Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 18

jack-3d · 24 February 2017, 23:13

I am stuck with Radeon now, anytime I plug it to the Amiga, I get flashing RED screen. When I exchange it with Voodoo then no problem and boot continues. I am using Radeon 9200 256 MB. Also I removed all cards from PCI and Zorro, still RED screen flashing. Giving up now, will try during weekend when I get better mood and read some more manuals.

starship · 24 February 2017, 23:32

4.Ram Disk:> pciinfo

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $1057
VendorName: Unknown
DeviceID: $4
DeviceName: Unknown
ClassCode: $e0001
RevisionID: $12
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $0
SubsystemID: $0
MemSpace1: $60000000 - $60000fff

Pci Device 2:
VendorID: $1002
VendorName: Unknown
DeviceID: $5964
DeviceName: Unknown
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 4
SubsystemVendorID: $148c
SubsystemID: $2073
MemSpace0: $68000000 - $6fffffff
IOSpace1: $40c06000 - $40c060ff
MemSpace2: $60100000 - $6010ffff
RomSpace: $60200000 - $6021ffff

Pci Device 3:
VendorID: $1002
VendorName: Unknown
DeviceID: $5d44
DeviceName: Unknown
ClassCode: $38000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 0
SubsystemVendorID: $148c
SubsystemID: $2072
MemSpace0: $70000000 - $77ffffff
MemSpace1: $60300000 - $6030ffff

starship · 24 February 2017, 23:34

Everything is unknown i think sonnet.library coludnt found vendor . But radeon is working.

strim · 24 February 2017, 23:38

I see what you did there, your model of Radeon is not supported by sonnet.library. Currently only Radeon models with ID $5960 and $5C63 are supported, as you can read here (see "hardware" section).

Possibly adding support for your model of Radeon won't be that difficult.

starship · 24 February 2017, 23:52

Oh

( i waited too long for this card. Ok
Thank you

grelbfarlk · 25 February 2017, 00:15

At least finding another Radeon 9200 shouldn't be very hard or expensive, they usually cost only $25USD or so. I'd recommend looking for a card from Sapphire.

Or if you're willing to live dangerously you could try to flash the BIOS of the Radeon card to one of the compatible models.

starship · 25 February 2017, 00:26

Oh? When i flash the bios from pc, it can init?

grelbfarlk · 25 February 2017, 01:14

Well the bios on your card is probably from a PC or possibly a Mac. By flashing a different BIOS from a card which has the correct PCIID, it might work. Or you may find that you can't find a compatible BIOS for your card. I had to do the same on one of my 256MB Radeons, it wasn't recognized by the Mediator at all.

Then on the first BIOS I tried only 128MB was available of 256MB, but the next BIOS I tried all 256MB was available, though I think Elbox eventually fixed the issue where both 128MB banks were available.

There is a certain amount of risk you will pick a very wrong BIOS which won't let you reflash and then it's basically broke. But that's probably not very likely to happen. The ATIFlash tool should let you backup your BIOS before you flash a new one. Also you might have the option if you have a 256MB card to flash with 128MB version so you can put more RAM on the Sonnet.

You'll need to do the flashing in a PC. Not my fault if you break your card, as I said it is living dangerously.

strim · 25 February 2017, 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Well the bios on your card is probably from a PC or possibly a Mac. By flashing a different BIOS...

Hmm... I was under impression that on Radeons the device ID is hard coded in the GPU chip and independent from BIOS image.

AFAIR on Amiga 68k the Radeon's BIOS is never even started, it just sits there and the whole GPU bringup is done by the AmigaOS driver (radeon.card). Note that that on next-gen machines Radeon BIOS typically is executed at the firmware level (both ACube's U-Boot and Genesi OpenFirmware include x86 emulators for this purpose).

grelbfarlk · 25 February 2017, 04:04

The actual BIOS data yes, but on the Mediator none of the BIOS is actually used to bring up the display on bootup. The part that IS used however is reading the Vendor and Device string which I'm pretty sure is written to the BIOS. On Wintel machines you need the BIOS to start a basic display for the motherboard BIOS to start.

Maybe I should say ROM instead of BIOS. I figured that was the only way the ATI Radeon BIOS editors could work, some of the variables they let you change are the Vendor and Device ID.

Of course this will not work if you change it to Device ID from 9200 to 9250, or some combination that the driver is expecting one GPU and tries to load another-but I doubt anything that sophisticated is going on. I think the BIOS may control memory speed or some such as well.

One tool like this:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta...os_editor.html

I'm not recommending trying to edit the BIOS but just find an archive of the BIOS (here I go again) or ROM of one of the well supported cards.

starship · 25 February 2017, 10:07

Thank you

Hedeon · 25 February 2017, 22:17

@starship

Please give me the VendorID and DeviceID of the Radeon card (or give me the output of pciinfo). I guess this particular card is not supported (yet), seeing the error you are getting.

