Expansion board for the CD32 - Page 162

plasmab · 16 January 2018, 12:52

The drivers will be the same

solidcore · 16 January 2018, 13:22

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Originally Posted by plasmab

The drivers will be the same

Sorry for confusion but I'm aware the drivers will be same, meant tf530 as a path to contribute to the spi in general moving forward with your code there and here as a whole. I may get together a cpld spi prototype with the help of bprepared , use your code and try do this on the firebird cd32 riser but we will see otherwise I'll get the a500 sorted depends what I feel like . I think most people I talk to want Ethernet so I'll go down that path.

Wonder if this can be done with winuae and USB spi? Hmm

plasmab · 16 January 2018, 19:01

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Originally Posted by solidcore

Sorry for confusion but I'm aware the drivers will be same, meant tf530 as a path to contribute to the spi in general moving forward with your code there and here as a whole. I may get together a cpld spi prototype with the help of bprepared , use your code and try do this on the firebird cd32 riser but we will see otherwise I'll get the a500 sorted depends what I feel like . I think most people I talk to want Ethernet so I'll go down that path.

Wonder if this can be done with winuae and USB spi? Hmm

Toni contacted me about that last bit offering to help, but then said he doesn’t want to add hardware that doesn’t exist. Fair enough.

solidcore · 16 January 2018, 19:10

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Originally Posted by plasmab

Toni contacted me about that last bit offering to help, but then said he doesn’t want to add hardware that doesn’t exist. Fair enough.

Ahhhh fair enough then . Would of been nice feature really oh well . Maybe Toni will reconsider at some point .

plasmab · 16 January 2018, 19:18

I may compile a patch/fork of fs-uae for testing. Adding my auto config badger should be easy

solidcore · 16 January 2018, 19:21

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Originally Posted by plasmab

I may compile a patch/fork of fs-uae for testing. Adding my auto config badger should be easy

That would be brilliant . Please do . Thanks Stephen .

plasmab · 16 January 2018, 19:38

Which usb spi module where you thinking of

Toni Wilen · 16 January 2018, 19:45

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Originally Posted by solidcore

Ahhhh fair enough then . Would of been nice feature really oh well . Maybe Toni will reconsider at some point .

I won't do hardware emulation of new previously "unknown" hardware (SPI) without any way to properly test it with existing and functional driver.

Finding some existing hardware that uses SPI and has confirmed working driver would fix that problem.

plasmab · 16 January 2018, 19:59

I am considering recompiling EmuTOS with TF530 spi port support. The driver in there is comprehensive.

solidcore · 16 January 2018, 20:03

Toni, that's alright I hear what you're saying maybe we can find something for you at some point . Will need to do some research my end . Thanks again and great work with winuae it's a blessing!
Edit : is sd net off the cards for you ?

Stephen, what USB: spi controller you thinking would be sufficient anyway I have been trying to find a option that is cheap and meets the requirements but so many solutions come up especially adruinos but unsure about that. Or are we keeping it strictly software sided?

Oh yeah love a bit of TOS me , are drivers cross compatible between the two ? I don't know much about Amiga and Atari drivers .

Amiga1992 · 16 January 2018, 20:21

What is SPI?

plasmab · 16 January 2018, 21:23

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I won't do hardware emulation of new previously "unknown" hardware (SPI) without any way to properly test it with existing and functional driver.

Finding some existing hardware that uses SPI and has confirmed working driver would fix that problem.

To be clear there is nothing required to emulate SPI. SPI isnt really a protocol so much as "A master and a slave exchange a byte simultaneously".

The SD card protocol is a different matter but there already exists an emulation for this in SoftGUN.

http://softgun.sourceforge.net
http://softgun.sourceforge.net/sdcard.shtml

I've used this with Hatari before. All you do is compile in the MMC code and whenever the amiga writes to the 8 bit SPI port you write that byte to the MMC layer with the spi_byte_exchange() type api call. Aside from setting up the hardfile and card versions thats the job done.

I'll demo this with something i can compile on linux if i get time. Unless i can compile winuae without installing Visual Studio.

spidi · 16 January 2018, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I won't do hardware emulation of new previously "unknown" hardware (SPI) without any way to properly test it with existing and functional driver.

Finding some existing hardware that uses SPI and has confirmed working driver would fix that problem.

Here is a working SPI implementation for the Wicher 500i card. Currently card supports the DS1306 chipset and the mp3 decoder VS1003.

plasmab · 17 January 2018, 00:02

I grabbed the WinUAE git repo and it doesnt compile. Hardcoded paths in there for D:\Amiga and some bits and pieces that dont compile with VS2017 Community Edition. I'll use FSUAE for my tests. I recommend some work on the build process for WinUAE but thats always low on the priority list.

