Breakthru by DataEast - Page 2

acidbottle · 16 May 2023, 10:38

@saimon - do not panic about any of the tracks, you have created a tonne so far and there is seriously no hurry here

I'm concerned I cannot source sfx for Breakthru though .. even just the fire/missile sfx!

@photon - thank you very much for the comments, hope this wil provide a bit of pick up and play fun. The arcade version can be pretty tough going, this version might be a snatch easier .. my reactions are not as good as they used to be!
It is an arcade port so can confirm it will be autoscroll, which means if you miss your targets they are gone!

earok · 16 May 2023, 12:41

Damn, that's looking real good

jotd · 16 May 2023, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by acidbottle

I'm concerned I cannot source sfx for Breakthru though .. even just the fire/missile sfx!

you can't rip sounds from MAME? Need help?

saimon69 · 16 May 2023, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

you can't rip sounds from MAME? Need help?

I did not test the ROM yet, but if the sound test work would record with audacity

acidbottle · 16 May 2023, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

you can't rip sounds from MAME? Need help?

I would normally record from audacity but there is no separation from the music and sfx as far as I can tell. There is maybe a MAME build that can do this but have no idea how.

M1 is great but this title was sadly not supported.

Any help with the sfx would be amazing

jotd · 16 May 2023, 20:56

No, you have to reverse the game to some extent to remove the music. Not very easy actually. No service mode either. Damn...

dlfrsilver · 16 May 2023, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by acidbottle

I would normally record from audacity but there is no separation from the music and sfx as far as I can tell. There is maybe a MAME build that can do this but have no idea how.

M1 is great but this title was sadly not supported.

Any help with the sfx would be amazing

Let me have a look on the files !

jotd · 16 May 2023, 21:17

Found it while looking into MAME source code

Quote:

brkthru, brkthruj and brkthrut have a Self Test Mode not mentioned anywhere
in the manual. It is accessed by holding down both player 1 and player 2 start
buttons while powering up the game. It can be accessed in MAME by holding the
buttons down after the game has started then pressing F3 to reset the game.

Press 1+2 then F3. You get access to service mode. Then press 5 a couple of times aaaaand

sound test menu!! Press fire to play a sound. Some sounds are looped, so to rip the next one properly, press fire, then press "down" to replay current sound. There are 26 sounds (including stage musics)

Zoned the conversion to mono that I did.

10 minute job I didn't think it would be so easy!

saimon69 · 16 May 2023, 21:23

is OT but you know if there is a self test mode in Flying Shark too? Was unable to find it (my mame is quite old)

jotd · 16 May 2023, 21:31

Flysing Shark: I can't even start the ROM. The .zip files found on the web don't work.

saimon69 · 16 May 2023, 21:41

PM me and i can provide the ones i have, but my mame is REALLY old

dlfrsilver · 16 May 2023, 23:03

I have splitted the musics and sfx for Breakthru from the WAV made by JOTD

In the zone !

dlfrsilver · 16 May 2023, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Flysing Shark: I can't even start the ROM. The .zip files found on the web don't work.

it works here for me (i started quite a while ago ripping the gfx of the arcade game)

It has a service mode for sound.

acidbottle · 16 May 2023, 23:25

@jotd - amazing work in figuring that out, couldn't find that info anywhere and not for the want of looking either! Much appreciated, bt now has some sfx

@dlfsilver - fantastic thank you!

@saimon - can you please squash the track down from 9 channels to 3 to accommodate sfx

only kidding, but I do need to drop a channel (chose channel left2 for testing) so it didn't sound weird. Maybe earok can incorporate AHI support in the future

jotd · 16 May 2023, 23:31

I always had some luck with the various arcade ports sounds. Almost never had to hack the ROM to rip the sounds. For instance, on Amidar, the music doesn't start immediately, so you can trigger the sounds before it starts and you're good.

With some sfx it will add another dimension! Great job so far.

saimon69 · 16 May 2023, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by acidbottle

@jotd - amazing work in figuring that out, couldn't find that info anywhere and not for the want of looking either! Much appreciated, bt now has some sfx

@dlfsilver - fantastic thank you!

@saimon - can you please squash the track down from 9 channels to 3 to accommodate sfx

only kidding, but I do need to drop a channel (chose channel left2 for testing) so it didn't sound weird. Maybe earok can incorporate AHI support in the future

that MIGHT be a problem -_- i might put drums on the channel left2 so interruption does not affect too much

saimon69 · 16 May 2023, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

it works here for me (i started quite a while ago ripping the gfx of the arcade game)

It has a service mode for sound.

Was unable to access it from my MAME (0.100), can you do a grab in a wav file? (Talking about Flying Shark btw)

dlfrsilver · 17 May 2023, 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

Was unable to access it from my MAME (0.100), can you do a grab in a wav file? (Talking about Flying Shark btw)

Ok, i'll check that tomorrow

saimon69 · 18 May 2023, 01:02

PM me the outcome ^^

acidbottle · 31 January 2024, 08:36

It's nearly ready!

It will run on OCS/ECS but sadly it would need to be a suitably beefed up machine.

Will also need a 2 button controller, was a nightmare to play with k/board and joy combo so ditched single button.

Preview:

[ Show youtube player ]

16 May 2023, 10:38	#21
acidbottle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Scotland Posts: 841	@saimon - do not panic about any of the tracks, you have created a tonne so far and there is seriously no hurry here I'm concerned I cannot source sfx for Breakthru though .. even just the fire/missile sfx! @photon - thank you very much for the comments, hope this wil provide a bit of pick up and play fun. The arcade version can be pretty tough going, this version might be a snatch easier .. my reactions are not as good as they used to be! It is an arcade port so can confirm it will be autoscroll, which means if you miss your targets they are gone!

16 May 2023, 12:41	#22
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,547	Damn, that's looking real good

16 May 2023, 20:56	#26
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,360	No, you have to reverse the game to some extent to remove the music. Not very easy actually. No service mode either. Damn...

16 May 2023, 21:23	#29
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,590	is OT but you know if there is a self test mode in Flying Shark too? Was unable to find it (my mame is quite old)

16 May 2023, 21:31	#30
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,360	Flysing Shark: I can't even start the ROM. The .zip files found on the web don't work.

16 May 2023, 21:41	#31
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,590	PM me and i can provide the ones i have, but my mame is REALLY old

16 May 2023, 23:03	#32
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,505	I have splitted the musics and sfx for Breakthru from the WAV made by JOTD In the zone !

16 May 2023, 23:25	#34
acidbottle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Scotland Posts: 841	@jotd - amazing work in figuring that out, couldn't find that info anywhere and not for the want of looking either! Much appreciated, bt now has some sfx @dlfsilver - fantastic thank you! @saimon - can you please squash the track down from 9 channels to 3 to accommodate sfx only kidding, but I do need to drop a channel (chose channel left2 for testing) so it didn't sound weird. Maybe earok can incorporate AHI support in the future

16 May 2023, 23:31	#35
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,360	I always had some luck with the various arcade ports sounds. Almost never had to hack the ROM to rip the sounds. For instance, on Amidar, the music doesn't start immediately, so you can trigger the sounds before it starts and you're good. With some sfx it will add another dimension! Great job so far.

18 May 2023, 01:02	#39
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,590	PM me the outcome ^^

31 January 2024, 08:36	#40
acidbottle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Scotland Posts: 841	It's nearly ready! It will run on OCS/ECS but sadly it would need to be a suitably beefed up machine. Will also need a 2 button controller, was a nightmare to play with k/board and joy combo so ditched single button. Preview: [ Show youtube player ]

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