Using a Compact Flash card on a600/a1200 IDE - Page 15

Zetr0 · 20 August 2007, 16:04

@jope

Normally I would agree with you, it does look TOO HIGH, but this value seems to work where as "0x1fe00" doesn`t ... i haven`t figured it out to be sincerely honest. This value was discovered by shrub and theres a little play in it i am sure.

I wonder if the trailing zero's might have something extra to do with the mask? I am unsure... all i know is that it works here... and the 0x1fe00 didn't want to play ball on two of my 1200's ( i have 4 12mobo's btw differing versions & KS)

I personaly would like to know why... i do wonder if the KS / Board Revs. or even the MASK has much to play with it... I do know for certain that my A600 just has a complete FIT when i put in 0x1fe00 .. checksums and read errors all over the place.

Thinking about it now, its hightly possible that such a high value is just cycling round again and again soooo out comes the cal-tic-u-lator...

0x1fe0000 hex to DEC = 33423360 a wayyy to big value lol... so lets see...
0x1fe00 hex to DEC = 130560 hmm

irony would be the first value is 256 times bigger than the bottom one... hrmm....

sweetlilmre · 21 August 2007, 09:46

Hi,

Quote:

1. I notice you are only using a splitter (non-buffered) would you have a buffered device to try?

I guess that would be the next thing to try. I wanted to get a subway anyway so I suppose its off to AmigaKit for more stuff!

Quote:

2. false Read and Checksum errors occure quite commonly with CF cards you will need to change the MAXTRANSFERS (in the hard disk prep menu) to "0x1fe0000" leave the mask as it is though. you can drop this an octet if it still has issues i.e. "0x1fd0000" or further still "0x1ee0000" as you may know MAXTRANSFER's is about block size to transfer.

I think I did try that, along with about 20 other values (I've seriously installed about 50 times trying different combinations. But I'll give it another go.

Quote:

5. removing the LoadIDE from startup.

With or without IDEfix I get the same problem (already tested this).

*sigh*

Though I can't dispute that there has been joy in the journey

-(e)

Faerytale · 14 September 2007, 10:26

SD to ide adapter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SD-SECURE-DIGITA...QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone tried this??

DrF · 14 September 2007, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faerytale

SD to ide adapter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SD-SECURE-DIGITA...QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone tried this??

Looks interesting.... what I did when I had a CF adaptor and no CF cards was get a SD to CF adaptor thingy from a camara and put that on the CF to IDE adaptor, bit big but it worked.

I might get one of those, never seen them before

Zetr0 · 14 September 2007, 14:08

OoooOOoo

interesting.... I wonder if it takes SHD-SD ?

hmm yes need more pocket momey required.

Faerytale · 14 September 2007, 18:24

Zetro: What do you mean with SHD-SD??

Zetr0 · 14 September 2007, 18:43

@Faerytale

Super High Density - SD

Faerytale · 14 September 2007, 20:22

okidoki.

I bought one. If it will arrive to my mail, I will let you know if it´s shit or not

Zetr0 · 15 September 2007, 02:14

@faerytale

Dankie

thinlega · 26 September 2007, 21:53

Some good info in this post! I have managed to get my sandisk ultra 4gig working with my 060 a1200...

Just a quick question. Would a dual compact flash adaptor work? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Dual-Compa...QQcmdZViewItem

Zetr0 · 26 September 2007, 23:09

@Thinlega

That item looks identical to the one i have. wich is good, because mine works flawlessly with IDEFix97 + 020/030/060 any ram

the only thing i will say is that if you have nothing in the secondary port and put say a optical drive on the chain, no matter how you configure it, i couldn`t get "find ata" to see the rom.. rebooted with a single cf adapter and it found it straight away...

I did find that i the dual CF adapter and rom would work fine on differnt chains / channels

amigarobbo · 20 October 2007, 12:36

Hmm, after getting one of these to work with my 1200, and that fancy, if a little overpriced metal cased one as seen above somewhere ^^ on my 600, I've tried a small standard IDE to flash converter with a 4 gig hard drive on my A600.

it's working fine, except there's no flashing light when the HDD is being accessed on either the device itself or the case light. Is there anything I can try, or is it, just one of those that don't?

Vars · 19 November 2007, 05:14

Have a look at this http://www.pcengines.ch/cf2g.htm
only $5.5 Us plus postage
and
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....0%3D%26fvi%3D1

I have got one
Vars

Hungry Horace · 19 November 2007, 19:28

for the record, here's the one i got for under £1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bootable-Dual-...QQcmdZViewItem

it actaully takes 2 cards at a time, but i dont actually need such luxuries, and have no idea how that would work out on the miggy anyway!

however, since i have the 4xEIDE adaptor, i dindt have to worry about it having a 3.5inch drive connector, so i suspect that helps the price!

narmi · 21 November 2007, 07:09

The cheapest adapter I could find is this one for only $2 shipped. I made a 44-pin to 40-pin adapter cable and installed it in my A600. Works great.

Vikingex · 14 January 2008, 19:30

So once I've got my CF card and CF adapter, how should I format it? Which file structure is best for A600 with classicwb?

Zetr0 · 14 January 2008, 21:03

if its under 4GB and using KS 2.1 to 3.1 then SFS would be fine

you will have to change the MAXTRANSFERS setting when you prep the CF card.

this setting denotes the Size of the block no the number of them. so you need to set this to this value 0x1fe00000 or you suffer from false reports of Bad Checksums and Disk Invalidation when copying files.

Vikingex · 15 January 2008, 10:19

I am training on my USBkey, and it worked fine with installing normal workbench. I then decided to format it again, and try with ClassicWB.

However, now when I select HDtools then "Information", I cannot change the details as I could before. It is now blank. Is there a reason this is happening?

