Annihilation - more artists wanted - Page 2

mrodfr · 18 November 2006, 17:30

hello,

OK. is blitz basic 2.1 unstable with 060, maybe the best is with amiblitz :-) yes, I know, I talk too much about amiblitz but I betatest and reports hits about actual version of amiblitz.

at least, download last version available on aminet. the version from the screenshot is beta actually but available on the beta site of the actual amiblitz programmer.

It's not possible to add a link (as the anhiliation archive) for the current gfx archive ???

Graham Humphrey · 18 November 2006, 17:39

I was going to download it but Aminet is down! (Or at least I can't access it.) Typical eh?

What do you mean by current gfx archive? If you mean Marco's Work In Progress archive, I don't think that's up at the moment (might be an idea to put it online again actually Marco)

.

mrodfr · 18 November 2006, 18:28

hello,

the real source for amiblitz last release is:

http://www.amiforce.de/amiblitz/ab_downloads.php

there is also a new english amiblitz forum on the amiforce/forum part. there is also a yahoogroups amiblitz ML. ASK if you want to know the amiblitz beta site.

yes, the archive with the gfx for the game. would like to take a look.

Graham Humphrey · 19 November 2006, 12:15

Thanks for the link. Graphics stuff in the zone.

mrodfr · 20 November 2006, 19:11

hello,

just take a look of the gfx. don't know how found colors must be used on the game (ship, enemy, background,...)???.

Marcuz · 20 November 2006, 19:56

ship: 4 colours (one of them transparent)
sprites 16 ( // )
bacgrounds 16

3 different palettes.
ship aside (right?), the palettes can change between the levels.
the palettes already done are in the iff images provided. a precisation: you cannot modify the backgrounds; you can of course throw them away and do yours, the same with the sprites already done by me, if used i only ask the graphic already done not to be modified. throw it away if you want so, or use it without mods

thank you!

Rebel-CD32 · 06 December 2006, 03:46

Are we still following the guidelines from Marco's concept and design document and drawings? If we are, I've started and will try my best to set aside more time to work on it from today forward.

First level, space. Broken ships, wreckage, crustacean-like space animals?

Graham Humphrey · 09 December 2006, 11:44

This isn't going to sound terribly helpful, but whatever's easier for you really. You don't have to follow it to the letter. If you have some ideas of your own feel free to use them. But if you want to stick to Marco's ideas then that's good too.

Basically, you're free to do it in any way you wish.

Marcuz · 09 December 2006, 17:00

yes, on my account, if that was a concern, suit yourself.

Mick_AKA · 11 January 2007, 00:00

As an artist I would really love to help but sadly I have zero experience with this type of graphical work

Marcuz · 11 January 2007, 02:05

if your need is for a way to adapt modern hardware and software to amigga needs, i can help, as i worked pretty much a workflow. sadly there lacks a tutorial about to create consistent tiles or consistent design or do a part of actual pixelwork. these 3 things are kinda out of my abilities too.

BippyM · 28 March 2007, 17:01

Graham what method are you using for the backgrounds etc.. scrolling a huuge bitmap or tiles?

Graham Humphrey · 28 March 2007, 17:26

I use tiles for the map graphics (16x16 pixels) which is what I'm after, I've got the actual backgrounds which are just a standard low-res screen that constantly scrolls. (The map gfx and the backgrounds are on separate playfields)

BippyM · 28 March 2007, 17:28

did you read the menace asm tutorial in amiga format?

There are a few good idea's and suggestions there (I can't draw for shit btw :P)

Graham Humphrey · 28 March 2007, 17:41

Thanks. I've actually got a few parts of that here somewhere, as far as actually scrolling the maps go though that's pretty much sorted out, it's just getting the ever-elusive graphics that's the problem. Anyway I know absolutely no assembly language in the slightest so I can't really make head nor tail of the code (although the general concepts are the same I guess).

I know you can use asm in Blitz, it could well help with the speed of the game, but I don't think it's feasible for me currently.

BippyM · 28 March 2007, 17:43

asm isn't easiest thing to learn, but there are good tutorials and alot of good resources available (just pm me).

I plan to do a game in asm one day (gotta learn about amiga hardware properly first) and i'd like to see a quick shooter

Graham Humphrey · 28 March 2007, 18:04

Cheers, PM sent!

starlord · 31 May 2007, 10:52

is the annihilation project still running?

Graham Humphrey · 31 May 2007, 10:58

See my PM

Rebel-CD32 · 23 June 2007, 22:06

Hey Graham. My PC is completely dead now, but I've got a laptop here to use now, so I wouldn't mind giving this another shot, if you're still interested.

I think I hesitated to start sooner because I'm not quite clear on exactly the sort of enemies to draw. How many, what size, what style you want to go for. I mean I have a bunch of ideas, but I need more direction, or a template to work from.

The last version of the game I installed on my PC and tried through UAE didnt work, although earlier versions did. I've also got my A1200 set up again now, but still have no way to transfer anything between the laptop and the Amiga. I'm working on getting a CF-IDE adapter though, which should help a bit.

