Europe Underground Scene Vs US Underground Scene

[Amiga1992]

I think there was a lot more C64 cracking scene than Amiga. I would like to compare those two!
I don't remember any Amiga-centric BBSs down here in Argentina or Brazil. I bet none existed.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Akira

I think there was a lot more C64 cracking scene than Amiga.

Just a quick check on Pouet :
Cracktro - C64 : 51 pages
Cracktro - Amiga ECS / AGA : 63 pages
Doesn't proof anything, but I would say the 'cracking scene' on the Miggy was quite lively.

[adolescent]

I disagree. Although the scene presence is all but non-existent, the Amiga was very successful for some time in the US (at least in the 80s). I think it's the relative density of the population of the UK or Europe that makes it seem like there were more Amigas around.

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Just a quick check on Pouet :
Cracktro - C64 : 51 pages
Cracktro - Amiga ECS / AGA : 63 pages
Doesn't proof anything, but I would say the 'cracking scene' on the Miggy was quite lively.

I meant in the United States, not Amiga vs. C64, rather US Amiga vs. EU Amiga

[redblade]

@galahad: Er forgot about the blue boxing thing, Really didn't expect that to play such a big part.

How much more was the cost of hard drives and modems in Europe compared to the US? an extra 10%?

[Skope]

Originally Posted by waal

mmmhhh Hybris was released in 1988 so it might been cracked by german cracker Rob.

The copy I recieved in 88 was cracked by Il Scuro/Def Jam, a then swedish cracker who happens to be an american now. Odd twist. (:

Edit: Well it was Def Jam & CCS iirc.

More editing: And I was wrong, it was PHS/CCS. But still a Def Jam/CCS rel.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by adolescent

I disagree. Although the scene presence is all but non-existent, the Amiga was very successful for some time in the US (at least in the 80s). I think it's the relative density of the population of the UK or Europe that makes it seem like there were more Amigas around.

Wasn't succesful enough to be embraced by Americans though.

Those in the know embraced it for its technical abilities, hence the likes of NewTek.

But for games, it didn't enter into the American subconcious.

[Hewitson]

One of the most famous crackers on the C64 is american. Mitch / ESI (Eagle Soft Incorporated).

North East Crackers/Importers were also pretty big and had some real cracking intros, no pun intended. :P Check out Final Fight or Chase HQ II.

[WayneK]

There was a much bigger US/Ntsc scene on c64 than there was on Amiga... Excluding sysops, there was only a handful of suppliers and even less crackers (can anyone name even 5 total?) active who were based in the States during the peak of the amiga scene days