Can AmiMasterGear, etc run on A4000? - Page 2

CU_AMiGA · 29 March 2007, 18:42

Any updates?! Is there a way to disable CSMK3 FAST RAM? (like viddi said earlier)

adolescent · 29 March 2007, 20:54

From the docs:

Quote:

Key "m" pressed during booting disables the memory

Never tried it, because I don't have any other Fast RAM.

viddi · 29 March 2007, 21:33

Sorry, no updates so far . I´ll try a pure 3.1 workbench and check it out again.

CU_AMiGA · 30 March 2007, 00:17

@viddi

yes please provide the results when you do!

viddi · 30 March 2007, 09:03

Of course

I´ll do it on Sat. or Sun.!

viddi · 31 March 2007, 10:09

Okay, I used WB 3.1 now and it works with 60/60 fps.

I set emulation speed to fast and get 100% of speed. Strange.
But sometimes it "gets a kick" and runs faster for half a second or so.

I tried to change V.Lines settings but it seems to have no effect.

We need a programmer who can add a "force 60fps speed" option.
What do you think?

CU_AMiGA · 31 March 2007, 15:26

yeah. there is a bit on amiga.org where someone says that there should be an extra line in the program listing (he says it runs twice the speed or something). i dunno who can do this though, half the comments are in spanish lol i will try the emu out again myself later. i couldn't seem to disable the ram on my csmk3 for some reason.

viddi · 31 March 2007, 15:28

I disabled all of the fastmem just by clicking the nofastram icon

But as I said before, AMG will be damn slow then.

CU_AMiGA · 31 March 2007, 15:52

@viddi

i think that works with a4000 mobo fast mem.

can anyone here on eab modify the amimastergear coding?

viddi · 31 March 2007, 16:18

I see.

Yes please, can someone take a look at the AMG-code?

Retro1234 · 01 April 2007, 15:35

Do you think a WHDload slave For AmiMasterGear or AmiGameBoy could make it more stable?

viddi · 01 April 2007, 16:01

Mhh...might be.

Is the WHDload slave able to emulate e.g. an Amiga with 030/50mhz?
This is the given config for 100% emulation speed.

alexh · 01 April 2007, 17:51

Or maybe... just maybe... you could run another emulator on your PC??

No-one has just an Amiga as their main system, emulating on the Amiga seems slightly less than pointless these days. As do Amiga ports of games that are available on other formats (Doom, Quake etc.)

viddi · 01 April 2007, 18:04

Well alexh, AmiMasterGear is a fantastic piece of software.

I think it´s a great feeling to play Sonic on an Amiga instead of using just another emulator on a boring PC.

CU_AMiGA · 01 April 2007, 22:16

i agree with viddi, far more entertaining than emulating on a pc. i think whd'ing this thing is impossible. the amiemulators "bangs" the hardware. so amimastergear and amimsx is impossible under whd i think.

alexh · 01 April 2007, 23:00

Quote:

I think it´s a great feeling to play Sonic on an Amiga instead of using just another emulator on a boring PC.

You really are all freaks. You probably cannot play games at all and never get off level one of anything do you?

I think you're forgetting that it's the GAME that is the important bit, not the how where and why you play it. If the PC emulator is a more faithful representation of the real thing (which it will be) and is easier to use (which it will be) then you should use that.

Same goes for Arcade conversions... why today play the Amiga port (or any home computer platform port) of an arcade game when you can play the real think in MaMe or other such arcade emulator? (Exclude ports with special levels etc. not in the original)

If half the fun for you is the actual "emulation" rather than the games (and you're not emulator programmers) then you are sad gits

CU_AMiGA · 01 April 2007, 23:11

@alexh

dude, you are the pantomime villian of eab!

Oh yeah btw Master System emulator runs too fast on PC too - now get out of that one perry!!!!

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29 March 2007, 18:42	#21
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	Any updates?! Is there a way to disable CSMK3 FAST RAM? (like viddi said earlier)

29 March 2007, 21:33	#23
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	Sorry, no updates so far . I´ll try a pure 3.1 workbench and check it out again.

30 March 2007, 00:17	#24
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	@viddi yes please provide the results when you do!

30 March 2007, 09:03	#25
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	Of course I´ll do it on Sat. or Sun.!

31 March 2007, 10:09	#26
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	Okay, I used WB 3.1 now and it works with 60/60 fps. I set emulation speed to fast and get 100% of speed. Strange. But sometimes it "gets a kick" and runs faster for half a second or so. I tried to change V.Lines settings but it seems to have no effect. We need a programmer who can add a "force 60fps speed" option. What do you think?

31 March 2007, 15:26	#27
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	yeah. there is a bit on amiga.org where someone says that there should be an extra line in the program listing (he says it runs twice the speed or something). i dunno who can do this though, half the comments are in spanish lol i will try the emu out again myself later. i couldn't seem to disable the ram on my csmk3 for some reason.

31 March 2007, 15:28	#28
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	I disabled all of the fastmem just by clicking the nofastram icon But as I said before, AMG will be damn slow then.

31 March 2007, 15:52	#29
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	@viddi i think that works with a4000 mobo fast mem. can anyone here on eab modify the amimastergear coding?

31 March 2007, 16:18	#30
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	I see. Yes please, can someone take a look at the AMG-code?

01 April 2007, 15:35	#31
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,818	Do you think a WHDload slave For AmiMasterGear or AmiGameBoy could make it more stable?

01 April 2007, 16:01	#32
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	Mhh...might be. Is the WHDload slave able to emulate e.g. an Amiga with 030/50mhz? This is the given config for 100% emulation speed.

01 April 2007, 17:51	#33
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,473	Or maybe... just maybe... you could run another emulator on your PC?? No-one has just an Amiga as their main system, emulating on the Amiga seems slightly less than pointless these days. As do Amiga ports of games that are available on other formats (Doom, Quake etc.)

01 April 2007, 18:04	#34
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015	Well alexh, AmiMasterGear is a fantastic piece of software. I think it´s a great feeling to play Sonic on an Amiga instead of using just another emulator on a boring PC.

01 April 2007, 22:16	#35
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	i agree with viddi, far more entertaining than emulating on a pc. i think whd'ing this thing is impossible. the amiemulators "bangs" the hardware. so amimastergear and amimsx is impossible under whd i think.

01 April 2007, 23:11	#37
CU_AMiGA Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exeter Age: 39 Posts: 970	@alexh dude, you are the pantomime villian of eab! Oh yeah btw Master System emulator runs too fast on PC too - now get out of that one perry!!!!

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