KarlosTKG now on GitHub

[Karlos]

Can you tell what it is, yet... ?

[Samurai_Crow]

Originally Posted by Karlos

Can you tell what it is, yet... ?

Looks cool! Does it work better than the previous one?

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by Karlos

Can you tell what it is, yet... ?

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This area made using LevelEd 304

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Crow

Looks cool! Does it work better than the previous one?

Well, it cuts a few trip wires before it saves, so there is that.

[abu_the_monkey]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

Just as a sanity check I think I will build and compare the original code.

forgot, I can't do that as I am missing the 'DOOM_Music_Extension' v2.0


scratch that, frakswe just sent me a link to a copy of it

[abu_the_monkey]

Originally Posted by Karlos

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This area made using LevelEd 304

[Karlos]

I pushed changes to Level M (which was almost entirely made of textures that needed replacing) which includes some new secret bits. It's still not considered finished but the new bits were built with LevelEd 304.

[abu_the_monkey]

ok, so I built the original v303 and it did produce a different sized binary to the one from aminet. I can only assume it is an extension or a compiler option

either way it seems to work.

converting to and from AMOS/ASCII seems not to work so well

[Karlos]

Some things I've noticed are nonfunctional (also in 303)

Can't assign aliens to teams.
Can't assign the initial target control point for an alien.

[Karlos]

We might be able to make a change to both the editor and the engine for a new feature: doors that can be opened by aliens. One or the longstanding complaints about the game AI was that aliens can't open doors. What I propose is that we allow selected doors to be openable by aliens in levels created in 304 for our new build. That way we don't break backwards compatibility.

[abu_the_monkey]

Originally Posted by Karlos

Some things I've noticed are nonfunctional (also in 303)

Can't assign aliens to teams.
Can't assign the initial target control point for an alien.

Originally Posted by Karlos

We might be able to make a change to both the editor and the engine for a new feature: doors that can be opened by aliens. One or the longstanding complaints about the game AI was that aliens can't open doors. What I propose is that we allow selected doors to be openable by aliens in levels created in 304 for our new build. That way we don't break backwards compatibility.

I have added these to the snag list.

[Karlos]

After a significant grind, the reworked level M is ready for playtesting.

I did find a very interesting bug that doesn't seem to be leveled 304s fault. I can't tell if the bug is in the editor or the game. I added a secret area that was hidden behind lift L, however I coupe not get this lift to lock at all, even when held by multiple objects. I had to change it to be a door. Yet in other levels there are lifts held by objects, so perhaps there is a bug with lift slots above a certain number.

[Karlos]

Started reskinning N (just to replace the deprecated textures with their relocated versions). It's another level that's extremely monotonously textured and hasn't had any prior work done at any point "back in the day".

[abu_the_monkey]

Originally Posted by Karlos

After a significant grind, the reworked level M is ready for playtesting.

I did find a very interesting bug that doesn't seem to be leveled 304s fault. I can't tell if the bug is in the editor or the game. I added a secret area that was hidden behind lift L, however I coupe not get this lift to lock at all, even when held by multiple objects. I had to change it to be a door. Yet in other levels there are lifts held by objects, so perhaps there is a bug with lift slots above a certain number.

added to the snag list.

hopefully I will get some time to give your latest changes a test run this evening.

[Karlos]

Once I've done with the replacing of deprecated textures, I can begin changing/replacing bits of the game. I always thought the last level was really disappointing. I mean I do like the boss, but the whole level is just you being stuck in an arena with it and his four annoying mates.

I would rather have something you fight your way through, building up to that sucker at the end.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

hopefully I will get some time to give your latest changes a test run this evening.

I've completed M from a pistol only start. It was... tricky... but possible.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

added to the snag list.

hopefully I will get some time to give your latest changes a test run this evening.

So...

I have a request for a feature that would make level editing somewhat easier, especially outdoors:

1. Select a Zone
2. Enter a lighting direction, specified in degrees, where 0 = From East, 90 = From North, 180 = From West, 270 From South.
3. Enter three wall brightness displacement values, base, min and max, where min <= base <= max.

Each wall in the zone will then have it's brightness displacement calculated as the base value plus an adjustment based on the min, max and the angle the wall makes with the lighting direction:

When the wall is parallel (or antiparallel) to the lighting direction, the wall brightness displacement is just the base value, i.e. pure ambient with no effect from the lighting.

When the wall is perpendicular to and facing towards the lighting direction, the brightness displacement value is max.

When the wall is perpendicular and facing away from the lighting direction, the brightness value is min.

The values for every other angle follow some pretty basic 2D vector arithmetic but you can also just use the sine of the angle between the wall and the lighting direction and based on the sign of the output, scale to the min and max accordingly.

Note that (because... reasons), negative brightness displacements brighten the wall, positive brightness displacements darken it.

[abu_the_monkey]

Originally Posted by Karlos

I have a request for a feature that would make level editing somewhat easier, especially outdoors:

added to the snag list.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

added to the snag list.

You might want a separate list for feature requests. Given I have no idea what the code looks like, I don't know if I am asking for something sensible, or the moon on a stick.

Do you plan to put this on github or similar? Even if you can't really version control the tokenised source code, you can still make use of the issues tools and branches when working on stuff.

[Karlos]

I found a few more deprecated textures in J and M. Pushed fixes and some adjustments. There's now a bit more variety of ways to attack in the "outside" areas of level M and you can find a shotgun from pistol start now in J.