Super Street Fighter 2 - wrong palette in final version! - Page 2

Cammy · 14 October 2008, 03:56

Super Street Fighter II AGA definitely has a fucked palette. If you take a screenshot and adjust the palette, it looks fine. And apart from the backgrounds, there's something else that's seriously wrong...

Cammy is brown!

Cammy never had a tan, yuck! She's a white girl who wears sunscreen, not an idiot who wants skin cancer. She looks a bit better in OCS, even though she has less colours.

Reynolds · 14 October 2008, 08:14

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Originally Posted by viddi

Just try the WHDload version. It works perfectly. You have to be registered, though.

Somehow the WHD version fails for me. BTW a CD32 version definitely would be better.

Reynolds · 14 October 2008, 08:16

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Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

If you aren't registered I could upload the CD32 version to Magix FTP tonight

It would be cool, but I can't get in to MagixFTP.

viddi · 14 October 2008, 08:21

Reynolds · 14 October 2008, 08:29

Dunno but this looks like a C64 conversion. gfx have been totally scr*wed up. At least is it fast enough?
Can't understand why the creators did not use the gfx from the arcade version, or any console release? looks ugly. Still wanna give a try, but...

viddi · 14 October 2008, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Reynolds

Dunno but this looks like a C64 conversion. gfx have been totally scr*wed up. At least is it fast enough?
Can't understand why the creators did not use the gfx from the arcade version, or any console release? looks ugly. Still wanna give a try, but...

I checked MagixFTP for you. It´s not there yet.

I´d say SSF2 AGA is as fast as the arcade version.

DamienD · 14 October 2008, 13:24

Hmmm, I could upload it to Magix's FTP server for you but...

To be honest this game is sooooo shite. You'll probably only play it once or twice and then never go back to it again. Can't bring myself to waste the bandwidth, especially as it's 405MB WinRAR'd

IMHO all "Street Fighter II" games on the Amiga are pants. Graphics suck, slow loading, bad controls due to not enough buttons on Amiga joysticks etc...

I'm with Alex, play the arcade version via MAME. It's the original and definitely the best. The SNES version is also very cool

Retro1234 · 14 October 2008, 14:01

The graphics are shit and if your showing of your Amiga you need to hide this game but with a CD32 Pad it does have good Playability probably the best of all Amiga Fighting Games.Rebel-CD32 also pointed out the strange pallete.
I cant help thinking maybe SSF2Turbo was made on a Expanded machine and then cut down for release on a standard 020 2mb.

Cammy · 14 October 2008, 15:31

If you guys have Issue 79 of The One magazine, there's an in-depth preview of SSFII, where they explain that it was ported from the SNES of all things.

http://amr.abime.net/issue_362

It seems like it was a very complicated process for them to convert everything. The game plays great, but it just looks crap.

JACK98 · 14 October 2008, 15:33

street fighter is on emule anyway

TCD · 14 October 2008, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reynolds

It would be cool, but I can't get in to MagixFTP.

Well try using a FTP client like FileZilla and if you managed to connect give me a shout

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACK98

street fighter is on emule anyway

Guess who's one of the (very few) seeders

JACK98 · 14 October 2008, 20:11

am i in trouble for sayin that

TCD · 14 October 2008, 20:13

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Originally Posted by JACK98

am i in trouble for sayin that

No, everything is cool

Just wanted to say that I'm seeding it and it took quite a while to get it

Amiga1992 · 15 October 2008, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi

I checked various mags printed on different kinds of paper.
I can´t believe professional printing is THAT inaccurate.

You simply make a terrible assumption and mistake.

Print works on CMYK system, while you are looking at RGB screenshots.
The color conversion DOES BRING a difference, and of course, all mags usually work on standard gear, so the conversion to post color, yields similar results.

Also, your 'analysis" with Cloanto PPaint... a screenshot using that palette doesn't mean that was teh palette in use in the game... you can't trust an emulator screenshot, please.

viddi · 15 October 2008, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

You simply make a terrible assumption and mistake.

Print works on CMYK system, while you are looking at RGB screenshots.
The color conversion DOES BRING a difference, and of course, all mags usually work on standard gear, so the conversion to post color, yields similar results.

Also, your 'analysis" with Cloanto PPaint... a screenshot using that palette doesn't mean that was teh palette in use in the game... you can't trust an emulator screenshot, please.

