Expansion board for the CD32 - Page 155

Amiga1992 · 27 November 2017, 17:17

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Originally Posted by kolla

I have now tried a range of old CF cards and adaptors (plus DOMs, disk and whatnot), and so far, only one CF card seem to work, an ancient 64MB SanDisk.

Not my experience at all, I used any shit I had lying around and it worked.
Suggestion to look at adapter and/or cable length is wise.

alenppc · 27 November 2017, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Not my experience at all, I used any shit I had lying around and it worked.
Suggestion to look at adapter and/or cable length is wise.

I think you were just lucky... Whatever doesn't work on the 328 also doesn't work on the 530, which makes sense considering they share the IDE code.

Amiga1992 · 27 November 2017, 19:16

Lucky me I guess!
So is it related to the Gayle emulation? Would the WinUAE code help in any possible way?

plasmab · 27 November 2017, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Lucky me I guess!
So is it related to the Gayle emulation? Would the WinUAE code help in any possible way?

Unlikely. The Gayle emulation is just the interrupt register handling and the Gayle ID. Maybe its an interupt lock up or something but unlikely. Possibly a wiring issue.

Save the speculation until i get the non-working card.

brigand · 27 November 2017, 19:27

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Originally Posted by th4t1guy

There's a few programs on aminet that will let you do this.

I used JoyMouse http://aminet.net/package/util/mouse/JoyMouse with speed Parameter "6" which works fine, but has no second mouse button. Running it with "RUN > NIL: C:JoyMouse 6" from the startup-sequence.

I doesn't need so anything aditional to install like the one from CDTV Tools.

Is there anything like (as less installation as possible) this with two mouse buttons?

nogginthenog · 27 November 2017, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Glen M

And one question, if I may, although not directly related to the TF328 but would it be feasible to implement a floppy port to the riser card for use with an external floppy drive? Not that its really necessary but the thought crossed my mind last night so thought I'd ask.

A crazy Aussie bloke called Brek Martin (he's here somewhere) is working on a homebrew floppy adapter for the CD32. Not sure if he succeeded fully yet. Why crazy? Because he's wiring it up on a rats nest of a proto board

You can find his videos here
https://www.youtube.com/user/ArtyFart/videos

Very cool though!

a4k-oerx · 27 November 2017, 19:45

Try JoyMouse from CD32 Developer-Kit, it supports left/right mousebutton as red/blue button.

supaduper · 27 November 2017, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

What can be done with TF328 to improve compatibility with IDE devices?

I have now tried a range of old CF cards and adaptors (plus DOMs, disk and whatnot), and so far, only one CF card seem to work, an ancient 64MB SanDisk. The new 16GB SanDisk CF "ultra" cards I bought for the TF328 do not work (boot partition shows up in early-startup, but refuses to boot from it). All these devices and cards work just fine on SX32 Pro, A1200, A600 etc.

I am using a 16gb sandisk ULTRA on my TF328 just now no problem using PFS aio, your problem lies elsewhere either Bad cf cards or adapter, I have not had one type of brand of CF not work with the TF328

alenppc · 27 November 2017, 20:12

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Originally Posted by supaduper

I am using a 16gb sandisk ULTRA on my TF328 just now no problem using PFS aio, your problem lies elsewhere either Bad cf cards or adapter, I have not had one type of brand of CF not work with the TF328

That is very strange. I assuming we are using the same cheap ebay adapters. And besides, they don't do anything special other than straight wire pins. I wonder if not all of these CF cards are created equal. Maybe they altered the logic between various revisions.

supaduper · 27 November 2017, 20:18

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Originally Posted by alenppc

That is very strange. I assuming we are using the same cheap ebay adapters. And besides, they don't do anything special other than straight wire pins.

