IDE68k board from MKL for $60 (I have both) and the aca500 has been estimated to cost the same as these two combined - my point is that the aca500 should ditch the cpu and ram then it would cost maybe $50 and then adding and aca12xx would make sense as an upgrade for a500 owners. |
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It's still in development and he is open for suggestions. But i think you are not the target for this lowcost card. Just like Mr B said. It is meant for some A500 users who wanted to use modern IDE stuff and maybe play a few WHDLoad classics. Not a big power upgrade like other turbocards.
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Kipper provides excellent after sales support and would prolly not be impressed by suggestions to the contrary.
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That's not the point. With a proper registered hardware design/selling company you have restrictions and several other costs. Be more realistic.
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But the bottom line is: Either buy it, or don't. If your not pleased with his design, get a competing product thats more to your liking, it's not like your out of options. |
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Im not going to get into an argument, as I said that was my 2c but I'll sum up for those that are having trouble keeping up:
1/ Build a cheap adapter without redundant HW, this will mean more sales of of higher end (usually more profitable) aca12xx's because the price barrier to entry is lower for a500 owners 2/ build a decent aca620 style accelerator board (obviously with IDE included) for the a500 with 8mb ram and an 020 (that will be well worth owning for many of us) FWIW, I really like the idea of the aca12xx adaptor board for a500's, I just dont like the idea of including wasted ram and cpu because it only puts up the price and makes for a mediocre standalone accelerator. Quote:
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In addition to that, I'd have to make that 020 accelerator compatible with external mass-storage. Oh, and don't forget that there's no Gayle inside the A500, so the logic for 020 access to the CIA chips is a lot more complicated (E-Clock syncronization). I wonder how you'd fit that into the same size of logic as on the ACA620. If you can do that, I should hire you - you know where to find me on the net. I accept electronic job applications. Quote:
I haven't published pictures for a reason: There's another A500 accelerator in the works, and I don't want to give away all my ideas. There's a few very effective and solid mechanical solutions in the ACA500 that don't cost too much, and it's likely that they will make the majority of customers prefer my design over Zeus. I'd be stupid to publish pictures of the mechanical elements before I can ship quantities. Also, there's some features in the works that improve usability and ease of installation. After all, this product targets those who come *back* to the Amiga, not those who are already active on the forums and own a collection of Amigas. Jens |
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to my mind them are fair points dJOS
edit dam posted before reading jens post, going read it now indeed take these as comments/suggestions as until the product is released we have nothing to judge/evaluate great post Jens |
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The good thing is that ACAtune V1.7 works fine with the Rev.2 logic, because it automatically sees that $f0 is write-protected. So no need to panic here - it adds the right amount of memory and leaves out the $f0 ROM emulation area, which *was* usable as RAM in the previous version. Jens |
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