KarlosTKG now on GitHub

[abu_the_monkey]

when I comment out the unrecognised extension it doesn't crash, just dumps me back to workbench.

I will keep at it, probably something I am doing wrong

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

tokenised

Damn. That makes it trickier to put under version control, which I was going to suggest. I had hoped AMOS Pro would've used plain text.

[abu_the_monkey]

the 2 extensions I have that may be out of sorts are the one I mentioned earlier, Turbo_Plus and os_dev_kit, however it looks like the missing extension is something to do with a call to convert a sound sample (proc samp2fib).

still it is probably something right in front of my face that I just can't see.

[redblade]

Originally Posted by Karlos

Someone (Korban?) mentioned an editor implemented in blitz. I wasn't sure if that was just misremembering leveled though.

Gloom Editor was in blitz also maybe Breathless?

[Samurai_Crow]

Originally Posted by Karlos

Damn. That makes it trickier to put under version control, which I was going to suggest. I had hoped AMOS Pro would've used plain text.

If you don't use embedded banks in the executable you can list an entire AmosPro source to disk by highlighting the program as a block and using ASCII exporter menu item. You can also load it back in using ASCII merge.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Crow

If you don't use embedded banks in the executable you can list an entire AmosPro source to disk by highlighting the program as a block and using ASCII exporter menu item. You can also load it back in using ASCII merge.

Maybe there's a tool that can just convert between the tokenised code and plaintext. Being able to version control the code and edit it in a modern IDE is pretty important I'd you want to get stuff done quickly and reliably.

[abu_the_monkey]

found some tools on github that may be useful, time will tell.

[abu_the_monkey]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Crow

If you don't use embedded banks in the executable you can list an entire AmosPro source to disk by highlighting the program as a block and using ASCII exporter menu item. You can also load it back in using ASCII merge.

thanks, I had read about that somewhere in the 'coders,amos' section of the forum and it does work, but I still have to sort out the extensions before it reads correct? can't see how amos would know what the missing extension was when importing the ascii text back.

[Karlos]

Well, in the worst case, you could still use version control, you just can't inspect individual changes.

I think what we truly need is a open editor, written in something more maintained and accessible.

[abu_the_monkey]

I think what we truly need is a open editor, written in something more maintained and accessible.

totally agree.

leved303 is a single 12655 line lump of code (without whatever the extensions add). fun fun fun

Need to get it to build first and worry about that later

example:

Global UZH(),ZPBR(),ZRG(),ZFG(),ZWG(),WD(),ZD(),DC(),UZRG(),UZFG(),UZWG()

I can have a guess at what some of these variable are but there is line after line of them declared at the start.

[Samurai_Crow]

@Hungry Horace had tried to make a text represented AmosPro editor for purposes of version control. I don't know how far he got with it.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

totally agree.

leved303 is a single 12655 line lump of code (without whatever the extensions add). fun fun fun
.

Personal projects often get a bit unwieldy, but you'd like to think that at some point you'd check yourself and begin to break it down into smaller pieces. That's the same sort of size as hires.s!

[Karlos]

On a different note, since a C enabled version is now a reality, I've been giving some thought to a deeper modding experience that could go way beyond what is possible with the current basic game linker tool.

What I propose is the definition of a .library specification that defines a high level interface. The game attempts to load this library from the mod directory if it exists. If it does exist, the engine uses functions in the library for various behaviours instead of relying on the old built-in ones.

This would allow mods to provide entirely new behaviours for aliens, etc. This requires a lot of thought on how the game would expose state to the library and how and where the functions of the library are invoked.

Obviously this is a stretch goal, but one that I think would be very worthwhile. Any programming language that can be used to build a valid AmigaOS library could be used.

[Dunny]

Originally Posted by abu_the_monkey

the 2 extensions I have that may be out of sorts are the one I mentioned earlier, Turbo_Plus and os_dev_kit, however it looks like the missing extension is something to do with a call to convert a sound sample (proc samp2fib).

still it is probably something right in front of my face that I just can't see.

Dunno if this is related to it or what - it has ADF disk images so may be of use?

https://github.com/cbmeeks/TurboPlusSceneEditor

[Karlos]

If possible, I'd work around that by disabling the Fibonacci conversion in the editor. No memory is ever saved by using the Fibonacci delta compression in the game anyway since it decompresses the sounds on loading.

[Karlos]

Today's lunch break, I need to get rid of the deprecated textures from level M...

[abu_the_monkey]

I have now managed to build leved303 and it works (minus the samp2fib converter)

[abu_the_monkey]

@Karlos

here is the first new release of LevelED since 1998

the only change is that when you select 'save level' from the title bar menu it auto selects an empty tool button and so avoiding a crash/lockup

I think I am still missing the 'DOOM music' extension which is why the samp2fib is not working

also there is a 10 second pause when you start the editor as I am using what seems to be a demonstration version of the 'os dev kit' extension
It does not seem to be limited in its functionality but I have not tested very much yet.

[Karlos]

Excellent work!

Over lunch and just after the grind, I replaced half of holodeck M. There's still a fair amount to go, but it's mostly rid of it now. I pushed to the branch as always.

[abu_the_monkey]

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