27 February 2010, 12:18 | #21 |
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I remember seeing a review for a game that i think was called "Rotor" on the Archimedes in ACE magazine, but that was back in about 1990 so don't quote me on that.
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Whether it has success or not, the Archie's have a decent browser(firefox).
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27 February 2010, 16:04 | #23 |
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...have you tried using it in practice, though?
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28 February 2010, 00:54 | #25 |
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Archimedes and RiscPC here The ARM CPU, ARM BASIC, and later file systems are indeed singular in their perfection, and the computers were great, as Acorn's previous computer systems and later models. RiscOS is quite well-designed and fast, but for the most part it's a normal OS as we know it, with a few nice extra features.
For the most part they fell victim of standardization like all other computer makers. For sure they didn't have the head start and marketing clout of IBM and Microsoft, but certainly they should have made an affordable home model, and marketed it outside the UK. They did make some standardization efforts, like reading PC disks, offering PC cpu cards, choosing VGA. But sadly the latter also meant that at the time, game programmers chose consoles over struggling with a graphics architecture that stole a large chunk of the CPU's power. An effort at pandering to the dev community would have helped more applications get ported to it, too. Maybe it happened way after 1987 - as most people coming in a few years late into Archimedes, I have no clue as to what applications and programming languages were available for it, at all. I don't even know a stand-alone assembler/editor for it - even though ARM BASIC is indeed lovely and allows proper assembler source snippets in it, writing line numbers and not offering macros or includes is a hindrance. If someone can link to one I might make a demo for the original Archimedes Last edited by Photon; 02 March 2010 at 00:32. |
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Wonderful machines: As long as you don't use them for CPU-intensive tasks the OS (v6 - last update Dec '09) and apps available still make sense for day-to-day tasks - and you get your retro-fix while you're at it. Yes, you need a VERY well-specced system to run Firefox but !Netsurf isn't a bad browser for most stuff. There's every sign that up-to-date hardware is round the corner - maybe 'two more weeks' (TM). Acorn should have been Europe's Apple but sadly had their own take on the C= like business model. Do take a look @ The Qube RiscOS Server: Info and resources for all, with links to several other sites of interest. Fan-boy Mode: Off |
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Not an unfair point:
Despite it being a acronym I've always written it as RiscOS because: -RiscPC (can't do a 1/2 space in a text editor). -It's easier on the eye. One of those debates that makes the platform 'special'. |
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Irrelevant. It is a proper noun; that is to say, the name of a product or service, and represents a unique entity. Some people write "Micro$oft" and, although I'm sure they doubtless find it amusing, it is not the name of the company. Proper nouns have a special protection in the English language. It would be like writing "Uk" and "Usa". While I'm aware that some words - like 'radar' and 'sonar' - have achieved the status of normal nouns, this is not the case with RISC OS. There is plenty of documentation of this issue and no room for debate. It is unambiguous and crystal clear.
As for RiscPC, yes, there is a half-space in there which is impossible to type. However, "RiscPC" is the accepted convention and is, again, a proper noun (being a product brand name) and so enjoys a certain grammatical protection. Just because a company chose "RISC OS" and yet "RiscPC" does not give you the freedom to edit those brands as you see fit, merely because they look "easier on the eye" to your opinion. Again, this isn't a point of debate, it's simply a fact. The most ludicrous justification I've read so far is that writing "RISC OS" looks like you're shouting |
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Wow...
Whilst I appreciate the facts... Does it really matter that much? |
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Shall we agree to disagree?
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No, because according to Acorn's own documentation, it's RISC OS. It's got a name, that name is stated in facts and documentation and copyright licenses. It's absolutely, unequivocably, crystal clear. You're of course free to call it "Mince Pie OS" if you feel like it, but the fact remains that this is not its proper name.
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The final point is one of respect. If you respect a brand, a developer, a producer of whatever, then you make an effort to get it right. How would you feel if nobody bothered to learn your name? You're called Jason, and everyone keeps calling you James. It's a little bit rude, when it's such a simple thing to get right. Don't you agree, killergirl? Last edited by filth; 01 March 2010 at 21:36. |
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Welcome to EAB, filth!
Example: demo titles (see BitWorld). Here it's important to be a stickler for spelling, since the titles go into a database and should be searchable. The spelling should be as the author supplied it, either displayed in the demo, written somewhere in the program, or the name of the executable or its folder on the original disk. As another example, AmigaDOS is often referred to as AmigaOS, loosely meaning "the operating system for the Amiga", which has changed little since its inception apart from a slight name change. But in casual discussion on a forum, it's not that important. Some may care and spell it right, some may even insert a gif of a half space when mentioning the RiscPC, or we could all take photos of brands and insert them as pictures when we dare mention them, to really get it right. Just typesetting it with the correct font and kerning would still not be quite correct, do you agree? (At first I wrote a longer answer, because sometimes I try to be too balanced ... and wanted to be polite to filth.) |
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Point taken. All I'm saying is that you can't compare RISC/os to AMIGA/os.
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Incidentally, for those interested in Acorn's legacy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8543513.stm (Hermann Hauser is the founder of Acorn, back in 1978) |
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