US amiga 2000 to UK plug?! - Page 2

Fingerlickin_B · 11 February 2009, 00:53

Yeah, my A2000 is online.

Bad RAM configuration had it crashing until last night, but it works great now!

We need to find out what network card you have though...please check

PZ.

meega · 11 February 2009, 00:54

It's certainly possible, but most of the interwibble is just not "compatible" with such old kit.

Stick to simple pages, text-based things, IRC, that sort of thing, and it can do it fine. Don't forget that most people's internet connections are orders of magnitude slower than their hardware is capable of, so your having hardware that's only a little faster than the 'net connection speed is not necessarily a handicap.

CalvinH · 11 February 2009, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Yeah, my A2000 is online.

Bad RAM configuration had it crashing until last night, but it works great now!

We need to find out what network card you have though...please check

PZ.

I just opened it up, it is indeed an ethernet card. It reads:

ARIADNE, Amiga Ethernet, Village Tronic, 'V 1.2' ... Lots of chips read 'Halo' and TNT.

Fingerlickin_B · 11 February 2009, 01:06

Yep, I know of people using those to access the internet, you are set for da' net!

PZ.

alexh · 11 February 2009, 01:23

You have (going left to right):

First it looks like you've got a card in the CPU slot, impossible to see from behind, but there is definitely a card plugged in on the right hand side of the GVP SCSI.
A GVP HC8+ SCSI controller with HD & RAM (With the 25-way D external SCSI on the back).
A Max II Plus Mac Emulator card
The Video Toaster 2000 is next (looks a bit odd though, broken?)
Not sure, perhaps a Parallel port card? It's pretty big.
Finally the Ariadne Ethernet card.

CalvinH · 11 February 2009, 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

You have (going left to right):

* First it looks like you've got a card in the CPU slot, impossible to see from behind, but there is definitely a card plugged in on the right hand side of the GVP SCSI.
* A GVP HC8+ SCSI controller with HD & RAM (With the 25-way D external SCSI on the back).
* A Max II Plus Mac Emulator card
* The Video Toaster 2000 is next (looks a bit odd though, broken?)
* Not sure, perhaps a Parallel port card? It's pretty big.
* Finally the Ariadne Ethernet card.

I believe you are pretty much correct. The card you have higlighted as the GVP HC8+ seems to be that, it does have the harddrive attached to it, as I can see. I would have to unplug it to be certain.

Yes, my uncle has mentioned that he thought there was a PC emulator within the machine, I assume it is a mac emulator card then.

The next card I assume is the Video Toaster 2000, and it seems to have several daughter boards. I will have to take it off to fully inspect it.

The card with the parrel ports is actually the smallest card in the lot, and had come loose. I had to reattach it.

I will examine the cards and the machine in greater depth when I have time (I have just been shown how hard it is to reattach zorro boards).

Thanks for all the input!

alexh · 11 February 2009, 01:33

I've updated my post as I identified more...

If the parallel port card is the smallest, then what is the BLUE looking one, second from the right on the above photo?

CalvinH · 11 February 2009, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I've updated my post as I identified more...

If the parallel port card is the smallest, then what is the BLUE looking one, second from the right on the above photo?

Oh wait, my bad. You are correct more or less. In terms of length, it is rather long as opposed to the ethernet card.

The big blue card is infact the parallel port card.

However, in terms of width it is smaller than the others (see the first pic, notice the darkness).

Infact, the card has no hole on the top of it for me to put a screw into. Because of this, it sits rather loose.

I took this card out, to inspect it, and there are no markings besides the words 'foxconn'. Perhaps it is a graphics card?

PS: several screws were rattling around the machine. Must have come loose during transit. One is a jumper! Grr.

rkauer · 11 February 2009, 06:22

If the BNC card is a Toaster, then I know nothing about Amigas!

The Video Toaster 2000 is a board connected only to the video slot.

But there is/was a frame grabber who is Zorro slot only with the exact same backplate.

