JST Kickstart 1.3

[Lastic]

Originally Posted by jotd

it works with winuae, but I don't have a real A500 (well I have, but not with hard drive and all). I didn't try FS-UAE either.

1.5Mb is always slow ram, even on winuae. If you can run other games, that's very strange...

On WinUAE (my config) it works (1MB chip, 1.5MB slow). But I am using a folder for my hard drive, not a hard disk image.

Same here also using the SDcard directory as a folder on both FS-UAE and WinUAE.

So to deduct the Harddisk SD card, I tried the following now

FS-UAE
your SOTB folder mapped as DH0: including a copy of JST 7.1
booted from DF0: Workbench 1.3 disk
1 MB ChipRAM + 1.5 MB SlowRAM
JST shadowofthebeast.slave lowmem verbose => black screen

WinUAE
your SOTB folder mapped as DH0: including a copy of JST 7.1
booted from DF0: Workbench 1.3 disk
1 MB ChipRAM + 1.5 MB SlowRAM
JST shadowofthebeast.slave lowmem verbose => black screen

The only thing I can still think of is that I'm having less free memory than you even in WinUAE after booting Workbench 1.3 to CLI ? Do you mind sharing your Workbench floppy that you are using on theZone ?

[jotd]

on my phone now...

winuae try to set mem to 8 megs and remove lowmem

[Lastic]

Originally Posted by jotd

on my phone now...

winuae try to set mem to 8 megs and remove lowmem

WinUAE
your SOTB folder mapped as DH0: including a copy of JST 7.1
booted from DF0: Workbench 1.3 disk
1 MB ChipRAM + 2 MB FastRAM
JST shadowofthebeast.slave works without any options.

[jotd]

with 2MB it's easy as it preloads. But you can't quit you have to reset. That the "feature" I added to JST. When there's enough mem to preload but not to quit, it chooses to run the game, and you can't quit. no biggie if you can play the game.

1MB + 1.5MB you can't do that because preload needs 2 buffers of 950kb each for both disks, so you have to set LOWMEM.

snapshot winuae 512kb chip 1.5Mb kick 1.3 jst 7.1 running SOTB

[Retro1234]

maybe try holding Ctrl-D on bootup to get maximum memory.

[Lastic]

Originally Posted by jotd

with 2MB it's easy as it preloads. But you can't quit you have to reset. That the "feature" I added to JST. When there's enough mem to preload but not to quit, it chooses to run the game, and you can't quit. no biggie if you can play the game.

1MB + 1.5MB you can't do that because preload needs 2 buffers of 950kb each for both disks, so you have to set LOWMEM.

snapshot winuae 512kb chip 1.5Mb kick 1.3 jst 7.1 running SOTB

Attachment 71646

winuae 512kb chip 1.5Mb kick 1.3 jst 7.1 running SOTB with LOWMEM gives me a Guru meditation.

winuae 1Mb chip 1.5Mb kick 1.3 jst 7.1 running SOTB with LOWMEM gives me a blank screen

[jotd]

if other games work with LOWMEM maybe your data is corrupt/transfer error. You could try to set winuae to kick 2.0 / 68020 and try this install with whdload

[Lastic]

Originally Posted by jotd

if other games work with LOWMEM maybe your data is corrupt/transfer error. You could try to set winuae to kick 2.0 / 68020 and try this install with whdload

I'm just going to wait for my 8MB FastRAM upgrade to arrive (on it's way from Turkey) and install that in my A500 giving it 1 Mb ChipRAM and 8MB FastRAM should allow me to preload WHDLoad slaves with JST whilst remaining on Kickstart/WB 1.3

So bizarre that your WinUAE configuration works and mine not but in the end it's the real A500 that will be used.

JST already has given , me the noob, a lot of insights and it will allow me to remain on my original 1.3 ROM and Workbench without softkicking or installing further upgrades.

I also learned now how to detect the XFD packed files so that will come in handy.

[Rod_cl]

Hi,
i just found there is a new version of JST!!!! thanks!!!
i will begin to test some games on my a2000 with ks 1.3 en 5 MB of fast ram 020 CPU.
Best

Rodrigo

[jotd]

Good, another user ! welcome.

please use this sheet to report non working games

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Ot0/edit#gid=0

[Lastic]

Just a quick thank you once again, my 8MB FastRAM has arrived and is installed so I can report that I can now run a WHDLOAD slaves using Kickstart 1.3 and JST 7.1

Up next RGB2HDMI

[Lastic]

A not so JST but partly related question

the WHDLoad slaves have info files which have as default tool WHDLOAD.
I thought that copying SYS:C/JST to SYS:C/WHDLOAD might be sufficient so they would load and use the JST copy (renamed as WHDLOAD) but I get an 205 error code so they cannot find it.

In CLI it works, I can use WHDLOAD (the renamed JST from SYS:C/ ) and load the slave but clicking the INFO file in Workbench 1.3 doesn't work

EDIT 21:20

after numerous searches I did find Replex which achieves this goal.

Version 2.0 for WB 2.0 and greater can be found on Aminet but the older WB 1.3 version can be found on this compilation http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=23122

I added WHDLOAD -> C:JST in Replex, Hid it and now clicking on a WHDLOAD icon starts up JST without altering the default tool WHDLOAD in the info file.

