Trace Machine to sell on ebay - Page 2

mr.vince · 23 June 2009, 16:46

Well then... still copying? Does not seem to be fast.

mr.vince · 24 June 2009, 10:02

Holy cow! Stilly copying?

dlfrsilver · 24 June 2009, 11:00

was sick yesterday, but made the test today. Well it appears that the trace machine
3.5" drive is dead. I must check if another drive could do the trick.

mr.vince · 24 June 2009, 17:19

Uh oh... Hopefuly only the drive is dead... good luck finding a replacement. Does the manual state what kind of drive you should build in?

jmmijo · 24 June 2009, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

Uh oh... Hopefuly only the drive is dead... good luck finding a replacement. Does the manual state what kind of drive you should build in?

I remember using one of these old machines back in the day and I seem to recall it was a modified Sony Floppy Disk Drive, I can't recall which model but it matched some of the ones that were used in many of the external Amiga Drives, I think an MPF something or other....

Good luck in getting this machine going again

dlfrsilver · 24 June 2009, 18:28

Yes it's a PC sony drive that i have inside

I have some spared Sony MFP-XXX drives hehehe, so well, let's see how it behaves !

The controler/loader indicates me that the DRIVE FAILS. There is 3 buttons on it, one called 1) EXPLAIN and 2) YES and 3) NO

The drive is not mechanicaly OK

it doesn't react when i launch the tracer).

jmmijo · 24 June 2009, 18:55

Nice to know I remembered something about that machine from days of yore

If I remember correctly, the drive just has it's front faceplate removed so the loader mechanism can feed diskettes properly.

I think it was also mounted on a guide plate so the drive can be removed for replacement.

My guess is that the drive is worn out but there is no way to know for sure without replacing it and testing further.

I would also suggest checking out any PALS/GALS and firmware EPROMS too, carefully remove any that are in DIP Sockets and check the pins for corosion, clean if neccessary and reinstall said chips back into their sockets.

Of course do this with the power cord unplugged...

dlfrsilver · 25 June 2009, 06:11

the drive is not moving mecanically. No reaction

And you're right about what you said

it's exactly that

!

mr.vince · 25 June 2009, 15:24

Ok, does the drive you removed from the machine show a definitive model number?

dlfrsilver · 25 June 2009, 21:49

yes ^^ !

mr.vince · 29 June 2009, 13:19

so any luck yet?

mr.vince · 04 July 2009, 11:31

Denis?

mr.vince · 17 July 2009, 17:24

...seems he got sucked into the machine... man...

dlfrsilver · 17 July 2009, 17:43

i have been quite busy these days

i leave in holidays for 1 week tomorrow, and i'll be
back on sunday 26 of july.

i'll post then here

mr.vince · 17 July 2009, 20:44

ahhhh. good to know the trace's genie did not trap you for too long. so have a nice holiday then...

breech · 28 August 2010, 02:10

I am interested to see what you have managed to duplicate with this

dlfrsilver · 28 August 2010, 10:24

The disk drive is dead

breech · 28 August 2010, 14:35

oh right, you never found a replacement huh. whats the exact model? maybe someone here has one or knows where to get one from.

mr.vince · 30 August 2010, 11:59

Did they actually use special drives? I'd say they used standard drives, maybe modded them, but can't see what they'd want to mod on a 3.5" drive...

Loedown · 31 August 2010, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

Did they actually use special drives? I'd say they used standard drives, maybe modded them, but can't see what they'd want to mod on a 3.5" drive...

Synth manufacturers did much the same with their designs, to make things 'proprietry' so you would be forced to pay their excessive charges for a new drive.

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23 June 2009, 16:46	#21
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Well then... still copying? Does not seem to be fast.

24 June 2009, 10:02	#22
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Holy cow! Stilly copying?

24 June 2009, 11:00	#23
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,512	was sick yesterday, but made the test today. Well it appears that the trace machine 3.5" drive is dead. I must check if another drive could do the trick.

24 June 2009, 17:19	#24
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Uh oh... Hopefuly only the drive is dead... good luck finding a replacement. Does the manual state what kind of drive you should build in?

24 June 2009, 18:28	#26
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,512	Yes it's a PC sony drive that i have inside I have some spared Sony MFP-XXX drives hehehe, so well, let's see how it behaves ! The controler/loader indicates me that the DRIVE FAILS. There is 3 buttons on it, one called 1) EXPLAIN and 2) YES and 3) NO The drive is not mechanicaly OK it doesn't react when i launch the tracer).

24 June 2009, 18:55	#27
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	Nice to know I remembered something about that machine from days of yore If I remember correctly, the drive just has it's front faceplate removed so the loader mechanism can feed diskettes properly. I think it was also mounted on a guide plate so the drive can be removed for replacement. My guess is that the drive is worn out but there is no way to know for sure without replacing it and testing further. I would also suggest checking out any PALS/GALS and firmware EPROMS too, carefully remove any that are in DIP Sockets and check the pins for corosion, clean if neccessary and reinstall said chips back into their sockets. Of course do this with the power cord unplugged...

25 June 2009, 06:11	#28
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,512	the drive is not moving mecanically. No reaction And you're right about what you said it's exactly that !

25 June 2009, 15:24	#29
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Ok, does the drive you removed from the machine show a definitive model number?

25 June 2009, 21:49	#30
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,512	yes ^^ !

29 June 2009, 13:19	#31
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	so any luck yet?

04 July 2009, 11:31	#32
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Denis?

17 July 2009, 17:24	#33
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	...seems he got sucked into the machine... man...

17 July 2009, 17:43	#34
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,512	i have been quite busy these days i leave in holidays for 1 week tomorrow, and i'll be back on sunday 26 of july. i'll post then here

17 July 2009, 20:44	#35
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	ahhhh. good to know the trace's genie did not trap you for too long. so have a nice holiday then...

28 August 2010, 02:10	#36
breech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Syd Posts: 184	I am interested to see what you have managed to duplicate with this

28 August 2010, 10:24	#37
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,512	The disk drive is dead

28 August 2010, 14:35	#38
breech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Syd Posts: 184	oh right, you never found a replacement huh. whats the exact model? maybe someone here has one or knows where to get one from.

30 August 2010, 11:59	#39
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Did they actually use special drives? I'd say they used standard drives, maybe modded them, but can't see what they'd want to mod on a 3.5" drive...

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