Zetr0 · 15 January 2008, 10:34

@Vikingex

hmmm interesting, Check the Icon Tool type "Menu>>Icon>>Info"

it should read scsi.device, if it reads uaehf.device then change that back to scsi.device

thats all i could think would be the problem at the moment.

Vikingex · 15 January 2008, 14:15

I will try it again tonight. Side question though, I am going to be using WHDload on my A600, and some others have been saying about the memory issues for the big games.

I may therefore get a ram upgrade, but haven't got any idea where to start. What should I be looking for?

19 November 2007, 05:14	#293
Vars Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 21	CF to IDE Carde Have a look at this http://www.pcengines.ch/cf2g.htm only $5.5 Us plus postage and http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....0%3D%26fvi%3D1 I have got one Vars

19 November 2007, 19:28	#294
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,545	for the record, here's the one i got for under £1 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bootable-Dual-...QQcmdZViewItem it actaully takes 2 cards at a time, but i dont actually need such luxuries, and have no idea how that would work out on the miggy anyway! however, since i have the 4xEIDE adaptor, i dindt have to worry about it having a 3.5inch drive connector, so i suspect that helps the price! Last edited by Hungry Horace; 19 November 2007 at 19:37.

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20 August 2007, 16:04	#281
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@jope Normally I would agree with you, it does look TOO HIGH, but this value seems to work where as "0x1fe00" doesn`t ... i haven`t figured it out to be sincerely honest. This value was discovered by shrub and theres a little play in it i am sure. I wonder if the trailing zero's might have something extra to do with the mask? I am unsure... all i know is that it works here... and the 0x1fe00 didn't want to play ball on two of my 1200's ( i have 4 12mobo's btw differing versions & KS) I personaly would like to know why... i do wonder if the KS / Board Revs. or even the MASK has much to play with it... I do know for certain that my A600 just has a complete FIT when i put in 0x1fe00 .. checksums and read errors all over the place. Thinking about it now, its hightly possible that such a high value is just cycling round again and again soooo out comes the cal-tic-u-lator... 0x1fe0000 hex to DEC = 33423360 a wayyy to big value lol... so lets see... 0x1fe00 hex to DEC = 130560 hmm irony would be the first value is 256 times bigger than the bottom one... hrmm....

14 September 2007, 10:26	#283
Faerytale Zone Friend Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a rock Posts: 110	SD to ide adapter: http://cgi.ebay.com/SD-SECURE-DIGITA...QQcmdZViewItem Anyone tried this??

14 September 2007, 14:08	#285
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	OoooOOoo interesting.... I wonder if it takes SHD-SD ? hmm yes need more pocket momey required.

14 September 2007, 18:24	#286
Faerytale Zone Friend Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a rock Posts: 110	Zetro: What do you mean with SHD-SD??

14 September 2007, 18:43	#287
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Faerytale Super High Density - SD

14 September 2007, 20:22	#288
Faerytale Zone Friend Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a rock Posts: 110	okidoki. I bought one. If it will arrive to my mail, I will let you know if it´s shit or not

15 September 2007, 02:14	#289
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@faerytale Dankie

26 September 2007, 21:53	#290
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	Some good info in this post! I have managed to get my sandisk ultra 4gig working with my 060 a1200... Just a quick question. Would a dual compact flash adaptor work? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Dual-Compa...QQcmdZViewItem

26 September 2007, 23:09	#291
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Thinlega That item looks identical to the one i have. wich is good, because mine works flawlessly with IDEFix97 + 020/030/060 any ram the only thing i will say is that if you have nothing in the secondary port and put say a optical drive on the chain, no matter how you configure it, i couldn`t get "find ata" to see the rom.. rebooted with a single cf adapter and it found it straight away... I did find that i the dual CF adapter and rom would work fine on differnt chains / channels

20 October 2007, 12:36	#292
amigarobbo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 181	Hmm, after getting one of these to work with my 1200, and that fancy, if a little overpriced metal cased one as seen above somewhere ^^ on my 600, I've tried a small standard IDE to flash converter with a 4 gig hard drive on my A600. it's working fine, except there's no flashing light when the HDD is being accessed on either the device itself or the case light. Is there anything I can try, or is it, just one of those that don't?

21 November 2007, 07:09	#295
narmi Guru Meditation Error Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 92	The cheapest adapter I could find is this one for only $2 shipped. I made a 44-pin to 40-pin adapter cable and installed it in my A600. Works great.

14 January 2008, 19:30	#296
Vikingex Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 44	So once I've got my CF card and CF adapter, how should I format it? Which file structure is best for A600 with classicwb?

14 January 2008, 21:03	#297
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	if its under 4GB and using KS 2.1 to 3.1 then SFS would be fine you will have to change the MAXTRANSFERS setting when you prep the CF card. this setting denotes the Size of the block no the number of them. so you need to set this to this value 0x1fe00000 or you suffer from false reports of Bad Checksums and Disk Invalidation when copying files.

15 January 2008, 10:19	#298
Vikingex Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 44	I am training on my USBkey, and it worked fine with installing normal workbench. I then decided to format it again, and try with ClassicWB. However, now when I select HDtools then "Information", I cannot change the details as I could before. It is now blank. Is there a reason this is happening?

15 January 2008, 10:34	#299
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Vikingex hmmm interesting, Check the Icon Tool type "Menu>>Icon>>Info" it should read scsi.device, if it reads uaehf.device then change that back to scsi.device thats all i could think would be the problem at the moment.

15 January 2008, 14:15	#300
Vikingex Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 44	I will try it again tonight. Side question though, I am going to be using WHDload on my A600, and some others have been saying about the memory issues for the big games. I may therefore get a ram upgrade, but haven't got any idea where to start. What should I be looking for?

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