Black Amiga 500 project - Page 2

mr_a500 · 15 April 2008, 23:35

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Mr 500 is that a PS 2 trackball? How does it work on Amiga???

They used to make an Amiga version of this - in fact, it was the very first Amiga trackball available, called "AmTrac". I've got a 1990 Amiga Plus magazine where they review it. They haven't changed the design in all these years and they're still making new ones identical to the one reviewed in that 1990 magazine. Unfortunately, they're only PS2 and USB now, but you can still use it with Amiga if you've got a PS2 adapter.

I use it on my A500 and A3000 with a "Mr. Mysza" adapter. I love this trackball.

TjLaZer · 15 April 2008, 23:35

Zetro, YES I am!! PM me the details!

Graham: I was not sure where to post this, home projects seemed the most appropriate! You can move it if you'd like.

TjLaZer · 15 April 2008, 23:49

Whats the PS/2 trackball called? Tried to look it up online.

Shoonay · 16 April 2008, 00:03

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Originally Posted by mr_a500

"Mr. Mysza" adapter.

Sounds polish and I've never heard of it...

Any piccies, reviews, shop offers?

T_hairy_bootson · 16 April 2008, 00:26

CDTV mouse has a PS/2 type plug, should work with some modification, mine is exactly like the 1200 mouse just in black with a PS/2 plug.

Zetr0 · 16 April 2008, 00:27

there on ebay, and theres a how to build your own on aminet.

Zetr0 · 16 April 2008, 00:29

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Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson

CDTV mouse has a PS/2 type plug, should work with some modification, mine is exactly like the 1200 mouse just in black with a PS/2 plug.

indeedy, but the key plastic part is actually in a different orientation, thats why it wont fit in a regular PS2 port.

you can have it for postage as long as you promise to take lots of hardware pron for the guys here

its a great project and an awesome spray job!

coze · 16 April 2008, 00:36

On aminet there's "Mr Neven" adapter (he's not polish though, he's croat

).

his homepage is most interesting, you can find commented source of the PIC !
http://www.bneven.com/mouseps2.html

mr_a500 · 16 April 2008, 02:08

The trackball is now called "MaxTrac". You can order the black one here and the beige&grey original here. The high price might make you grab your nuts in shock, but just pretend it's on eBay and it'll look like a good deal.

I use a beige one with black ball on my A500 and beige with grey ball on the A3000. They match the Amigas nicely. Now I just need a black Amiga to get the all-black one.

Here's a picture of "Mr. Mysza" PS2 adapter:

Softhut is charging a shocking $42.95 for it - assuming they actually still have some. I thought $24.95 was a ripoff when I bought it from Softhut in 2002. Still... it does the job.

Edit: I just saw that they went and changed the trackball cord to make it USB - with supplied PS2 adapter. Mine are all PS2 (with USB adapter). So that means you'd have to go USB to PS2, then PS2 to Amiga. You'd have a "multi-adapter monstrosity" coming out of your Amiga.

Hey, maybe with that adapter combination you could use all kinds of USB mice on any Amiga then (as long as they're not doing anything complicated). That would be interesting.

Shoonay · 16 April 2008, 02:48

Pricey.

Back in 2002 I got Mroochek (serial) adapter from eFunzine for about 50PLN (about 15EUR) and after that (2005 methinks) got a cheap home-made PS/2 adapter from Allegro for about 30PLN (about 9EUR). I'm using it to this day with a great PS/2 optical mouse, an A4Tech OP-620.
Anyways, I'm stil confused with the origins of Mr. Mysz

TjLaZer · 16 April 2008, 06:28

Yeah I don't want a USB version.

DamienD · 16 April 2008, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

It's just occurred to me that this thread may be in the wrong section

Quote:

Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Graham: I was not sure where to post this, home projects seemed the most appropriate! You can move it if you'd like.

Well, it's not really a "prb" as such but it's seems to be the home for projects like this

TjLaZer · 20 April 2008, 22:19

Updated pics! I will hopefully soon have a CDTV mouse to try and adapt... If anyone has any tips let me know.

Zetr0 · 20 April 2008, 23:37

Looks Great.... if not precariously perched!!! LOL

a very fantastic black spray job

personally getting black right has to be the hardest spray!

rkauer · 21 April 2008, 00:57

@TJ:

AFAIR, Amigakit sells some nice black mice (not like the original CDTV unit).

Shoonay · 21 April 2008, 02:02

Wow, that looks awesome, but re-think painting the TV too!

cane · 21 April 2008, 06:59

Looks awesome, nice paint job

Ironclaw · 21 April 2008, 07:33

Hmm, I should have sandpapered the surface first for smoother look. Hmm, I think I remember the surface of an a500 being smooth, so, is it the spray that makes the surface looking so.. uhm.. un-smooth?. Would be cool if it was totally black, if u know what I mean

.....