[EDIT] Found the exact model since I have one of those cards at home. It is a DPS Personal Animation Recorder DR-2150 or DR-3150, depending if it is NTSC or PAL.

rkauer · 11 February 2009, 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by meega

Something like this 100W voltage converter might be enough, but you will likely still need to deal with the 50/60Hz issues.

For an A2000, you need at least a 200W step down transformer. But replacing the entire PSU for an AT or ATX PSU is a better thing to do.

tin · 11 February 2009, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkauer

If the BNC card is a Toaster, then I know nothing about Amigas!

The Video Toaster 2000 is a board connected only to the video slot.

But there is/was a frame grabber who is Zorro slot only with the exact same backplate.

[EDIT] Found the exact model since I have one of those cards at home. It is a DPS Personal Animation Recorder DR-2150 or DR-3150, depending if it is NTSC or PAL.

That's more like it, was pondering as AFAIK the only toaster-ish card with the S-video at the top is the flyer and the board in CalvinH's pic doesn't have the myriad SCSI connectors on it.

rkauer · 11 February 2009, 08:52

Yeah, but that card have an IDE connector (shame it is dedicated just for frame grabbing, like the Flyer)

alexh · 11 February 2009, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalvinH

I took this card out, to inspect it, and there are no markings besides the words 'foxconn'.

Foxconn as the makers of connectors nothing more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalvinH

Perhaps it is a graphics card?

Nope. Provide photo's of both sides of the board on the bench and we'll identify it.

CalvinH · 12 February 2009, 00:08

Hey,

Thanks everyone for replying! All of them are appreciated! I have taken a few more photo's (some bad ones) of the cards to clear some things up. Thanks alot to alexh, who was able to identify a lot of the cards.

I haves spoken to my uncle and he tells me the machine was purchased for digital video editing and animation, in stuff like TV adds. The machine was originally purchased for $10,000 USD.

Anyway, here are the images. Please give them time to load and I apologise for the blurry ones:

Blue card:

http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...eCardFront.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...Midsection.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...lueCardEnd.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/BlueCardBack.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/BlueCardFront.jpg (Enlarged)

Animation Card:

http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...CardFront2.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...nCardFront.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...onCardBack.jpg (Enlarged)

CPU slot Card:

http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...tcardFront.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...otCardBack.jpg (Enlarged)

HDD Card:

http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/HddCardFront.jpg (Enlarged)
http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/HddCardBack.jpg (Enlarged)

DoogUK · 12 February 2009, 00:15

Nice accelerator...you have the PPS 040 @ 33mhz by the look of it, quite a nippy amiga

CalvinH · 12 February 2009, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoogUK

Nice accelerator...you have the PPS 040 @ 33mhz by the look of it, quite a nippy amiga

Aha thanks. The only thing that is bothering me is that there is no front bay drive, only a floppy disk drive. I guess I will have to get something to put in there. I have seen a few models with cd drives, is it possible to us cd drives in these machines?

alexh · 12 February 2009, 00:47

Sure but you'll need a SCSI one.

PPS 040 is quite rare AFAIK.

You need to learn how to use the MACRO feature of your camera for closeups in focus

Fingerlickin_B · 12 February 2009, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalvinH

is it possible to use cd drives in these machines?

Yes, you'll need one of the following:
a: A 50 pin SCSI CD drive to connect via your GVP.
b: An external SCSI CD drive to connect via same (but you want internal).
c: A Buddha IDE card to connect a cheap IDE CD drive.

PZ.

alexh · 12 February 2009, 00:59

The Blue card is an Impulse Firecracker24 24-bit framebuffer (sorta like a gfx card only crap, so you were right!)

CalvinH · 12 February 2009, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Sure but you'll need a SCSI one.

PPS 040 is quite rare AFAIK.

You need to learn how to use the MACRO feature of your camera for closeups in focus

Need to see what is written on the chips on the blue card to identify it.

Quite rare? I better take extra care with this machine!

