Pc 2 Amiga problems! - Page 2

arendal · 04 August 2010, 15:11

Sorry for being so sceptic, but it sounds amazing.
Didnt think that amiga would recognice the CF card that is formatet in the amiga.
And what about the workbench disk, do i have to get one for the installation.

Jimbo · 04 August 2010, 15:46

You dont format the CF card if using it via PCMCIA. Keep it with the fat filesystem so both the Amiga and PC can read it.

alexh · 04 August 2010, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by arendal

Sorry for being so sceptic, but it sounds amazing.
Didnt think that amiga would recognice the CF card that is formatet in the amiga.

Some clever bloke wrote those free tools (CFD and FAT95) which do all the hard work.

The EasyADF PCMCIA CF Transfer Kit uses these free tools at it's heart (bundled together with lots of nice GUI stuff & extras to make life easier).

If you could have tried to transfer them using a 720Kbyte PC formatted floppy disk over to your Amiga for installation then it would have worked.

You seem to be very new to this. Cost for you shouldn't be an issue over easy of use. Just buy the kit from Amigakit and a USB CF card reader and get going! (If your laptop has a PCMCIA slot then you don't even need the USB card reader!)

arendal · 04 August 2010, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Some clever bloke wrote those free tools (CFD and FAT95) which do all the hard work.

The EasyADF PCMCIA CF Transfer Kit uses these free tools at it's heart (bundled together with lots of nice GUI stuff & extras to make life easier).

If you could have tried to transfer them using a 720Kbyte PC formatted floppy disk over to your Amiga for installation then it would have worked.

You seem to be very new to this. Cost for you shouldn't be an issue over easy of use. Just buy the kit from Amigakit and a USB CF card reader and get going! (If your laptop has a PCMCIA slot then you don't even need the USB card reader!)

Now i have ordered the Amigakit and a CF card, so i hope i get it soon...
I live in Norway so i guess it takes some days. And yes i am new to amiga by the way its about 20years since last time i used it. And at that time i never thougth about moving files from pc to amiga.

prowler · 04 August 2010, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

the IDE can take 2 devices you know

Some CF-IDE adapters appear to prohibit this - even when they are only single card devices!

Konrad · 04 August 2010, 21:22

@prowler: Most of them need to be Master. Could that've been your problem ?

prowler · 04 August 2010, 21:31

Hi Konrad,

I've not had the problem myself, but I have seen it reported by other EAB members on a few occasions.

The first advice given is generally to swap the Master and Slave configurations of the devices on the IDE channel. When that hasn't worked, the next suggestion is to use a 4-way buffered IDE interface and connect the CF-IDE adapter to the secondary IDE channel.

I can't recall the issue ever having been fixed by swapping the Master and Slave configuration of the HDD and CF-IDE adapter. Often the simplest solution is just to buy a different adapter.

It seems that some adapters behave just like 2-card devices with one card missing.

rkauer · 05 August 2010, 05:05

Heather from Amibay manage to make two CF works in cooperation by simply mounting the second unit using a mountlist.

She used a dual CF adaptor in a back slot cover.

cosmicfrog · 06 August 2010, 13:17

plus some ppl don`t realize you can make a 2.5" HDD master/slave or cable select with a little jumper

arendal · 16 August 2010, 12:55

I hope i get the amigakit in my mailbox today, now i have waited a long time;-)

ppill · 16 August 2010, 16:06

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26437

Here's a fix to get paradise working on WindowsXP, no idea whether it's Windows7 compatible. Just make sure you have UserPort running and the latest Paradise version from the author's website.

You kind of jumped the gun with EasyADF package as you really just need three files to get a compact flash adapter working.

compactflash.device copied to DEVS:
fat95 to L:
CF0 and Cf0.info to DEVS:Dosdrivers/

all free and available on aminet.net

I'm sure it's (EasyADF I mean) a nice piece of software but if just you could get those three files over to the amiga (using a floppy disk like alexh suggested) you'd have it up and running.

TCD · 16 August 2010, 16:13

A bit OT, but you should update the link to Hombre in your sig to http://wiki.abime.net/file_transfer/hombre

ppill · 16 August 2010, 16:15

@TCD

Thanks for the heads up!

athiga · 16 August 2010, 19:16

here is what i do

get the amiga hd drive conect it to pc ide port and configure winuae to use it then dump the files on there simple

but you do need hard disk and have to take apart the 1200

arendal · 16 August 2010, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by athiga

here is what i do

get the amiga hd drive conect it to pc ide port and configure winuae to use it then dump the files on there simple

but you do need hard disk and have to take apart the 1200

Sounds more easy then it probarbly is;-)

Problem 1: My amiga IDE cabel is diffrent from my Pc IDE cabel?

Problem 2: Configure winuae in windows 7

Problem 3: Can Winuae read files from both pc hd(fat/ntfs) and amiga hd(amiga formatet).

I didnt get my amigakit today.....I hate to wait

prowler · 17 August 2010, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by arendal

Problem 1: My amiga IDE cabel is diffrent from my Pc IDE cabel?

