10 April 2024, 03:41 | #21 |
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Sorry about this Amibay link, but there I've posted some data from a service I have access to. Could be of interrest.
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"Aangewezen voorlopig bewindvoerder:" translates as "Designated provisional administrator" "Appointed" is close enough. btw-that address is for Bofidi, their accountants Keep up the good work, #6 Last edited by number6; 10 April 2024 at 04:08. Reason: bah. missed an "i" in Bofidi |
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Wonder if anybody has a rough idea of what kind of sum it could be? This btw is a sort of thing which "Global Amiga Alliance" or whatever they were called should be looking into, if they were serious players. But I guess everyone forgot about that ol'chestnut already. |
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10 April 2024, 06:46 | #24 |
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The entire legal construction around this company and Hyperion is unclear at the moment, thus whether AmigaOs development rights are in this company or another right now is a different topic.
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10 April 2024, 08:35 | #25 |
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Hyperion Entertainment is still in normal operation but has a loss of about 382,000 euro (replace the , with a . if you're not an American ;-).
Ben's company has filed for bancruptcy. Ben and Charlotte are the directors of Hyperion Entertainment. If one of the directors have filed for bankruptcy, it doesn't mean the company he's directing also has filed for bankruptcy. I also noticed both Ben and Hyperion Entertainment haven't filed an annual account since 2021. Each company in Belgium is obliged to file an annual account every year to explain the financial situation of the company. This information is public and can be consulted by everyone. |
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Their status was later restored. Source #6 Last edited by number6; 10 April 2024 at 14:17. Reason: Better link covering both removal and restoration |
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10 April 2024, 14:50 | #27 |
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I keep seeing dates all over the place, 2015, 2017... Is this actually something actually recent or from 5+ years ago? One thing is resurrecting old Amiga threads where content is always 'actual', meaning the same problems, issues keeps the same as the software/hardware is the same, but regarding Hyperion...
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Delving any further into past events will just take us further off-topic. #6 |
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And yes the legal situation surrounding the source-code is also unclear. But if, and I stress again if, Hyperion's assets do go up for sale, the community needs to be poised and ready to step in with an offer and the plans for a fund-raiser. Let's not shoot down it all down as off-topic just because we don't have all the answers yet. There's at least 3 companies I can think of off the top of my head who might already be on the phone trying to strike deals, speculation be damned. |
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10 April 2024, 15:21 | #30 | |
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Hence, unless the Ben Hermans B.V. has substantial claims against the person of the same name or Ben Hermans B.V. actually owns Hyperion B.V., this would most likely be irrelevant to Hyperion and the further fate of AmigaOS. Having read the AmigaNews article linked to above, I wonder whether a limited liability company could be acting as a director (because that's what it says in the German article) of another company. I would expect this function to be reserved for actual persons, not legal entities. The bit about 97% of the shares in Hyperion likely belonging to Ben Hermans B.V. is promising but I guess we will know in another two weeks... And then there is the question what the missing 3% will mean in reality. |
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But as to the other portion of your post, I believe this is on-topic: Source Amigakit It certainly speaks to which people are following the events and their preparation, no? #6 |
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10 April 2024, 16:15 | #32 |
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It's always two weeks before something happens in the Amiga scene.
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10 April 2024, 17:44 | #33 |
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Astonished that anyone cares..
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@thread
For what it's worth: In 2019, Trevor Dickinson acquired co-ownership of AmigaOS 4 (German) same (English) #6 |
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It's difficult being Ben because Ben owes Ben a lot of money. And it's all for the love of the Amiga. Ben vs Ben for the betterment of AmigaOS and why not charge for it because Ben owes Ben and that blue butterfly is not authentic enough and updated way too often. Let's let bygons be bygones and pony up some cash for the real OS that's made for free. Does that break it down effectively so it's Cristal Castle clear and legible?
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I'm very benfused now.
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Cloanto has genuine love for the Amiga (and has shown it standing by the Amiga during the “dark years” when it wasn’t profitable in the slightest), while these leeches never had anything to do with it until they got word of the fact that a very vocal niche was ready to spend hundreds of euros on stuff labeled “Amiga”. As soon as it came out that the AmigaOS 3.1.4 and 3.2 devs were not being paid for their work I decided to not support Hyperion and their friends in any capacity - if that’s how they treated the people that made them money it was obvious from the beginning what kind of people they were. Glad I made the right choice back then and I am now even happier to not have supported these evil scheming fools after reading what they’ve done to poor Cloanto. It’s time to finally give Amiga rights back in the hands of someone who cares and that’s not in just for the money. If anyone reading this has any love for the Amiga, they should immediately stop purchasing anything made by Hyperion or A-EON and think of asking a refund if they made such a purchase recently. |
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That being said, one of Cloanto's problems has been the inability to communicate based on legal advice. As you well know, they can not and do not even use their own website Amiga.com. It is a little difficult to make a case for oneself when advised not to. #6 |
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