As for the blue card, I have found some extra information. It reads 'Firecracker 24' and 'Impulse Inc' and it's revision 1.2. It was in some quite hard-to-read blue text.

And this is it: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha...cgi?HARDID=496

Edit: Beat me to it

11 February 2009, 01:23	#25
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,481	You have (going left to right): First it looks like you've got a card in the CPU slot, impossible to see from behind, but there is definitely a card plugged in on the right hand side of the GVP SCSI. A GVP HC8+ SCSI controller with HD & RAM (With the 25-way D external SCSI on the back). A Max II Plus Mac Emulator card The Video Toaster 2000 is next (looks a bit odd though, broken?) Not sure, perhaps a Parallel port card? It's pretty big. Finally the Ariadne Ethernet card. Last edited by alexh; 11 February 2009 at 01:31.

11 February 2009, 06:22	#29
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	If the BNC card is a Toaster, then I know nothing about Amigas! The Video Toaster 2000 is a board connected only to the video slot. But there is/was a frame grabber who is Zorro slot only with the exact same backplate. [EDIT] Found the exact model since I have one of those cards at home. It is a DPS Personal Animation Recorder DR-2150 or DR-3150, depending if it is NTSC or PAL. Last edited by rkauer; 11 February 2009 at 06:30.

12 February 2009, 00:08	#34
CalvinH Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: England Posts: 17	Hey, Thanks everyone for replying! All of them are appreciated! I have taken a few more photo's (some bad ones) of the cards to clear some things up. Thanks alot to alexh, who was able to identify a lot of the cards. I haves spoken to my uncle and he tells me the machine was purchased for digital video editing and animation, in stuff like TV adds. The machine was originally purchased for $10,000 USD. Anyway, here are the images. Please give them time to load and I apologise for the blurry ones: Blue card: http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...eCardFront.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...Midsection.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...lueCardEnd.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/BlueCardBack.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/BlueCardFront.jpg (Enlarged) Animation Card: http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...CardFront2.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...nCardFront.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...onCardBack.jpg (Enlarged) CPU slot Card: http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...tcardFront.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga...otCardBack.jpg (Enlarged) HDD Card: http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/HddCardFront.jpg (Enlarged) http://www.freiheit-coding.org/amiga/HddCardBack.jpg (Enlarged) Last edited by CalvinH; 12 February 2009 at 00:14.

12 February 2009, 00:47	#37
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,481	Sure but you'll need a SCSI one. PPS 040 is quite rare AFAIK. You need to learn how to use the MACRO feature of your camera for closeups in focus Last edited by alexh; 12 February 2009 at 00:59.

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11 February 2009, 00:53	#21
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Yeah, my A2000 is online. Bad RAM configuration had it crashing until last night, but it works great now! We need to find out what network card you have though...please check PZ.

11 February 2009, 00:54	#22
meega Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oooh what a feeling yeaaah dancing on the ceiling Posts: 314	It's certainly possible, but most of the interwibble is just not "compatible" with such old kit. Stick to simple pages, text-based things, IRC, that sort of thing, and it can do it fine. Don't forget that most people's internet connections are orders of magnitude slower than their hardware is capable of, so your having hardware that's only a little faster than the 'net connection speed is not necessarily a handicap.

11 February 2009, 01:06	#24
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Yep, I know of people using those to access the internet, you are set for da' net! PZ.

11 February 2009, 01:33	#27
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,481	I've updated my post as I identified more... If the parallel port card is the smallest, then what is the BLUE looking one, second from the right on the above photo?

11 February 2009, 08:52	#32
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Yeah, but that card have an IDE connector (shame it is dedicated just for frame grabbing, like the Flyer)

12 February 2009, 00:15	#35
DoogUK Doogster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,069	Nice accelerator...you have the PPS 040 @ 33mhz by the look of it, quite a nippy amiga

12 February 2009, 00:59	#39
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,481	The Blue card is an Impulse Firecracker24 24-bit framebuffer (sorta like a gfx card only crap, so you were right!)

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