30 August 2007, 09:33 | #21 |
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Linux to me was, is, and probably always will be an impregnable fortress. I lack the knowledge required to set something like that up.
I am a dumbass gamer who hates Windows/Intel, but sticks with it regardless... I play hardcore games, I need Wintel. It's that simple. I have always followed the hardcore, bleeding edge games: platform is irrelevant. The Amiga OS always seemed to me elegant and exciting, even though I never even came close to tapping the power (too young and too dumb). I used Amiga for games and for art/animation. |
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30 August 2007, 12:55 | #24 |
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30 August 2007, 13:12 | #25 |
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My PC is well out of date, I haven't upgraded it in well over 5 years. It gets the job done. It's Windows because it gives me the most options.
I don't use Linux because I don't like it. I don't use a Mac because I can cheaply upgrade this PC whenever I like and not worry too much about it. I use my Amiga for games and for laughing at how bad my Dpaint art is from 15 years ago. |
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I think it is pretty cool that people still use their Amiga machines to do stuff and I can see the 'magic'. But don't pretend for a second it's better than even buying a Dell shitbox and stuffing Linux on it. That Dell shitbox is still light years ahead of your Amiga, and you're just kidding yourself by thinking otherwise. Oh, and don't pull the virus/spyware argument either. If you learnt to use Windows in the same detail you learnt to use AmigaOS you wouldn't have a problem. If you're not technically adept that's not the OSes fault. Quote:
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06 September 2007, 12:26 | #28 |
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P-J... are you sure that you're talking about Operating System, and not the underlying hardware?
Because the HARDWARE of even your shitty Dell, although not as intelligently working together as the Amiga's, is way faster, and THAT is the reason even Win95 can produce results we can't see on the amiga without some very very clever coding tricks. (and fooling the eyes into believing we're seeing the same things). The Operating System itself... there's only two things on the top of my head that the amiga lacks, and that's memory protection and virtual memory. AmigaOS3.9 does everything I need it todo, however, the hardware is too slow for me to run WoW on my A1200. THAT isn't the OS' fault. That has to do with outdated hardware. Please differensiate between the OS and the Hardware.... evne he worlds best OS won't run without anykind of hardware. AmigaOS3.9 is, IMO, just as good as OSX and WinXP. it just happens to be intelligeently coded to make the most out limited resources, while OSX and XP/Vista has a gazillion more resources and the coders doesn't need to worry, so they just throw out ideas and say "get a powerful enough CPU and you may be able to run it" |
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Why differentiate between the OS and hardware? The four or five major players run on the most popular and cheapest hardware in the world. AmigaOS is confined to expensive hobbyist hardware. Who cares if it's not the most efficient hardware in the world? It's still 3 or 4 times what you can buy for the same money in 'Amiga World'. If you use AmigaOS, you pay ridiculous money for the hardware, then for the OS and even then you can't do as much as an x86 + OS box can. At the end of the day, you're changing the argument to suit you. AmigaOS runs only on overly expensive hardware and you can't change that fact. Hence the argument can only ever be OS + hardware. Oh, and plus software too. And OS is made by it's software. Even if an OS is awesome, with a small footprint and technical amazing, without the software it is NOTHING. You can argue that an OS is better till you're blue in the face, but an OS on it's own is pretty useless. Last edited by P-J; 06 September 2007 at 12:50. |
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06 September 2007, 13:04 | #30 |
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You're right, I used to use Xubuntu Linux but all my favourite programmes were written for Windows, so I went back to using XP.
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If it is your intent to appear ignorant and thoroughly piss me off, you've succeeded. You do not understand the point of my posts, then say mindbogglingly stupid things like, "If you learnt to use Windows in the same detail you learnt to use AmigaOS you wouldn't have a problem. If you're not technically adept that's not the OSes fault." Where the fuck do you get that I'm not technically adept?? I am a professional ERP consultant/programmer/systems engineer. I have over 20,000 hours (probably much more) of work experience with the crap known as Windows. I started programming when you were still shitting your diapers. I started using Windows when you were learning the alphabet. Quote:
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This has only one way of going which is a flamewar. I'll bow out now because I think you've lost credibility through just being plain angry, but you've done a good job making a fool of yourself.
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Word things a little better, because at the end of the day you "know" you can discuss "better". And i "do" get Mr_A500's point, since all he is trying to say is that the Amiga did things that he considers crucially better, and i for one after using multiple OS's am inclined to agree with. Im not saying that the Amiga can do everything Linux and Windows can ( due to all you have said ) but that still doesnt escape the fact that it was still a fine OS that was to me as well as Mr_A500 superior in so many other ways, but thats not saying its "now" the best, because NO operating system is THE Best, its just matter of how much shit you have to put up with, with has nothing to do with hardware and software support at the core of it. Yes there is no software support for OS4, yes there is no hardware support, yes there are no games and all this places it in the shit, we all agree on that, but thats not his point, so the sooner we get around that the better. Cheers Last edited by blade002; 06 September 2007 at 15:45. |
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Thankyou for the compliment. I too found you open to disussion, and that is important, so i think in this discussion or this thread i initially created that there are 2 sides to this argument.
1: Your argument that the Amiga OS is dead in the water due to no support in any which way, NONE!. 2: And Mr_A500 and my self's argument that its not about the support, but completely to do with how well the Amiga OS ran and does run in many areas compared to Modern OS's. These are 2 separate issues, that can viewed as conjoined if you choose to view it in that way, but seen separately there are merits for both points. ( Oh your post disappeared PJ ???? ) .... thats why i couldnt quote it !.. hehehehe... you bitch ) |
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27 September 2007, 00:34 | #37 |
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I hear you blade002, Amiga still kicks ass in more than one way after all these years.
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27 September 2007, 00:59 | #38 |
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Is anyone running Linux on their BPPC/CSPPC?
If so please tell us how... |
27 September 2007, 08:56 | #39 |
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You know, this "amiga advantage" shit is about as useful as arguing:
"Hey, all you had to do was hand crank those model T's. They had great reliabilty, and man were they cheap. Nowadays, these computer chipped, airflow valve turbo fuel injection blah blah blah could use a rumble seat blah blah..." Yeah, so what? |
27 September 2007, 09:48 | #40 |
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Fred you are right of course, but we dont give a shite, we are blinkered retro looking Amiga fan boys!!
Your first girlfriend may well be a crumbly 55 year old 300lb granny of 4, but hey dont you still have "da memories"? |
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