Zoom NTSC 1988 Discovery Software - Page 2

Supamax · 02 April 2015, 20:42

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Originally Posted by john1979

Now the only problem is getting it back to a real disk. I don't think Powercopy Pro can do it.

Yes, it can (as I wrote in my post #17).

You could also try with X-Copy Pro, but I don't know if it can do it.

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Meh, so the FAQ mentions I can't upload IPFs to the zone, so I have deleted it. Yet it's okay to upload uncracked games in ADF format. Bizarre, bizarre policy.

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The IPF is easily obtainable by grabbing the torrent on capsdi's frontpage anyway.

By the way, CAPSDI torrent is not updated... There are a lot of .ipf releases which aren't available yet on the Internet... (or at least I cannot find them)

kipper2k · 02 April 2015, 21:34

regarding uploading of ipf's i believe people from the SPS said they didnt mind them uploaded ( i believe tnere was some posts about it last year.

i do have a backup of my Zoom too, i just found it, not sure how i created it now lol. i'll have to play

john1979 · 02 April 2015, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Supamax

Yes, it can (as I wrote in my post #17).

Thank you! If you never said that I never would have tried.

It took some time to work out the method but now I have a perfectly working disk playing on my A600. Method I used was as follows:

1. In UAE, mount powercopy in DF0:, Zoom IPF in DF1.
2. Add DH0: to be linked to a folder on your PC Hard Drive.
3. Run UAE and select target DEV: in powercopy to be DH0:, Source to be DF1:
4. Start the copy (didn't change any read options.) Wait a long time.
5. Take the folder of files it creates on your PC HDD and transfer to CF on real Amiga.
6. Load Powercopy on real Amiga. Choose source DEV: to be the folder you just copied across, target dev to DF0:
7. Start the copy (still no options changed.)

Voila, a working copy of Zoom!. No cracks needed.

It works fine in both PAL and NTSC modes.

And for those who want to skip steps 1 to 4. I have Zoom! in Powercopy format on my webspace. (I hope I am not breaking any rules as this is no longer an IPF image.)

http://zaphod.hacked.jp:60000/eab/zo...opy-format.zip

kipper2k · 02 April 2015, 23:12

Mabbe a mod can say what the current policy on IPF's is to clear up any confusion ?

Galahad/FLT · 02 April 2015, 23:41

Check out the zone for a beta islave to be used with Rawdic.

Would be interested to know if it will image the game disk properly.

To get Rawdic to read the disk, Rawdic slave=zoom.islave

Any claim on not needing a cracked version is probably premature, I'm guessing that its processor timed loader prevents loading on A1200+

In the zone if someone can check or just email me the IPF that would be even more super

john1979 · 03 April 2015, 00:09

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Any claim on not needing a cracked version is probably premature, I'm guessing that its processor timed loader prevents loading on A1200+

You would be correct. You can play this game on A500/600 but not 1200.

Email sent.

Galahad/FLT · 03 April 2015, 00:56

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Originally Posted by john1979

You would be correct. You can play this game on A500/600 but not 1200.

Email sent.

Ta for that, minor mod needed to the imager and it reads the disk image fine.

Mark Wright · 03 April 2015, 01:09

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Originally Posted by kipper2k

Mabbe a mod can say what the current policy on IPF's is to clear up any confusion ?

Well, I'm prepared to test the water here. Let's see what happens when a decade-long member of EAB links to a 27-year-old game released by a long-dead company for a long-dead platform...

http://www.radiofriendly.co.uk/zoom.rar

I believe that to be the US/NTSC release.

Stop press: diamond greetings to Frank Neuhaus... still marauding it professional nach all den Jahren! ;-)

Galahad/FLT · 03 April 2015, 02:22

So am I to assume there is no working NTSC version crack of this game?

Lots of encryption at the start of the game, but nothing exciting beyond that.

Hewitson · 03 April 2015, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Check out the zone for a beta islave to be used with Rawdic.

islave?

john1979 · 03 April 2015, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Hewitson

islave?