Do you want this game to be a massive arcade quality game or a shareware quality game? Because I'm not sure how well I can draw horizontal spaceship sprites, but I do want to try.

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18 November 2006, 17:30	#21
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	hello, OK. is blitz basic 2.1 unstable with 060, maybe the best is with amiblitz :-) yes, I know, I talk too much about amiblitz but I betatest and reports hits about actual version of amiblitz. at least, download last version available on aminet. the version from the screenshot is beta actually but available on the beta site of the actual amiblitz programmer. It's not possible to add a link (as the anhiliation archive) for the current gfx archive ???

18 November 2006, 17:39	#22
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	I was going to download it but Aminet is down! (Or at least I can't access it.) Typical eh? What do you mean by current gfx archive? If you mean Marco's Work In Progress archive, I don't think that's up at the moment (might be an idea to put it online again actually Marco) .

18 November 2006, 18:28	#23
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	hello, the real source for amiblitz last release is: http://www.amiforce.de/amiblitz/ab_downloads.php there is also a new english amiblitz forum on the amiforce/forum part. there is also a yahoogroups amiblitz ML. ASK if you want to know the amiblitz beta site. yes, the archive with the gfx for the game. would like to take a look.

19 November 2006, 12:15	#24
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Thanks for the link. Graphics stuff in the zone.

20 November 2006, 19:11	#25
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	hello, just take a look of the gfx. don't know how found colors must be used on the game (ship, enemy, background,...)???.

20 November 2006, 19:56	#26
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	ship: 4 colours (one of them transparent) sprites 16 ( // ) bacgrounds 16 3 different palettes. ship aside (right?), the palettes can change between the levels. the palettes already done are in the iff images provided. a precisation: you cannot modify the backgrounds; you can of course throw them away and do yours, the same with the sprites already done by me, if used i only ask the graphic already done not to be modified. throw it away if you want so, or use it without mods thank you!

06 December 2006, 03:46	#27
Rebel-CD32 Amiga will never die! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 532	Are we still following the guidelines from Marco's concept and design document and drawings? If we are, I've started and will try my best to set aside more time to work on it from today forward. First level, space. Broken ships, wreckage, crustacean-like space animals?

09 December 2006, 11:44	#28
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	This isn't going to sound terribly helpful, but whatever's easier for you really. You don't have to follow it to the letter. If you have some ideas of your own feel free to use them. But if you want to stick to Marco's ideas then that's good too. Basically, you're free to do it in any way you wish.

09 December 2006, 17:00	#29
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	yes, on my account, if that was a concern, suit yourself.

11 January 2007, 00:00	#30
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	As an artist I would really love to help but sadly I have zero experience with this type of graphical work

11 January 2007, 02:05	#31
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	if your need is for a way to adapt modern hardware and software to amigga needs, i can help, as i worked pretty much a workflow. sadly there lacks a tutorial about to create consistent tiles or consistent design or do a part of actual pixelwork. these 3 things are kinda out of my abilities too.

28 March 2007, 17:01	#32
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Graham what method are you using for the backgrounds etc.. scrolling a huuge bitmap or tiles?

28 March 2007, 17:26	#33
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	I use tiles for the map graphics (16x16 pixels) which is what I'm after, I've got the actual backgrounds which are just a standard low-res screen that constantly scrolls. (The map gfx and the backgrounds are on separate playfields)

28 March 2007, 17:28	#34
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	did you read the menace asm tutorial in amiga format? There are a few good idea's and suggestions there (I can't draw for shit btw :P)

28 March 2007, 17:41	#35
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Thanks. I've actually got a few parts of that here somewhere, as far as actually scrolling the maps go though that's pretty much sorted out, it's just getting the ever-elusive graphics that's the problem. Anyway I know absolutely no assembly language in the slightest so I can't really make head nor tail of the code (although the general concepts are the same I guess). I know you can use asm in Blitz, it could well help with the speed of the game, but I don't think it's feasible for me currently.

28 March 2007, 17:43	#36
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	asm isn't easiest thing to learn, but there are good tutorials and alot of good resources available (just pm me). I plan to do a game in asm one day (gotta learn about amiga hardware properly first) and i'd like to see a quick shooter

28 March 2007, 18:04	#37
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Cheers, PM sent!

31 May 2007, 10:52	#38
starlord Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: france Posts: 209	is the annihilation project still running?

31 May 2007, 10:58	#39
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	See my PM

23 June 2007, 22:06	#40
Rebel-CD32 Amiga will never die! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 532	Hey Graham. My PC is completely dead now, but I've got a laptop here to use now, so I wouldn't mind giving this another shot, if you're still interested. I think I hesitated to start sooner because I'm not quite clear on exactly the sort of enemies to draw. How many, what size, what style you want to go for. I mean I have a bunch of ideas, but I need more direction, or a template to work from. The last version of the game I installed on my PC and tried through UAE didnt work, although earlier versions did. I've also got my A1200 set up again now, but still have no way to transfer anything between the laptop and the Amiga. I'm working on getting a CF-IDE adapter though, which should help a bit. Do you want this game to be a massive arcade quality game or a shareware quality game? Because I'm not sure how well I can draw horizontal spaceship sprites, but I do want to try.

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