English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Main > Retrogaming General Discussion

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 21 December 2019, 11:53   #21
Cherno
Registered User
 
Cherno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Dortmund, Germany
Posts: 1,054
I like Tower Assault for it's environments which follow a much more realistic pattern than the confusing mazes of AB2, although AB2 has a nice variety of enemies to fight.
Cherno is offline  
Old 21 December 2019, 19:26   #22
Tsak
Pixelglass/Reimagine
 
Tsak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Athens
Posts: 1,056
It's hands down Tower Assault for me. I've finished all 3 games and the last one is a league of it's own in terms of quality, design and content. Better graphics, better atmosphere, better story, more varied and well justified (and realised) level design, tons of innovation and new ideas, multiple routes to take and multiple ways to finish the game. It's a freakin masterpiece and the absolute peak of the AB series imho.
Tsak is online now  
Old 28 December 2019, 19:11   #23
WalterEgo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 5
Cant say which one was the best one. But when I hear the music, sounds and ambience from Tower Assault I feel something!
WalterEgo is offline  
Old 03 January 2020, 22:06   #24
AmigaHope
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Sandusky
Posts: 944
Tower Assault all the way. It made me feel like I was clearing a real place of alien infestation instead of just wandering video game mazes.
AmigaHope is offline  
Old 14 January 2020, 23:59   #25
ZEUSDAZ
Registered User
 
ZEUSDAZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: England
Posts: 754
Voting over, Alien Breed TA wins with 23 votes, AB1 came a very close 2nd with 22 votes, and AB2 was a distant 3rd with just 6 votes, thanks to everyone who took part in this edition.

Jan 2020 edition will follow shortly on these forums!
ZEUSDAZ is offline  
Old 25 June 2020, 09:27   #26
Nishicorn
Registered User
 
Nishicorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Existence
Posts: 102
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsak View Post
It's hands down Tower Assault for me. Better graphics,
I don't remember exactly how different the graphics are, but I thought the first game was brilliant in that light actually looks like light in it. It was the first game, where I experienced something like this. I guess they kept enough contrast between the 'bright' things and 'dark' things, that when you play on a bright display, everything else looks normal, but the gun flashes and such really look impressive.

I can't remember how well TA implemented this, I just remember being very impressed by this effect back in the day.

Quote:
better atmosphere,
This seems a bit more like an opinion of individual experience than a factual statement, and hard to measure.

Quote:
It's a freakin masterpiece and the absolute peak of the AB series imho.
Well, now we -know- you were just talking about subjective experience and individual opinion rather than objective comparison.

The 'absolute peak' of the 'AB' series is unquestionably Alien Breed 3D, of course. It has probably even more 'innovations' and arguably 'even better' graphics. If you want to talk about atmosphere, no other 3D shooter of its type even comes close! The textures alone OOZE so much atmosphere, I could just stare a wall for hours and not get bored.

It took the 'Doom' concept and fixed and enhanced it; it's REALLY 3D, when Doom is 2.5D. You can actually walk under and over a bridge, and there is even a staircase that has multiple height levels, so you can walk in the same place on multiple levels, not just two.

Need not to mention the brilliant level design and sense of exploration that even Doom couldn't match. Its levels are also so large, that even Quake engine can't properly duplicate them.

If any game was ever 'absolute peak', being so far ahead of Doom and even Quake, not to mention of its own time, it has got to be Alien Breed 3D.

It even has really interesting story told in text before each level, setting the mood perfectly.

When you walk in those beautifully shaded and atmospherically lit hallways and you hear a distant 'howl', your back hair rises up and you know something magnificent is going to happen soon..

Doom is a good game, but I had way more intense experiences and fun completing Alien Breed 3D.

Playing this game on a real Amiga is an experience I recommend to everyone, I can't imagine some repetitive, typical, already-done-multiple-times, unoriginal 2D 'upgrade' of an earlier 2D game is going to be able to compete.

The brilliant touch is to use a bit lower resolution, although at first it seems a bit annoying, it really draws the immersion and engages the imagination, so you have to imagine what things would look like in a higher resolution and more detail.

It's like in a horror movie - it's more scary when you don't see the monsters or ghosts, when you can't be quite sure what's causing the events, and who's in the closet. It's boring if you just see everything clearly all the time.

Robert Englund during daytime is not scary, but watching Nightmare on Elm Street for the first time scared me so much I could hardly sleep.

The same is tre in Alien Breed 3D - the best GPU in existence takes part in creating those graphics - your own imagination.

If anything is better than Alien Breed 3D, I don't want to know about it.. you can just pick this game and play and have fun any day (on a real Amiga anyway), even these days.

I can't imagine the same being true of any other Alien Breed.
Nishicorn is offline  
Old 25 June 2020, 11:44   #27
StevenJGore
Amiga Fanatic
 
StevenJGore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Yorkshire, UK
Age: 46
Posts: 735
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nishicorn View Post
The 'absolute peak' of the 'AB' series is unquestionably Alien Breed 3D, of course.
I agree with the whole of your post. For me, if just one Amiga game sums up the excitement of playing it at the time, the new level design, the feeling like you're playing something new that nobody's experienced before (graphically and atmospherically), etc. then for me that game is Alien Breed 3D.

I didn't feel like that again until the original Half Life on the PC.

But to go back to the original question of this thread, my vote would have gone to Alien Breed II AGA.
StevenJGore is online now  
Old 25 June 2020, 11:53   #28
manossg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Greece
Posts: 992
Yes, AB 3d is top notch for me as well. Even though it doesn't look or play as well as Doom, its atmosphere is second to none.
manossg is offline  
Old 26 June 2020, 07:18   #29
Konrad
Registered User
 
Konrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Germany
Age: 43
Posts: 743
This thread is not about AB3D. A very long post to derail from the topic.

Nishicorn, you write that you dont really remember AB TA and still criticise that some opinions are subjective.
I would suggest that you first check out ABTA to check if it really is the case, or if there may be something objective to it.

Also, I dont see AB3D and AB3D2 really as part of the series. Except the name the games don't have much in common. Which may be the reason why this thread is just about the top down shooters.
Konrad is online now  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Alien Breed Amiga Crazy C support.Games 3 12 June 2017 14:11
Alien Breed & Alien Breed '92: SE - delay when picking up items / opening doors Ian support.WinUAE 16 23 December 2016 15:50
Alien Breed SE (AMIGA) vs Alien Breed (PC) haynor666 Retrogaming General Discussion 0 24 June 2016 14:47
Alien Breed merge with Alien Breed intro haynor666 project.WHDLoad 0 04 June 2016 22:35
Working WinUAE config for Alien Breed and Alien Breed II takeobass support.WinUAE 2 22 July 2008 14:48

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 00:05.

Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Page generated in 0.13113 seconds with 13 queries