People who queue overnight to buy the latest Apple gadget.

mr.vince · 03 April 2015, 15:33

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Originally Posted by kipper2k

Mabbe a mod can say what the current policy on IPF's is to clear up any confusion ?

Good idea.

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

In the zone if someone can check or just email me the IPF that would be even more super

Mate, you got my email, right?

Supamax · 07 April 2015, 23:49

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Originally Posted by john1979

People who queue overnight to buy the latest Apple gadget.

16 April 2015, 11:46

I am going to check what is my original version. I have it in the same cardbox format than Arkanoid, Sword of sodan, etc... This box seems not to be registered on the Zoom! HOL page (?). I don't know if it is the PAL or NTSC version.

EDIT : Here are the pictures, i will test it if necessary.

Supamax · 16 April 2015, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Vollldo

This box seems not to be registered on the Zoom! HOL page (?). I don't know if it is the PAL or NTSC version.

Judging from the box and Business Reply Mail, I would say it's NTSC. But I'm not 100% sure.

DrBong · 16 April 2015, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Vollldo

I am going to check what is my original version. I have it in the same cardbox format than Arkanoid, Sword of sodan, etc... This box seems not to be registered on the Zoom! HOL page (?). I don't know if it is the PAL or NTSC version.

EDIT : Here are the pictures, i will test it if necessary.

That's the same as Kipper2k's copy (see post#6) and one of 2 NTSC versions released methinks. It would have belonged to this box release:

http://goo.gl/tb2Md2

I have the copy that's shown in the HOL entry and the disk label is nowhere near as sexy!

john1979 · 16 April 2015, 19:17

I am wondering if the code on the PAL and NTSC disks are identical.

The version I got working seems happy in either mode.

DrBong · 16 April 2015, 19:34

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Originally Posted by john1979

I am wondering if the code on the PAL and NTSC disks are identical.

The version I got working seems happy in either mode.

Yeh, I was wondering that too. Neither the disk or WHDLoad version here on my PAL machines would go into NTSC mode IIRC unless I forced it to (using the early start-up or setting the NTSC tooltype).

Some NTSC versions of Ami games are hardwired while others are not, if you understand what I'm getting at. The U.S. releases of Zoom probably don't act like they're tied to NTSC hardware.

TjLaZer · 18 April 2015, 03:16

Aren't there any diskcopiers with parameters available that are able to copy and crack this disk so we can image it?

dlfrsilver · 18 April 2015, 03:43

unfortunately not

not even powercopy......

02 April 2015, 23:12	#24
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	Mabbe a mod can say what the current policy on IPF's is to clear up any confusion ? Last edited by kipper2k; 02 April 2015 at 23:24.

16 April 2015, 11:46	#34
Vollldo Posts: n/a	I am going to check what is my original version. I have it in the same cardbox format than Arkanoid, Sword of sodan, etc... This box seems not to be registered on the Zoom! HOL page (?). I don't know if it is the PAL or NTSC version. EDIT : Here are the pictures, i will test it if necessary. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Vollldo; 16 April 2015 at 12:01.

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kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	regarding uploading of ipf's i believe people from the SPS said they didnt mind them uploaded ( i believe tnere was some posts about it last year. i do have a backup of my Zoom too, i just found it, not sure how i created it now lol. i'll have to play

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Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,016	Check out the zone for a beta islave to be used with Rawdic. Would be interested to know if it will image the game disk properly. To get Rawdic to read the disk, Rawdic slave=zoom.islave Any claim on not needing a cracked version is probably premature, I'm guessing that its processor timed loader prevents loading on A1200+ In the zone if someone can check or just email me the IPF that would be even more super

03 April 2015, 02:22	#29
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,016	So am I to assume there is no working NTSC version crack of this game? Lots of encryption at the start of the game, but nothing exciting beyond that.

16 April 2015, 19:17	#37
john1979 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Age: 44 Posts: 748	I am wondering if the code on the PAL and NTSC disks are identical. The version I got working seems happy in either mode.

18 April 2015, 03:16	#39
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,927	Aren't there any diskcopiers with parameters available that are able to copy and crack this disk so we can image it?

18 April 2015, 03:43	#40
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,505	unfortunately not not even powercopy......

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