Toni Wilen · 17 January 2018, 07:41

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Originally Posted by plasmab

To be clear there is nothing required to emulate SPI. SPI isnt really a protocol so much as "A master and a slave exchange a byte simultaneously".

The SD card protocol is a different matter but there already exists an emulation for this in SoftGUN.

It won't change the situation. I won't do anything blindly. Test case is required. I don't do test cases

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Originally Posted by spidi

Here is a working SPI implementation for the Wicher 500i card. Currently card supports the DS1306 chipset and the mp3 decoder VS1003.

Which is totally different than talking to a SD card. (and those kinds of expansions don't really make much sense in my opinion except for experimentation)

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Originally Posted by plasmab

I grabbed the WinUAE git repo and it doesnt compile. Hardcoded paths in there for D:\Amiga and some bits and pieces that dont compile with VS2017 Community Edition. I'll use FSUAE for my tests. I recommend some work on the build process for WinUAE but thats always low on the priority list.

You need http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuaeinclibs.zip and latest Windows 10 SDK. 2017 is supported. Don't use debug builds. I still don't do documentation.

plasmab · 17 January 2018, 11:18

Yeah I’m an automation freak. I want to dockerize everything. I’ll use FS-UAE for now.

amigoun · 17 January 2018, 15:08

Does anyone here run HRTMon on CD32 & TF328? I managed to run it with the IDE working. I can for example save picture to CF within the HRTMon. I would like to use the SA function to work as I use it on A1200 quite often. Here it freeze. Most likely this is expected due missing features of CD32, but still does anyone think this can be made to work?

plasmab · 17 January 2018, 15:50

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Originally Posted by amigoun

Does anyone here run HRTMon on CD32 & TF328? I managed to run it with the IDE working. I can for example save picture to CF within the HRTMon. I would like to use the SA function to work as I use it on A1200 quite often. Here it freeze. Most likely this is expected due missing features of CD32, but still does anyone think this can be made to work?

I don’t think I wired up the NMI in the ram cpld firmware... when I saw people with the NMI header Jumpered it scared me off doing that. I’ve not tried HRTmon yet but it’s on my (long) todo list.

amigoun · 17 January 2018, 17:04

I dont use the NMI, I use the FREEZEKEY tooltype of WHDLoad to activate HRTMon by simple keypress.

plasmab · 17 January 2018, 17:06

Ah ok. No idea about your issue. Are you on v41?

16 January 2018, 20:03	#3230
solidcore Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: birmingham, uk Posts: 548	Toni, that's alright I hear what you're saying maybe we can find something for you at some point . Will need to do some research my end . Thanks again and great work with winuae it's a blessing! Edit : is sd net off the cards for you ? Stephen, what USB: spi controller you thinking would be sufficient anyway I have been trying to find a option that is cheap and meets the requirements but so many solutions come up especially adruinos but unsure about that. Or are we keeping it strictly software sided? Oh yeah love a bit of TOS me , are drivers cross compatible between the two ? I don't know much about Amiga and Atari drivers . Last edited by solidcore; 16 January 2018 at 20:11.

17 January 2018, 17:06	#3240
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Expansion board for the CD32 Ah ok. No idea about your issue. Are you on v41? Last edited by plasmab; 17 January 2018 at 17:11.

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16 January 2018, 12:52	#3221
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	The drivers will be the same

16 January 2018, 19:18	#3225
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	I may compile a patch/fork of fs-uae for testing. Adding my auto config badger should be easy

16 January 2018, 19:38	#3227
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Which usb spi module where you thinking of

16 January 2018, 19:59	#3229
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	I am considering recompiling EmuTOS with TF530 spi port support. The driver in there is comprehensive.

16 January 2018, 20:21	#3231
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,654	What is SPI?

17 January 2018, 00:02	#3234
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	I grabbed the WinUAE git repo and it doesnt compile. Hardcoded paths in there for D:\Amiga and some bits and pieces that dont compile with VS2017 Community Edition. I'll use FSUAE for my tests. I recommend some work on the build process for WinUAE but thats always low on the priority list.

17 January 2018, 11:18	#3236
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Yeah I’m an automation freak. I want to dockerize everything. I’ll use FS-UAE for now.

17 January 2018, 15:08	#3237
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Does anyone here run HRTMon on CD32 & TF328? I managed to run it with the IDE working. I can for example save picture to CF within the HRTMon. I would like to use the SA function to work as I use it on A1200 quite often. Here it freeze. Most likely this is expected due missing features of CD32, but still does anyone think this can be made to work?

17 January 2018, 17:04	#3239
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	I dont use the NMI, I use the FREEZEKEY tooltype of WHDLoad to activate HRTMon by simple keypress.

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