Hedeon · 25 February 2017, 22:18

whoops. I didn't see this page

Hedeon · 25 February 2017, 22:24

To get rid of the unknowns. Install vendor.txt in S: (it's on the Elbox site)

Busy with an update. Check Git tomorrow

starship · 26 February 2017, 00:40

Oh ok thank you

checking tomorrow.

starship · 26 February 2017, 01:16

I added vendor.txt to s:
Here is my new info.

4.Ram Disk:> pciinfo

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $1057
VendorName: Motorola
DeviceID: $4
DeviceName: MPC107 PCI Bridge/Memory Controller for PPC
ClassCode: $e0001
RevisionID: $12
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $0
SubsystemID: $0
MemSpace1: $60000000 - $60000fff

Pci Device 2:
VendorID: $1002
VendorName: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
DeviceID: $5964
DeviceName: Radeon 9200 Radeon 9200 SE Series
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 4
SubsystemVendorID: $148c
SubsystemID: $2073
MemSpace0: $68000000 - $6fffffff
IOSpace1: $40c06000 - $40c060ff
MemSpace2: $60100000 - $6010ffff
RomSpace: $60200000 - $6021ffff

Pci Device 3:
VendorID: $1002
VendorName: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
DeviceID: $5d44
DeviceName: RV280 Radeon 9200 SE Series - Secondary
ClassCode: $38000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 0
SubsystemVendorID: $148c
SubsystemID: $2072
MemSpace0: $70000000 - $77ffffff
MemSpace1: $60300000 - $6030ffff

Mediator from down to up
1. logic interface
2. empty
3. empty
4. sonnet 7200
5. radeon 9200

Hedeon · 26 February 2017, 11:46

I added $5964 as being supported. I still recommend getting a Voodoo3 card as 3DFX cards are the only ones supporting Warp3D. Also Radeon cards use up a lot of the available PCI memory space. Only 128MB remains for the sonnet (so 192MB on the sonnet will be seen as 128MB).

starship · 26 February 2017, 11:50

Oh ok I am going to github now

starship · 26 February 2017, 12:17

Added sonnet memory to system without error. Perfect
On getinfo, showing sonnet cpu: ppc 750 cpu clock:500mhz
I am trying to run amp2-wos , frogger-wos earth2140wos
But not working.
I must patch amp2 with sonnetpatch.
Something like this
Sonnetpatch -p0,1,2,3,4,5 amp ampsonnet
And I must read what is sonnetpatch

thank you very much again hedeon

starship · 26 February 2017, 13:16

Do I need orijinal ppc.library to patch and add to libs: ?
And rename it to powerpc.library?
Whichamiga doesnt show co-processor only 68k
Need I patch whichamiga?

25 February 2017, 00:15	#346
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,976	At least finding another Radeon 9200 shouldn't be very hard or expensive, they usually cost only $25USD or so. I'd recommend looking for a card from Sapphire. Or if you're willing to live dangerously you could try to flash the BIOS of the Radeon card to one of the compatible models. Last edited by grelbfarlk; 25 February 2017 at 00:17. Reason: One more bad suggestion

25 February 2017, 00:26	#347
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Oh? When i flash the bios from pc, it can init? Last edited by starship; 25 February 2017 at 00:47.

25 February 2017, 22:24	#354
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,055	To get rid of the unknowns. Install vendor.txt in S: (it's on the Elbox site) Busy with an update. Check Git tomorrow Last edited by Hedeon; 26 February 2017 at 00:23.

26 February 2017, 12:17	#359
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Added sonnet memory to system without error. Perfect On getinfo, showing sonnet cpu: ppc 750 cpu clock:500mhz I am trying to run amp2-wos , frogger-wos earth2140wos But not working. I must patch amp2 with sonnetpatch. Something like this Sonnetpatch -p0,1,2,3,4,5 amp ampsonnet And I must read what is sonnetpatch thank you very much again hedeon Last edited by starship; 26 February 2017 at 12:50.

26 February 2017, 13:16	#360
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Do I need orijinal ppc.library to patch and add to libs: ? And rename it to powerpc.library? Whichamiga doesnt show co-processor only 68k Need I patch whichamiga? Last edited by starship; 26 February 2017 at 16:24.

24 February 2017, 23:13	#341
jack-3d kLiker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brno / Czech Republic Posts: 371	I am stuck with Radeon now, anytime I plug it to the Amiga, I get flashing RED screen. When I exchange it with Voodoo then no problem and boot continues. I am using Radeon 9200 256 MB. Also I removed all cards from PCI and Zorro, still RED screen flashing. Giving up now, will try during weekend when I get better mood and read some more manuals.

