256K Amiga 1000 Games - Page 2

TjLaZer · 08 October 2018, 00:23

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Originally Posted by NorthWay

You what?

That game has so far been impossible to find anywhere. Clues gratefully accepted.

It’s been found. Check EAB The Zone!

Minuous · 08 October 2018, 05:09

I just tried Transylvania 1 and Nebulus 1 and neither will run in 256K.

roondar · 08 October 2018, 10:27

I never knew Hacker & Hacker 2 were also available on the Amiga. I might check them out, liked those a lot on the C64.

Seiya · 08 October 2018, 11:38

yeah, hacker run also with 256k. Nice

Excellent thread to search how many games can run on Amiga 1000.

desiv · 08 October 2018, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Seiya

yeah, hacker run also with 256k. Nice

Excellent thread to search how many games can run on Amiga 1000.

Well, virtually every Amiga 1000 owner got the 256k upgrade, so they could run many more games than this.

But I agree, excellent thread.. ;-)

Don_Adan · 08 October 2018, 22:19

If I remember right Defender Of The Crown can works with 256KB only.

Seiya · 09 October 2018, 00:30

I try with WinUAE DotC with 256k and i got an "Out of Memory".

Don_Adan · 09 October 2018, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Seiya

I try with WinUAE DotC with 256k and i got an "Out of Memory".

i found, but not try myself:

Delta Patrol - 1985
YacthC - 1985

Ok, then maybe Im wrong, or you must have version from 1986 year.

Seiya · 09 October 2018, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Ok, then maybe Im wrong, or you must have version from 1986 year.

sorry, you have reply very soon, but i check better and Delta Patrol don't start with 256k or memory. At least start and load workbench screen, but then you have no more memory to start from icon.

desiv · 09 October 2018, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Seiya

sorry, you have reply very soon, but i check better and Delta Patrol don't start with 256k or memory. At least start and load workbench screen, but then you have no more memory to start from icon.

What if you don't load WB? Just boot and launch the game directly.
I would imagine that was how the game might have been originally distributed.

jotd · 09 October 2018, 20:54

Rise of the Robots ?

Minuous · 09 October 2018, 20:58

@jotd:

No.

jotd · 09 October 2018, 22:43

sorry, trolling with Rise of the robots again...

Seiya · 10 October 2018, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

What if you don't load WB? Just boot and launch the game directly.
I would imagine that was how the game might have been originally distributed.

Delta Patrol in the Tosec load in worbench minimal environment and then you have to double click its icon to start.

desiv · 10 October 2018, 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiya

Delta Patrol in the Tosec load in worbench minimal environment and then you have to double click its icon to start.

Yep, but you can just CTRL-D while it is booting to not load the startup-sequence (so not load workbench).
But I just did that with a 256k WinUAE machine and I get Error 103 (not enough memory).
So Delta Patrol needs more than 256k also...

jotd · 10 October 2018, 06:30

doesn't this ADD21k script work on 256k env. ? 21k is 10% of the total machine memory could be worth a shot for those borderline games.

DamienD · 10 October 2018, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiya

Delta Patrol in the Tosec load in worbench minimal environment and then you have to double click its icon to start.

I'm sure WB isn't needed, just modify the startup-sequence to skip and load the game directly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

doesn't this ADD21k script work on 256k env. ? 21k is 10% of the total machine memory could be worth a shot for those borderline games.

...or maybe even add44k

Amigajay · 24 January 2024, 20:16

Digging up an old thread to post a comprehensive list of 256K compatible games in the first post.

Megalomaniac · 24 January 2024, 21:34

Presumably developers moved on to 512k this quickly because 256k just wasn't enough for the Amiga hardware to 'breathe' and have any real use made of it? Same goes for the 128k in the original Macintosh I guess. The Infocom games aside there's nothing impressive for a 256k Amiga really - you were still better off with an 8-bit at that point.

I wonder whether it would be possible to redesign typical 512k Amiga games to run in 256k, or specifically develop a 256k game as a challenge? How much work would it take to get simpler early 512k games like Bubble Bobble, IK+ or Arkanoid to run on it? Presumably it'd mean losing any music, certainly limiting to 16 colours, and probably more loading as well.

Amiga Lifestyle · 24 January 2024, 23:05

Hack (the precursor to Nethack) featured on a very early Fred Fish disk. Might be worth checking?

09 October 2018, 00:30	#27
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,436	I try with WinUAE DotC with 256k and i got an "Out of Memory". Last edited by Seiya; 09 October 2018 at 00:44.

24 January 2024, 21:34	#39
Megalomaniac Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 1,073	Presumably developers moved on to 512k this quickly because 256k just wasn't enough for the Amiga hardware to 'breathe' and have any real use made of it? Same goes for the 128k in the original Macintosh I guess. The Infocom games aside there's nothing impressive for a 256k Amiga really - you were still better off with an 8-bit at that point. I wonder whether it would be possible to redesign typical 512k Amiga games to run in 256k, or specifically develop a 256k game as a challenge? How much work would it take to get simpler early 512k games like Bubble Bobble, IK+ or Arkanoid to run on it? Presumably it'd mean losing any music, certainly limiting to 16 colours, and probably more loading as well. Last edited by Megalomaniac; 24 January 2024 at 21:44.

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08 October 2018, 05:09	#22
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,669	I just tried Transylvania 1 and Nebulus 1 and neither will run in 256K.

08 October 2018, 10:27	#23
roondar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,436	I never knew Hacker & Hacker 2 were also available on the Amiga. I might check them out, liked those a lot on the C64.

08 October 2018, 11:38	#24
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,436	yeah, hacker run also with 256k. Nice Excellent thread to search how many games can run on Amiga 1000.

08 October 2018, 22:19	#26
Don_Adan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 56 Posts: 2,033	If I remember right Defender Of The Crown can works with 256KB only.

09 October 2018, 20:54	#31
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,360	Rise of the Robots ?

09 October 2018, 20:58	#32
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,669	@jotd: No.

09 October 2018, 22:43	#33
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,360	sorry, trolling with Rise of the robots again...

10 October 2018, 06:30	#36
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,360	doesn't this ADD21k script work on 256k env. ? 21k is 10% of the total machine memory could be worth a shot for those borderline games.

24 January 2024, 20:16	#38
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,941	Digging up an old thread to post a comprehensive list of 256K compatible games in the first post.

24 January 2024, 23:05	#40
Amiga Lifestyle Registered User Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: US Posts: 47	Hack (the precursor to Nethack) featured on a very early Fred Fish disk. Might be worth checking?

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