Is Vesalia for real?

[kriz]

Yes they are real and recomended !! I have ordered several times, through many years.. All delivered 100% !!

[rkauer]

Ah, a final advice: open your A500+ and remove the battery before it's too late for the motherboard: when it leaks the destruction is large and then, goodbye 500+...

[prowler]

Originally Posted by Geraldine

Oh well here goes! Okay..... thats all the stuff ordered. Now keeping everything crossed!

Having started this, don't forget to let us know how it goes.

[Geraldine]

Ok, did the payment process, so hopefully my stuff will be headed to Scotland on a slow boat since the airlines are grounded .

Also had a look at the Ebay site for the 80Mhz 060, but it was unclear if they had any left, so just went for the Vesalia one. A bird in the hand and all that, but thanks for the tip anyways. And yes! It is socketed! You are correct alexh! . But it is pretty solid on there and the socket from what I can see looks fine. The plastic tape which fell onto it landed in the centre of the 060. So my next question, how the hell do I remove it without destroying it? Here are some pics, sorry for the quality, but all I have is a crappy Nokia camera phone

[alexh]

Nice Cybervision too

Originally Posted by Geraldine

how the hell do I remove it without destroying it?

Very carefully??

Seriously though, I don't know.

[Loedown]

If you're talking about removing tape, I'd go for acetone and methylated spirits to get rid of the sticky, but ensuring that the acetone only came into contact with the tape.

As for removing the chip, consider it like a paint lid, just popping at one point isn't going to get it open, but very slow and careful levering all around in very minute amounts will probably do it, but as people have already said in this thread, be wary of the socket.

[cosmicfrog]

always be mindful of the number 1 thing that kills circuit boards is a screw driver

though very carefully + tin of paint lid works for me

[Loedown]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

always be mindful of the number 1 thing that kills circuit boards is a screw driver

though very carefully + tin of paint lid works for me

Here was me thinking it was faulty NiCad batteries or dodgy caps

[cosmicfrog]

hehehehhe

ok I will rephrase

most likely thing to kill an amiga Mbo is a leaky battery everything else its a wayward screw driver

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

hehehehhe

ok I will rephrase

most likely thing to kill an amiga Mbo is a leaky battery everything else its a wayward screw driver

I killed a PC Mobo trying to get the CPU fan on once

Screwdriver slipped...

[Loedown]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

hehehehhe

ok I will rephrase

most likely thing to kill an amiga Mbo is a leaky battery everything else its a wayward screw driver

[me] My cat's got worms.

[vet] Don't worry, it's just a wayward screwdriver

A rule I heard many years ago about electronics is 70/20/10

70% mechanical
20% high voltage
10% fast switching

I reckon Zetr0 could comment about wayward screwdrivers and alike, I could certainly comment about people doing their own fix up jobs and then asking me for help. I still advise anyone who is genuinely unsure, if you don't really know what you're doing, don't do it, but spend a little cash to get someone who does to fix it, because be assured, when a botched job comes along and you have to fix up the original fault along with the bodge, it's a massive pain in the arse.

[cosmicfrog]

excellent advice that and not just for electronics

But I`ve got the fix Its a hammer and if that don`t work I get the bigger hammer out

[deicidal]

Originally Posted by Loedown

I reckon Zetr0 could comment about wayward screwdrivers and alike, I could certainly comment about people doing their own fix up jobs and then asking me for help. I still advise anyone who is genuinely unsure, if you don't really know what you're doing, don't do it, but spend a little cash to get someone who does to fix it, because be assured, when a botched job comes along and you have to fix up the original fault along with the bodge, it's a massive pain in the arse.

Dunno i think ive learnt most of what i know from going in heavy handed, just do a bit of research first, be gentle and take lots of photos so you know how it looked before hand :P .

I did once wake up to find the cat sat inside my PC, did consider turning it on to teach it a lesson but thought it may damage the PC.

[Geraldine]

I think what I will try is put a strip of hard plastic between the board and chip then use a micro screwdriver to ease the chip off. This is scary stuff! . Oh No! I have just remembered, I am going to have to go through all this again with the rom chips! Any last advice before I destroy, I mean attempt this?

Edit: I`ve done it! My hands are still shaking but I done it! The pins on the 060 must only be about 5 mm in length, but when you are trying to get the chip out, the seem so much longer. So glad that's over and no damage too, looks like my plastic ruler did the trick of protecting the CS board. Oh well now for the rom chips............

Edit Mk2: Removed the roms, last pins got just a little bent on removal, but straightened out ok and now stored away for future use. Checked the 4000's battery and it looks a little furry, but no leaks. So I have removed it to be safe, the 500+'s battery is sound as the machine saw very little use. Also noticed the 500 had a Panasonic floppy drive too. No problems there at least.

Was looking at the cases and they are a bit yellow with age. Anyone got any tips for restoring them to their original colour?
Apart from that I am all set and ready for the parts. I still cant believe I waited over 10 years to do this! , Better late than never I guess. Will it all work after this time???

[rkauer]

Did you opened the 500+ to remove the battery (sorry for being redundant about it).

BTW: congratulations for the successful attempt on sacking out the defective 060. Grab a new one, align it carefully on the socket, press until it level up and have fun.

[cosmicfrog]

yay

watch out for bending last 2 pins on rom chip, not that it matters 2 much

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by Geraldine

Was looking at the cases and they are a bit yellow with age. Anyone got any tips for restoring them to their original colour?

Hi, take a look at this thread

Some very nice restorations on old Yellow cases...

Steve.

[Geraldine]

Peroxide? Mmmmmmmmm, not to admit I am going grey or anything...., but I do have a bottle of hair dye, for um er..... anyways yes I will give that a go, thanks Steve! If that doesn't work, I could always use plastic spray paint, except for the keyboard of course.

Was also having a think about the 4000s battery. One of the connectors came away when I removed it. Was thinking of soldering a little wire onto the board and just moving the entire thing outside the case, perhaps using cable ties to secure a little battery box to the outside rear of the case. The back of the 4000 has lots of little air holes which could hold it. That way anymore leaks in the future will never be a problem again. As for the battery box, I was looking at an old lipstick container that might just be the right size.

[alexh]

Guaranteed to work :

http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/

[Geraldine]

Are they selling this stuff Alex?