To connect your Amiga's 44-pin IDE hard drive to your PC's 40-pin IDE cable, you will need a 2½-inch to 3½-inch drive adapter, which has a 44-pin connector for your Amiga's drive, a 40-pin connector for you PC's IDE cable and a 4-pin power connector to supply power to the Amiga's hard drive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arendal

Problem 3: Can Winuae read files from both pc hd(fat/ntfs) and amiga hd(amiga formatet).

Yes. You can mount PC formatted and Amiga formatted drives in the GUI before starting the emulation.

arendal · 17 August 2010, 09:48

Sounds great! I will test this out as soon as i get a hold of the rigth cabels.

Another problem i see that can arise, is that when i disconnect my amiga drive and put it back on, sometimes my amiga dont boot from it. Then i just have 2 try many times and suddenly it boots from it.
Seems random but i dont know, any ide what it can be?

rkauer · 17 August 2010, 20:07

Sounds like a bad contact on the Amiga IDE cable. Replace it.

arendal · 17 August 2010, 22:00

I have got my AmigaKit today, and it works!

But not great, it works fine in the Amiga, but in all of my 3 pc the card hangs after short time. I can copy/delete 2-3 files and then it stops.
Rigth now i am trying to copy a file of 764kb to it and the progressbar just stayes still;-(
And this has happend in all my 3 diffrent pcs now.

Methanoid · 02 July 2012, 10:01

Why doesnt PC2Amiga work in XP/Vista/7? Anyone know?

I mean whats the point of a parallel port on your PC these days if NOT to connect to an Amiga?

16 August 2010, 16:06	#31
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26437 Here's a fix to get paradise working on WindowsXP, no idea whether it's Windows7 compatible. Just make sure you have UserPort running and the latest Paradise version from the author's website. You kind of jumped the gun with EasyADF package as you really just need three files to get a compact flash adapter working. compactflash.device copied to DEVS: fat95 to L: CF0 and Cf0.info to DEVS:Dosdrivers/ all free and available on aminet.net I'm sure it's (EasyADF I mean) a nice piece of software but if just you could get those three files over to the amiga (using a floppy disk like alexh suggested) you'd have it up and running. Last edited by ppill; 16 August 2010 at 16:17.

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04 August 2010, 15:11	#21
arendal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arendal Posts: 26	Sorry for being so sceptic, but it sounds amazing. Didnt think that amiga would recognice the CF card that is formatet in the amiga. And what about the workbench disk, do i have to get one for the installation.

04 August 2010, 15:46	#22
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	You dont format the CF card if using it via PCMCIA. Keep it with the fat filesystem so both the Amiga and PC can read it.

04 August 2010, 21:22	#26
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 746	@prowler: Most of them need to be Master. Could that've been your problem ?

04 August 2010, 21:31	#27
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Konrad, I've not had the problem myself, but I have seen it reported by other EAB members on a few occasions. The first advice given is generally to swap the Master and Slave configurations of the devices on the IDE channel. When that hasn't worked, the next suggestion is to use a 4-way buffered IDE interface and connect the CF-IDE adapter to the secondary IDE channel. I can't recall the issue ever having been fixed by swapping the Master and Slave configuration of the HDD and CF-IDE adapter. Often the simplest solution is just to buy a different adapter. It seems that some adapters behave just like 2-card devices with one card missing.

05 August 2010, 05:05	#28
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Heather from Amibay manage to make two CF works in cooperation by simply mounting the second unit using a mountlist. She used a dual CF adaptor in a back slot cover.

06 August 2010, 13:17	#29
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	plus some ppl don`t realize you can make a 2.5" HDD master/slave or cable select with a little jumper

16 August 2010, 12:55	#30
arendal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arendal Posts: 26	I hope i get the amigakit in my mailbox today, now i have waited a long time;-)

16 August 2010, 16:13	#32
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 32,176	A bit OT, but you should update the link to Hombre in your sig to http://wiki.abime.net/file_transfer/hombre

16 August 2010, 16:15	#33
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	@TCD Thanks for the heads up!

16 August 2010, 19:16	#34
athiga aka bigfoot catnap Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: e port/uk Posts: 101	here is what i do get the amiga hd drive conect it to pc ide port and configure winuae to use it then dump the files on there simple but you do need hard disk and have to take apart the 1200

17 August 2010, 09:48	#37
arendal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arendal Posts: 26	Sounds great! I will test this out as soon as i get a hold of the rigth cabels. Another problem i see that can arise, is that when i disconnect my amiga drive and put it back on, sometimes my amiga dont boot from it. Then i just have 2 try many times and suddenly it boots from it. Seems random but i dont know, any ide what it can be?

17 August 2010, 20:07	#38
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Sounds like a bad contact on the Amiga IDE cable. Replace it.

17 August 2010, 22:00	#39
arendal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arendal Posts: 26	I have got my AmigaKit today, and it works! But not great, it works fine in the Amiga, but in all of my 3 pc the card hangs after short time. I can copy/delete 2-3 files and then it stops. Rigth now i am trying to copy a file of 764kb to it and the progressbar just stayes still;-( And this has happend in all my 3 diffrent pcs now.

02 July 2012, 10:01	#40
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,874	Why doesnt PC2Amiga work in XP/Vista/7? Anyone know? I mean whats the point of a parallel port on your PC these days if NOT to connect to an Amiga?

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