Edit: Ah, I mean like the keys look, they look smooth.

Adderly · 21 April 2008, 19:29

looks very cool!

Also check out this pic from Breakpoint 2008 of an black A500 beauty:
http://www.amigafuture.de/album_page.php?pic_id=9807

Mick_AKA · 21 April 2008, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironclaw

Hmm, I should have sandpapered the surface first for smoother look. Hmm, I think I remember the surface of an a500 being smooth, so, is it the spray that makes the surface looking so.. uhm.. un-smooth?. Would be cool if it was totally black, if u know what I mean

.....

Edit: Ah, I mean like the keys look, they look smooth.

Should have sanded and primed with plastic primer, I'm afraid your paint job is unlikely to last too long otherwise.

16 April 2008, 02:08	#29
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	The trackball is now called "MaxTrac". You can order the black one here and the beige&grey original here. The high price might make you grab your nuts in shock, but just pretend it's on eBay and it'll look like a good deal. I use a beige one with black ball on my A500 and beige with grey ball on the A3000. They match the Amigas nicely. Now I just need a black Amiga to get the all-black one. Here's a picture of "Mr. Mysza" PS2 adapter: Softhut is charging a shocking $42.95 for it - assuming they actually still have some. I thought $24.95 was a ripoff when I bought it from Softhut in 2002. Still... it does the job. Edit: I just saw that they went and changed the trackball cord to make it USB - with supplied PS2 adapter. Mine are all PS2 (with USB adapter). So that means you'd have to go USB to PS2, then PS2 to Amiga. You'd have a "multi-adapter monstrosity" coming out of your Amiga. Hey, maybe with that adapter combination you could use all kinds of USB mice on any Amiga then (as long as they're not doing anything complicated). That would be interesting. Last edited by mr_a500; 16 April 2008 at 02:54.

20 April 2008, 22:19	#33
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,927	Updated pics! I will hopefully soon have a CDTV mouse to try and adapt... If anyone has any tips let me know. Last edited by TjLaZer; 14 May 2008 at 07:59.

21 April 2008, 07:33	#38
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 46 Posts: 3,313	Hmm, I should have sandpapered the surface first for smoother look. Hmm, I think I remember the surface of an a500 being smooth, so, is it the spray that makes the surface looking so.. uhm.. un-smooth?. Would be cool if it was totally black, if u know what I mean ..... Edit: Ah, I mean like the keys look, they look smooth. Last edited by Ironclaw; 21 April 2008 at 07:40.

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15 April 2008, 23:35	#22
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,927	Zetro, YES I am!! PM me the details! Graham: I was not sure where to post this, home projects seemed the most appropriate! You can move it if you'd like.

15 April 2008, 23:49	#23
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,927	Whats the PS/2 trackball called? Tried to look it up online.

16 April 2008, 00:26	#25
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	CDTV mouse has a PS/2 type plug, should work with some modification, mine is exactly like the 1200 mouse just in black with a PS/2 plug.

16 April 2008, 00:27	#26
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	there on ebay, and theres a how to build your own on aminet.

16 April 2008, 00:36	#28
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	On aminet there's "Mr Neven" adapter (he's not polish though, he's croat ). his homepage is most interesting, you can find commented source of the PIC ! http://www.bneven.com/mouseps2.html

16 April 2008, 02:48	#30
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,107	Pricey. Back in 2002 I got Mroochek (serial) adapter from eFunzine for about 50PLN (about 15EUR) and after that (2005 methinks) got a cheap home-made PS/2 adapter from Allegro for about 30PLN (about 9EUR). I'm using it to this day with a great PS/2 optical mouse, an A4Tech OP-620. Anyways, I'm stil confused with the origins of Mr. Mysz

16 April 2008, 06:28	#31
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,927	Yeah I don't want a USB version.

20 April 2008, 23:37	#34
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Looks Great.... if not precariously perched!!! LOL a very fantastic black spray job personally getting black right has to be the hardest spray!

21 April 2008, 00:57	#35
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	@TJ: AFAIR, Amigakit sells some nice black mice (not like the original CDTV unit).

21 April 2008, 02:02	#36
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,107	Wow, that looks awesome, but re-think painting the TV too!

21 April 2008, 06:59	#37
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	Looks awesome, nice paint job

21 April 2008, 19:29	#39
Adderly [Satan^God] Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 701	looks very cool! Also check out this pic from Breakpoint 2008 of an black A500 beauty: http://www.amigafuture.de/album_page.php?pic_id=9807

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