24 February 2017, 23:32	#342
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	4.Ram Disk:> pciinfo Pci Device 1: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $4 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $e0001 RevisionID: $12 InterruptPin: 2 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $0 MemSpace1: $60000000 - $60000fff Pci Device 2: VendorID: $1002 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $5964 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $30000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 4 SubsystemVendorID: $148c SubsystemID: $2073 MemSpace0: $68000000 - $6fffffff IOSpace1: $40c06000 - $40c060ff MemSpace2: $60100000 - $6010ffff RomSpace: $60200000 - $6021ffff Pci Device 3: VendorID: $1002 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $5d44 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $38000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $148c SubsystemID: $2072 MemSpace0: $70000000 - $77ffffff MemSpace1: $60300000 - $6030ffff

24 February 2017, 23:34	#343
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Everything is unknown i think sonnet.library coludnt found vendor . But radeon is working.

24 February 2017, 23:38	#344
strim NetBSD developer Join Date: May 2012 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 411	I see what you did there, your model of Radeon is not supported by sonnet.library. Currently only Radeon models with ID $5960 and $5C63 are supported, as you can read here (see "hardware" section). Possibly adding support for your model of Radeon won't be that difficult.

24 February 2017, 23:52	#345
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Oh ( i waited too long for this card. Ok Thank you

25 February 2017, 01:14	#348
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,976	Well the bios on your card is probably from a PC or possibly a Mac. By flashing a different BIOS from a card which has the correct PCIID, it might work. Or you may find that you can't find a compatible BIOS for your card. I had to do the same on one of my 256MB Radeons, it wasn't recognized by the Mediator at all. Then on the first BIOS I tried only 128MB was available of 256MB, but the next BIOS I tried all 256MB was available, though I think Elbox eventually fixed the issue where both 128MB banks were available. There is a certain amount of risk you will pick a very wrong BIOS which won't let you reflash and then it's basically broke. But that's probably not very likely to happen. The ATIFlash tool should let you backup your BIOS before you flash a new one. Also you might have the option if you have a 256MB card to flash with 128MB version so you can put more RAM on the Sonnet. You'll need to do the flashing in a PC. Not my fault if you break your card, as I said it is living dangerously.

25 February 2017, 04:04	#350
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,976	The actual BIOS data yes, but on the Mediator none of the BIOS is actually used to bring up the display on bootup. The part that IS used however is reading the Vendor and Device string which I'm pretty sure is written to the BIOS. On Wintel machines you need the BIOS to start a basic display for the motherboard BIOS to start. Maybe I should say ROM instead of BIOS. I figured that was the only way the ATI Radeon BIOS editors could work, some of the variables they let you change are the Vendor and Device ID. Of course this will not work if you change it to Device ID from 9200 to 9250, or some combination that the driver is expecting one GPU and tries to load another-but I doubt anything that sophisticated is going on. I think the BIOS may control memory speed or some such as well. One tool like this: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta...os_editor.html I'm not recommending trying to edit the BIOS but just find an archive of the BIOS (here I go again) or ROM of one of the well supported cards.

25 February 2017, 10:07	#351
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Thank you

25 February 2017, 22:17	#352
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,055	@starship Please give me the VendorID and DeviceID of the Radeon card (or give me the output of pciinfo). I guess this particular card is not supported (yet), seeing the error you are getting.

25 February 2017, 22:18	#353
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,055	whoops. I didn't see this page

26 February 2017, 00:40	#355
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Oh ok thank you checking tomorrow.

26 February 2017, 01:16	#356
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	I added vendor.txt to s: Here is my new info. 4.Ram Disk:> pciinfo Pci Device 1: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $4 DeviceName: MPC107 PCI Bridge/Memory Controller for PPC ClassCode: $e0001 RevisionID: $12 InterruptPin: 3 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $0 MemSpace1: $60000000 - $60000fff Pci Device 2: VendorID: $1002 VendorName: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. DeviceID: $5964 DeviceName: Radeon 9200 Radeon 9200 SE Series ClassCode: $30000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 4 SubsystemVendorID: $148c SubsystemID: $2073 MemSpace0: $68000000 - $6fffffff IOSpace1: $40c06000 - $40c060ff MemSpace2: $60100000 - $6010ffff RomSpace: $60200000 - $6021ffff Pci Device 3: VendorID: $1002 VendorName: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. DeviceID: $5d44 DeviceName: RV280 Radeon 9200 SE Series - Secondary ClassCode: $38000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $148c SubsystemID: $2072 MemSpace0: $70000000 - $77ffffff MemSpace1: $60300000 - $6030ffff Mediator from down to up 1. logic interface 2. empty 3. empty 4. sonnet 7200 5. radeon 9200

26 February 2017, 11:46	#357
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,055	I added $5964 as being supported. I still recommend getting a Voodoo3 card as 3DFX cards are the only ones supporting Warp3D. Also Radeon cards use up a lot of the available PCI memory space. Only 128MB remains for the sonnet (so 192MB on the sonnet will be seen as 128MB).

26 February 2017, 11:50	#358
starship Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: turkiye Posts: 213	Oh ok I am going to github now

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