Yes Alen just the same cheap CF IDE adapters off of Ebay , I have had the odd one give me problem so I just binned it and got another, I have repaired the odd one by just reflowing the solder on the adapters pins as they are normally pi$$ poor

Luvarim · 27 November 2017, 20:22

I followed your advises and I think I located the problem. Riser card is working, the video signal through the db23 works fine, when the tf328 is plugged in it boots from cd. But when the cf Adapter is plugged in then I get no video signal. Is there a cf adapter which I can be sure that it works.
Many thanks for your good advises.

th4t1guy · 27 November 2017, 20:33

I thought I read somewhere that IDE to SD adapters had better compatibility as well as being more available. Is this not true? Why is everyone still using CF cards?

kolla · 27 November 2017, 20:34

Well, I used the very same adapter when I prepared the cards on the other CD32 with SX32 Pro, so I doubt that cards or adapters are to blame. The SX32 Pro boots right off the 16GB ultra, as does the A600 with Vampire2 and my A1200. So, I have no idea.

plasmab · 27 November 2017, 20:36

How do you even partition a 16GB drive?

kolla · 27 November 2017, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

I thought I read somewhere that IDE to SD adapters had better compatibility as well as being more available. Is this not true? Why is everyone still using CF cards?

Nah, CF pretty much _is_ IDE only in a different form factor, while SD adapters need more logic to translate. I can say that when I try to use SD adapter on the TF328, the audio volume output dropped _drastically_. Maybe a symptom of something?

alenppc · 27 November 2017, 20:42

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Originally Posted by plasmab

How do you even partition a 16GB drive?

You need to create the first partition smaller than 4GB (ideally under WinUAE). Then you need a patched scsi.device to see the rest. But for the purposes of this test you can limit yourself to creating one partition under 4GB.

If unable to reproduce the issue, I am willing to send you the offending card/hardware.

kolla · 27 November 2017, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

How do you even partition a 16GB drive?

With a system running AmigaOS 3.9, with updated scsi.device and filesystems.

Typically a small partition at the start for the operating system, so the "old" scsi.device in the kickstart can find it and boot, so Setpatch (or whatever) can bootstrap the new scsi.device. I typically use a system partition of a few hundred MBs.

supaduper · 27 November 2017, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

With a system running AmigaOS 3.9, with updated scsi.device and filesystems.

Typically a small partition at the start for the operating system, so the "old" scsi.device in the kickstart can find it and boot, so Setpatch (or whatever) can bootstrap the new scsi.device. I typically use a system partition of a few hundred MBs.

Same as kolla says but I also only only use the PFS-aio fs and never ever have a problem

th4t1guy · 27 November 2017, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

Nah, CF pretty much _is_ IDE only in a different form factor, while SD adapters need more logic to translate. I can say that when I try to use SD adapter on the TF328, the audio volume output dropped _drastically_. Maybe a symptom of something?

Weird.....maybe the IDE ground pins were done different on the SD adapter?

plasmab · 27 November 2017, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by alenppc

You need to create the first partition smaller than 4GB (ideally under WinUAE). Then you need a patched scsi.device to see the rest. But for the purposes of this test you can limit yourself to creating one partition under 4GB.

If unable to reproduce the issue, I am willing to send you the offending card/hardware.

Ok. I'll do that slap it into my version of DiagROM with IDE Diagnostics and see how we go.

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27 November 2017, 19:16	#3083
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	Lucky me I guess! So is it related to the Gayle emulation? Would the WinUAE code help in any possible way?

27 November 2017, 19:45	#3087
a4k-oerx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: EU Posts: 163	Try JoyMouse from CD32 Developer-Kit, it supports left/right mousebutton as red/blue button.

27 November 2017, 20:22	#3091
Luvarim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Wentorf bei Hamburg Posts: 13	I followed your advises and I think I located the problem. Riser card is working, the video signal through the db23 works fine, when the tf328 is plugged in it boots from cd. But when the cf Adapter is plugged in then I get no video signal. Is there a cf adapter which I can be sure that it works. Many thanks for your good advises.

27 November 2017, 20:33	#3092
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	I thought I read somewhere that IDE to SD adapters had better compatibility as well as being more available. Is this not true? Why is everyone still using CF cards?

27 November 2017, 20:34	#3093
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	Well, I used the very same adapter when I prepared the cards on the other CD32 with SX32 Pro, so I doubt that cards or adapters are to blame. The SX32 Pro boots right off the 16GB ultra, as does the A600 with Vampire2 and my A1200. So, I have no idea.

27 November 2017, 20:36	#3094
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	How do you even partition a 16GB drive?

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