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Thanks for all your answers, and again thank you for the update, it is much appreciated. Darren |
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An easy way to clone the WB is to open a file in Multiview and select the 'Use Separate Screen' option. Last edited by nogginthenog; 26 October 2020 at 19:07. Reason: typo |
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guess I read only the half... but...
... I could drag my Picasso screen down all the time!? What did I miss? |
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1) A supported graphics card/chipset that can actually do screen dragging 2) The card driver/software has been updated to support dragging (new API calls needed) 3) A bunch of other limitations due to the VGA chipsets (see docs/faq) 3rd party cards, which include the 3DFX Voodoo cards, mnt cards (ZZ9000), etc, do not have upgraded drivers yet, so no screen dragging until (or if/when) their drivers are upgraded by the 3rd party suppliers. It was mentioned the developer documentation to do this is free and available. I would note that this behaviour is *not the same* as the default behaviour of screen dragging with Amiga chips nor with CyberGraphX - both of which allow you to drag the screen down even if no other screens are open. As was discussed there is really no *benefit* of being able to drag a screen down (with nothing behind it), other than the "cool" factor. You could argue it is part of the "Amiga experience", I guess. Something you would often show friends who had never seen it before. But again, without another screen behind it...it technically isn't buying you anything Although I would personally say I was disappointed after installing P96 3.0 when I tried it and it didn't work. Darren |
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SetSplitPosition: Synopsis:SetSplitPosition(bi,ypos); Inputs:a0:struct BoardInfo *bi d0.w:ypos This function sets the vertical position at which the screen shall be split. That is, if the line number given by the second argument is reached, the raster pointer shall be reset to address 0. A value of 0 indicates that screen splitting shall be disabled. The rtg.library arranges the screen such that the topmost screen is started at the memory computed by SetPanning(), and the bottommost screen starts at address 0. In particular, the rtg.library ensures that the bottommost screen does not pan and uses the same RGBFormat than the topmost screen. This function is used to implement screen dragging. It is only called if the BIB_VGASCREENSPLIT flag in BoardInfo->Flags is set. This function is new in version 42 (3.0) of the rtg.library. |
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Great, thanks for pasting. But I'm still confused because I'm sure that text isn't in the archive that's on the icomp wiki! Download the lha file at http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/File:CardDevelop.lha dated 24 October 2020, then: > lha x CardDevelop.lha > grep -rl Split Picasso96Develop Picasso96Develop/HardWare/CirrusGD5434.chip.asm Picasso96Develop/PrivateInclude/boardinfo.i Picasso96Develop/PrivateInclude/boardinfo.h The version number at the head of CARDDEVELOP.HTML is 0.9 - is that right? Edit: MD5 of CardDevelop.lha, in case there's some weird webserver caching glitch going on or something: cb8fa4ab324620b5318616b973e970b5 Last edited by robinsonb5; 26 October 2020 at 23:21. |
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So I tried opening a jpeg on a separate screen and screen dragging still did not work. Not sure what I am doing wrong. I am using a CV3D gfx card.
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Why isn't UAE supported properly anymore? According to http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/P96 it seems to require copying and renaming of random files, editing of their tooltypes, choosing the wrong graphics card, and then ignoring warnings. Hardly a smooth installation.
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I never said they were.
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Then the answer is "UAE is supported properly", just not by iComp. Does this answer your question? To install a 3rd party driver, use the P96 installation, select none of the graphics boards offered (no item checked), complete the installation, then follow the installation instructions of the 3rd party.
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I do not know what your workbench screen mode is, and what your picture datatype is, and what the picture is. If the picture is a JPEG, and the datatype is that from 3.1.4, then Multiview will open a true color screen. If your workbench is not a true color screen, then these modes cannot be mixed.
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Not really, because P96 supports various boards from various manufacturers, regardless of whether iComp has the copyright on those boards or not. So it seems to be that dislike of emulation is why users of the most-used "board" have to resort to workarounds.
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That is not the copyright on the board. That is the copyright on the code. There is no conspiracy here concerning emulation or not. Toni was on board during the development, just that iComp cannot include the drivers. The original UAE drivers are (c) Brian King, Cloanto.
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OK, but if it is just a "generic loader, which is identical for all P96 drivers" how are Brian King and/or Cloanto able to claim copyright on it?
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