THE DREAM OF ROWAN. A brand new game for Amiga 68k - Page 2

Predseda · 10 December 2015, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Akira

community that supports pretty much anything.

Thats it

And it could encourage more Amigans to try something similar in the future, if this succeed. There is a financial potential.

Amiten · 10 December 2015, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Akira

Thanks for eloquently replying to my post

AKIRA what you expect me to answer ? to discuss with you because you do not like the game ? I think there respectfully opinions of all kinds and should be respected . that simple

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Originally Posted by Predseda

Thats it

And it could encourage more Amigans to try something similar in the future, if this succeed. There is a financial potential.

Thanks!! and Totally agree with you Predseda

Retrofan · 10 December 2015, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Akira

You never managed to finish or release any of your "projects" before ("X-Wars"? "RUN PUFF"? "Amivania"? "Parallel Worlds"?) yet suddenly you will finish this one if you get 4000 Euros?

Hey Akira I think 4000€ is a good reason to finish a project. He also takes some responsability with the Kickstart. He hasn't cheat anybody in the past either.

The same way that you take your risk supporting him, he also takes a bigger one launching the kickstart campaign.

Amiga1992 · 10 December 2015, 20:03

Amiten: I didn't say anything about the game. I am talking about your "campaign". People have shown you interest and support in your past projects yet you never delivered anything. I'm questioning, as always, your attitude.

Good job on erasing all the text from your past threads pertaining all your past "projects" I mentioned, though. Except for this particular one that looks very familiar: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78524

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Originally Posted by Predseda

Thats it

And it could encourage more Amigans to try something similar in the future, if this succeed. There is a financial potential.

Obviously the "community" has absolutely no regards for quality, making the Amiga look worse than a ZX Spectrum.

s2325 · 10 December 2015, 20:07

I don't like mixed style of graphics but it may be personal taste. Good luck.

Retrofan · 10 December 2015, 20:16

It is true that he has started some projects that he hasn't finished, but he was making them by his own. Now it's a group of people working on it, and now he has a date to release it and a kickstarter project with people to satisfy.

As I understand it, a kickstart project is a contract. I don't know what rules or laws does it have though.

All of the best, mate. I hope everything will be a success !

Edit: Oh, I forgot to tell that your team recently won 1st place in a gaming conquest...

And also... maybe it won't be the best game, although I'm sure they will try to satisfy all of the requests. But at the same time if the kickstart is successful then it can be also an incentive for some other people to decide to develop a new Amiga game for 68k.

Amiten · 10 December 2015, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Retrofan

It is true that he has started some projects that he hasn't finished, but he was making them by his own. Now it's a group of people working on it, and now he has a date to release it and a kickstarter project with people to satisfy.

As I understand it, a kickstart project is a contract. I don't know what rules or laws does it have though.

All of the best, mate. I hope everything will be a success !

Edit: Oh, I forgot to tell that your team recently won 1st place in a gaming conquest...

thanks for your king words Retrofan !!!

Amiga1992 · 10 December 2015, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Retrofan

As I understand it, a kickstart project is a contract. I don't know what rules or laws does it have though.

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Kickstarter does not guarantee projects or investigate a creator's ability to complete their project. On Kickstarter, backers (you!) ultimately decide the validity and worthiness of a project by whether they decide to fund it.

Also the link I posted above also mentions another occurrence of a team effort that was never finished, actually, it was a tutorial that was turned into this "new" game posted on this thread. Just stating facts here and making a criticism, ultimately, on the general attitude of the Amiga "community" towards supporting whatever that has the "Amiga" name slapped on it, regardless of output.

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Originally Posted by written on Facebook by Johnny Acevedo, September 29

El Sueño de Rowan - New Classic Amiga Game - Coming Soon - By Amiten Software Inc. - December 2015.
we are pleased to announce the development of a new game for the Amiga Classic , that will be released in December this year. The game is part of a course of Amos professional taught online through youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-_...SpvHCNw6lPNkQA . We hope your views and feedback.
the Team of Amiten Software Inc & Amicom TV

Can you explain how this was to be ready this month (said by yourself), but now you say release is October 2016 in your Kickstarter page?

Predseda · 10 December 2015, 20:41

I financially supported Moebius Goatlizzard, Sqrxz, both Gotluths, Alien Fish Finger, EAB forum and there is no reason why I would not support this as well. And yes Akira, you are right: BECAUSE OF AMIGA. I really appreciate all the effort, even if the final product is not top notch and comparable to other ones. And I will keep supporting similar products in future, if I have some money left.

I am also not sure about quality of Dream of Rowan, there is a lot that I would change if it would be my game, but it is Amiten's game and I am glad he is here in this thread and listens to what people tell him. I would contribute with advice or suggestion rather than with criticism, that is contra productive in this case. And now I stop my discussion about this.

Amiten · 10 December 2015, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Predseda

I financially supported Moebius Goatlizzard, Sqrxz, both Gotluths, Alien Fish Finger, EAB forum and there is no reason why I would not support this as well. And yes Akira, you are right: BECAUSE OF AMIGA. I really appreciate all the effort, even if the final product is not top notch and comparable to other ones. And I will keep supporting similar products in future, if I have some money left.

I am also not sure about quality of Dream of Rowan, there is a lot that I would change if it would be my game, but it is Amiten's game and I am glad he is here in this thread and listens to what people tell him. I would contribute with advice or suggestion rather than with criticism, that is contra productive in this case. And now I stop my discussion about this.

Totally agree with you again Predseda (not for support Rowan) its the aptitude all Amigans must have for let this Party Boing!

TCD · 10 December 2015, 21:01

Retrofan · 10 December 2015, 21:05

Offtopic, TCD, but will you be wearing your Christmas suit -Avatar- this year? I like it

And also... when the EAB snowing image with the snowman will appear?