You´re right about CMYK and RGB for sure.
And of course you can´t call my little PPaint test an analysis.

(the copper is also there...)

I just wanted to find an evidence if it´s possible that they messed up the palette.

I´m going to find a playable demo of SSF2 AGA.
Perhaps it has the proper palette...

vulture · 15 October 2008, 12:17

What Akira said really.... RGB>CMYK conversion is a b**ch. You may have dark blue in RGB and in CMYK it's turned pitch black. Proper conversion tables have helped things lately, but still differences exist at large because of this process.

JACK98 · 16 October 2008, 12:47

still waiting for emule to seed it

JACK98 · 16 October 2008, 17:53

its back to normal now,whoo lol

AmigaFriend · 17 October 2008, 21:18

@all

I'm currently uploading SSF2 Turbo CD32 to Magix FTP.

The connection to the ftp broke once, resumed it, and FileZilla says finished in 2 hours. Not passing 33Kb/s tough. Max on my line is 64Kb/s

s2325 · 21 October 2008, 19:50

colors on box: http://hol.abime.net/712/boxscan
real colors: http://hol.abime.net/712/screenshot

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14 October 2008, 03:56	#21
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,198	Super Street Fighter II AGA definitely has a fucked palette. If you take a screenshot and adjust the palette, it looks fine. And apart from the backgrounds, there's something else that's seriously wrong... Cammy is brown! Cammy never had a tan, yuck! She's a white girl who wears sunscreen, not an idiot who wants skin cancer. She looks a bit better in OCS, even though she has less colours.

14 October 2008, 08:21	#24
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,015

14 October 2008, 08:29	#25
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 46 Posts: 1,113	Dunno but this looks like a C64 conversion. gfx have been totally scr*wed up. At least is it fast enough? Can't understand why the creators did not use the gfx from the arcade version, or any console release? looks ugly. Still wanna give a try, but...

14 October 2008, 13:24	#27
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hmmm, I could upload it to Magix's FTP server for you but... To be honest this game is sooooo shite. You'll probably only play it once or twice and then never go back to it again. Can't bring myself to waste the bandwidth, especially as it's 405MB WinRAR'd IMHO all "Street Fighter II" games on the Amiga are pants. Graphics suck, slow loading, bad controls due to not enough buttons on Amiga joysticks etc... I'm with Alex, play the arcade version via MAME. It's the original and definitely the best. The SNES version is also very cool

14 October 2008, 14:01	#28
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,816	The graphics are shit and if your showing of your Amiga you need to hide this game but with a CD32 Pad it does have good Playability probably the best of all Amiga Fighting Games.Rebel-CD32 also pointed out the strange pallete. I cant help thinking maybe SSF2Turbo was made on a Expanded machine and then cut down for release on a standard 020 2mb.

14 October 2008, 15:31	#29
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,198	If you guys have Issue 79 of The One magazine, there's an in-depth preview of SSFII, where they explain that it was ported from the SNES of all things. http://amr.abime.net/issue_362 It seems like it was a very complicated process for them to convert everything. The game plays great, but it just looks crap.

14 October 2008, 15:33	#30
JACK98 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 420	street fighter is on emule anyway

14 October 2008, 20:11	#32
JACK98 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 420	am i in trouble for sayin that

15 October 2008, 12:17	#36
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,859	What Akira said really.... RGB>CMYK conversion is a b**ch. You may have dark blue in RGB and in CMYK it's turned pitch black. Proper conversion tables have helped things lately, but still differences exist at large because of this process.

16 October 2008, 12:47	#37
JACK98 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 420	still waiting for emule to seed it

16 October 2008, 17:53	#38
JACK98 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 420	its back to normal now,whoo lol

17 October 2008, 21:18	#39
AmigaFriend Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sesimbra/Portugal Posts: 1,462	@all I'm currently uploading SSF2 Turbo CD32 to Magix FTP. The connection to the ftp broke once, resumed it, and FileZilla says finished in 2 hours. Not passing 33Kb/s tough. Max on my line is 64Kb/s

21 October 2008, 19:50	#40
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 44 Posts: 17,789	colors on box: http://hol.abime.net/712/boxscan real colors: http://hol.abime.net/712/screenshot

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