EDIT 21:42

I should also state my current setup has changed in the meanwhile, I've gone oldschool.

A500 , KS 1.3, WB 1.3 , 1MB Slow RAM + 512 Kb Chipram trapdoor expansion , and a Supra 500XP with a 2.1 Gb SCSI disk and 2.5 MB FastRAM via the expansion port.

One thing I noticed now using WHDLOAD slaves with JST 7.1 is
when starting them via CLI the Quitkey actually works
but starting them via an info file using WB 1.3 they freeze on ** HIT RETURN to exit

[jotd]

it's probably a JST issue. start from wb isn't used for years.

[alain.treesong]

With this config : WB1.3 512K chip / 2mb fast memory (Zorro2), here are some tests of jst 7.1. Pretty tool anyway :

Game State Version Others

LOTUS Works ! 1.1
TURRICAN II Works ! 1.7 F10 to quit
B.C.KID Works ! 1.5 F10 to quit
Jim Power Works ! (with LOWMEM option) 3.0-B F10 to quit

Apidya Kaiko needs 4 mb fast - doesn'work well (sprites and bobs display problems) 2.05
LOTUS 2 Doesn't work (text introduction flashes and stucks) ; LOWMEM option used 1.11
Dune 2 Doesn't work (not enough chip memory) ; LOWMEM option used ; 4 Mb fast used 1.1

HoleInOne needs DEVS:Kickstarts/Kick34005.a500.RTB - works pehaps but not test it 1.1
Secret Of Monkey Island FR needs DEVS:Kickstarts/Kick34005.a500.RTB - works pehaps but not test it 3.5
Another World FR needs DEVS:Kickstarts/Kick34005.a500.RTB - works pehaps but not test it 2.6
Chessmaster 2000 needs DEVS:Kickstarts/Kick34005.a500.RTB - works pehaps but not test it 1.1
POPULOUS needs DEVS:Kickstarts/Kick34005.a500 - works pehaps but not test it 1.1


Can report results in the web doc file if necessary.

[jotd]

Hi,

Yeah, please report the non working 3 ones. Kickemu games work too, if you take the hassle to install kickstart. Don't report those

[alain.treesong]

Done.
I confirm that AnotherWorld (with 4mb fast), Monkey Island (with 8mb fast) and Chessmaster work.
HoleInOne seems not work : I report the case in the doc file.

I tried everything with only 512kb of chip. So JST can be used with almost all OCS config (except basic A1000 with only 256kb of chip).
Very cool.

[arongooch]

Hi all,

I have recently been getting back into using JST after quite some time. I have a really nice setup of WHDLoad under 3.1 but wanted a more classic setup for my A500 so am using JST. Ive been through many games and keeping a list of what I got to work, what doesnt work loading from the traditional icon based execution in WB but recently switched to using AmigaShell and many games that I thought previously would not work actually worked!

I am not sure if anyone has had problems with games that save? Ive tried many games now that have the ability to save but all crash with a black screen when I try to do so. Is this a known problem with JST? They all save correctly under WHDLoad.

Absolutely awesome work that JST is still being worked on after all these years and like many others who have mentioned, I also really appreciate the efforts. Cheers

[powersofts]

Hi all,
From now i'm using jst too on my stock A500 with ks1.3 and 512kb expansion together with A590 scsi2sd 4GB card.
So thank you all for keeping jst alive in 2021!
Have a nice weekend!
regards from the netherlands!

[matburton]

Loving JST 7.2

I haven't found anything yet that hasn't worked!

jotd is some sort of god

[dr.zeissler]

Originally Posted by Lastic

A not so JST but partly related question

the WHDLoad slaves have info files which have as default tool WHDLOAD.
I thought that copying SYS:C/JST to SYS:C/WHDLOAD might be sufficient so they would load and use the JST copy (renamed as WHDLOAD) but I get an 205 error code so they cannot find it.

In CLI it works, I can use WHDLOAD (the renamed JST from SYS:C/ ) and load the slave but clicking the INFO file in Workbench 1.3 doesn't work

EDIT 21:20

after numerous searches I did find Replex which achieves this goal.

Version 2.0 for WB 2.0 and greater can be found on Aminet but the older WB 1.3 version can be found on this compilation http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=23122

I added WHDLOAD -> C:JST in Replex, Hid it and now clicking on a WHDLOAD icon starts up JST without altering the default tool WHDLOAD in the info file.

EDIT 21:42

I should also state my current setup has changed in the meanwhile, I've gone oldschool.

A500 , KS 1.3, WB 1.3 , 1MB Slow RAM + 512 Kb Chipram trapdoor expansion , and a Supra 500XP with a 2.1 Gb SCSI disk and 2.5 MB FastRAM via the expansion port.

One thing I noticed now using WHDLOAD slaves with JST 7.1 is
when starting them via CLI the Quitkey actually works
but starting them via an info file using WB 1.3 they freeze on ** HIT RETURN to exit

I use JST via batchfile. I start wb1.3 and open a CLI. In that cli I start "ntp" (sort of norton commander) to browse the filesystem. I created "start-file" which includes the directory-change to the game followed by jstxx slave.slave. I have every single jst-version on my harddisk. with this usage I can quit the games without corrupting the running workbench.