StingRay · 10 December 2015, 21:05

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Originally Posted by akira

you never managed to finish or release any of your "projects" before ("x-wars"? "run puff"? "amivania"? "parallel worlds"?) yet suddenly you will finish this one if you get 4000 euros?

Your "budget breakdown" is just a 3d rendered pie chart with no actual data on it. Your "timetable" has no times on it. The text on the kickstarter page is awfully hard to read which won't help your campaign.
You fail to address why anyone should contribute to it. Just because it's an amiga game? Unfortunately, that seems to work in this community that supports pretty much anything.

A lot of people in this scene have managed to produce and release professional level software for years and in many cases absolutely for free. If you want people to give you money you should up your game and do things professionally. Look at viddi's projects as a good example on how to release a home made game independently. Even though i don't like backbone i respect his hard work on his games and his support is well deserved (and he has a track record of actually releasing stuff).

+1!

TCD · 10 December 2015, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Retrofan

Offtopic, TCD, but will you be wearing your Christmas suit -Avatar- this year? I like it

Hmm, I'll have to search for it... stay tuned

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Originally Posted by Retrofan

And also... when the EAB snowing image with the snowman will appear?

Please bump the thread so that RCK sees it: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=2308

idrougge · 11 December 2015, 00:16

http://yourkickstartersucks.tumblr.com

appnjoy · 11 December 2015, 11:46

I regulary developed in AMOS + AMAL in the past, but most of time wasn't very happy about the result as i moved to C + ASM.

Anyway, wish you luck with your project!

and i hope to see a gameplay demo

aszu · 11 December 2015, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Akira

Obviously the "community" has absolutely no regards for quality, making the Amiga look worse than a ZX Spectrum.

Could not agree more. Although i appreciate all efforts, with ALL BACKBONE games (like ToG ) and this one we make laughing stock out of ourselves.

Before someone will tell me to do something, actually we do. But we don't want to publish it until we have proper playable demo. 32 colors as well.

[ Show youtube player ]

appnjoy · 11 December 2015, 13:55

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Originally Posted by aszu

Could not agree more. Although i appreciate all efforts, with ALL BACKBONE games (like ToG ) and this one we make laughing stock out of ourselves.

Before someone will tell me to do something, actually we do. But we don't want to publish it until we have proper playable demo. 32 colors as well.

[ Show youtube player ]

Promising very good

Woow, it was awhile i didn't hear those joystick sounds

Apollo · 11 December 2015, 14:28

@Akira:
No, you're not the only one thinking about the quality in this way. But usually I refrain from commenting on such topics. It doesn't change anything ....

In general I wish people would make announcements if they actually have something to show (not pre-drawn or mocked up stuff ...). On the other hand, its everyone's own choice if he wants to spend on such a kickstarter project.

spud · 12 December 2015, 13:12

I watched the video and thought some of it looked OK. Some of the sprites looked pretty nice. Ditto the comments already regarding the jumping routine ;-)

I wish you all the best with your project, hope you see this one through to completion.

10 December 2015, 20:16	#26
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	It is true that he has started some projects that he hasn't finished, but he was making them by his own. Now it's a group of people working on it, and now he has a date to release it and a kickstarter project with people to satisfy. As I understand it, a kickstart project is a contract. I don't know what rules or laws does it have though. All of the best, mate. I hope everything will be a success ! Edit: Oh, I forgot to tell that your team recently won 1st place in a gaming conquest... And also... maybe it won't be the best game, although I'm sure they will try to satisfy all of the requests. But at the same time if the kickstart is successful then it can be also an incentive for some other people to decide to develop a new Amiga game for 68k. Last edited by Retrofan; 10 December 2015 at 20:33.

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s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 44 Posts: 17,789	I don't like mixed style of graphics but it may be personal taste. Good luck.

10 December 2015, 20:41	#29
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,567	I financially supported Moebius Goatlizzard, Sqrxz, both Gotluths, Alien Fish Finger, EAB forum and there is no reason why I would not support this as well. And yes Akira, you are right: BECAUSE OF AMIGA. I really appreciate all the effort, even if the final product is not top notch and comparable to other ones. And I will keep supporting similar products in future, if I have some money left. I am also not sure about quality of Dream of Rowan, there is a lot that I would change if it would be my game, but it is Amiten's game and I am glad he is here in this thread and listens to what people tell him. I would contribute with advice or suggestion rather than with criticism, that is contra productive in this case. And now I stop my discussion about this.

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10 December 2015, 21:05	#32
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	Offtopic, TCD, but will you be wearing your Christmas suit -Avatar- this year? I like it And also... when the EAB snowing image with the snowman will appear?

11 December 2015, 00:16	#35
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,348	http://yourkickstartersucks.tumblr.com

11 December 2015, 11:46	#36
appnjoy Amiga lover Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Italy Posts: 21	I regulary developed in AMOS + AMAL in the past, but most of time wasn't very happy about the result as i moved to C + ASM. Anyway, wish you luck with your project! and i hope to see a gameplay demo

11 December 2015, 14:28	#39
Apollo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 138	@Akira: No, you're not the only one thinking about the quality in this way. But usually I refrain from commenting on such topics. It doesn't change anything .... In general I wish people would make announcements if they actually have something to show (not pre-drawn or mocked up stuff ...). On the other hand, its everyone's own choice if he wants to spend on such a kickstarter project.

12 December 2015, 13:12	#40
spud Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: London, UK Posts: 268	I watched the video and thought some of it looked OK. Some of the sprites looked pretty nice. Ditto the comments already regarding the jumping routine ;-) I wish you all the best with your project, hope you see this one through to completion.

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