Upgrading Apollo 1240 to 1260 a definitive How To Guide - Page 14

05 October 2009, 11:42

Thanks. Contacted Per and got a PM from another user, which gives me two options. Still need to secure a 68060 that will go up to 80Mhz.
Anyone?

Cheers,

Kaj

protek · 23 October 2009, 14:18

I'm curious, which 040 turbo boards can be upgraded to 060?
I'd like to acquire a 040 turbo board to an A4000 and upgrade it to 060.

rkauer · 24 October 2009, 05:47

Only Apollo 1240, 4040, Blizzard 1240 and CyberStorm 4040 mkII.

bebek · 06 December 2009, 00:10

Hi, it is me again. After almost a year I found time to upgrade my Apollo. Made voltage regulator 3.3V 3A, programmed 27c010, 50 MHz crystal on board, XC68060 on board, all looks fine but ... it does not work

. Mach is 131 ... . Changed everything back to 040 and it works. With 060 is only one click of floppy on start and grey screen. I fear that cpu is dead ... bought new from China months ago. The 040 works fine with 27c010 from 060, is it ok ? I removed a memory just in case. Jumpers are like they should be but I have checked other settings, no luck. Please help. Dimlow, do you still have this spare CPU ?

Magno Boots · 06 December 2009, 00:33

Hi,

Have you installed the 060 library?

bebek · 06 December 2009, 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magno Boots

Hi,

Have you installed the 060 library?

Not yet, it does not even show a start screen.

Magno Boots · 06 December 2009, 02:17

You need to install the new librarys (060 and a dummy 040 if I remember correctly) on your HD with the card removed. Power off then insert card and reboot.

Best of luck

alexh · 06 December 2009, 09:23

Yeah? I was pretty sure you could get to one of the following : turbocard early startup / kickstart screen / kickstart early start up without an 060 library installed.

Not 100% certain but it makes sense. If it cannot run kickstart how does it access the hard drive?

bebek · 06 December 2009, 11:17

That is the problem, there is no kickstart screen, only grey screen after power on, far from running programs from hard drive ...

Chain · 06 December 2009, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Yeah? I was pretty sure you could get to one of the following : turbocard early startup / kickstart screen / kickstart early start up without an 060 library installed.

Not 100% certain but it makes sense. If it cannot run kickstart how does it access the hard drive?

I can confirm it, even without any drive (fdd,hdd) connected you can ge to early startup with apollo1260

Chain · 06 December 2009, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by bebek

50 MHz crystal on board,

are you sure its a working one? those fail rate is a lot higher than cpu, imo.
Is it same piece as you are using for 040 test?

bebek · 06 December 2009, 15:21

Crystal is brand new and 040 works with it ... I have just tested it with 4,5A power supply and still no joy, but I have noticed that sometimes it does not work with 040 too. So maybe it is a dodgy cpu socket: two 040 are ok (solder on pins) - one of them starts almost everytime, but the new 060 is not. Is there anyone in Uk to whom I could send my 060 for test in Apollo ? Maybe someone in Poole, Bournemouth area (Dorset) ? Please ? I do not want to risk soldering it direct if it is faulty but will do if it works.

Dimlow · 08 December 2009, 00:14

DoogUK is in dorset, maybe he can help you.I upgraded his 1240. Are you sure you have the jumpers set correctly, you must set the 060 jumper so that the rom is booted correctly, thats the jumber next to the battery connector.

bebek · 08 December 2009, 11:23

I have red all topics about it and jumpers are in the right places. It would be perfect if DoogUK would check it but I understand that you would have to take the working card apart so anybody who could do it without a hassle in UK please help. BTW it is very difficult to mod Amiga with two months old son on your lap

.

bebek · 10 December 2009, 14:22

I have just taken out a socket and put 060 direct on the board. If it does not work the 040 will come back for good. Shame ...

alexh · 10 December 2009, 14:25

Surely try a replacement 060 first??

I have a handful of untested 060's here but I am reluctant to loan you one because you'd be no better off if it did not work. You still wouldn't know if it was the chip or apollo.

bebek · 10 December 2009, 23:26

Do you have 060 MC for 80MHZ ? I could think about it as the card is working now

. Dodgy socket it was ... Never buy strips from China ... . My 060 is XC so it will propably work with top 66MHz. Need to do some tests now.

alexh · 10 December 2009, 23:34

I do but none for sale. Sorry. You can get one off ebay for €69

bebek · 11 December 2009, 00:58

That is ok. It will not be a big difference anyway.

Dimlow · 11 December 2009, 08:24

bebek, got any pictures please

06 December 2009, 15:21	#272
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	Crystal is brand new and 040 works with it ... I have just tested it with 4,5A power supply and still no joy, but I have noticed that sometimes it does not work with 040 too. So maybe it is a dodgy cpu socket: two 040 are ok (solder on pins) - one of them starts almost everytime, but the new 060 is not. Is there anyone in Uk to whom I could send my 060 for test in Apollo ? Maybe someone in Poole, Bournemouth area (Dorset) ? Please ? I do not want to risk soldering it direct if it is faulty but will do if it works. Last edited by bebek; 07 December 2009 at 22:27.

10 December 2009, 14:25	#276
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,466	Surely try a replacement 060 first?? I have a handful of untested 060's here but I am reluctant to loan you one because you'd be no better off if it did not work. You still wouldn't know if it was the chip or apollo. Last edited by alexh; 10 December 2009 at 15:13.

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05 October 2009, 11:42	#261
kingkaj Posts: n/a	Thanks. Contacted Per and got a PM from another user, which gives me two options. Still need to secure a 68060 that will go up to 80Mhz. Anyone? Cheers, Kaj

23 October 2009, 14:18	#262
protek Amiga hobbyist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 250	I'm curious, which 040 turbo boards can be upgraded to 060? I'd like to acquire a 040 turbo board to an A4000 and upgrade it to 060.

24 October 2009, 05:47	#263
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Only Apollo 1240, 4040, Blizzard 1240 and CyberStorm 4040 mkII.

06 December 2009, 00:10	#264
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	Hi, it is me again. After almost a year I found time to upgrade my Apollo. Made voltage regulator 3.3V 3A, programmed 27c010, 50 MHz crystal on board, XC68060 on board, all looks fine but ... it does not work . Mach is 131 ... . Changed everything back to 040 and it works. With 060 is only one click of floppy on start and grey screen. I fear that cpu is dead ... bought new from China months ago. The 040 works fine with 27c010 from 060, is it ok ? I removed a memory just in case. Jumpers are like they should be but I have checked other settings, no luck. Please help. Dimlow, do you still have this spare CPU ?

06 December 2009, 00:33	#265
Magno Boots Zone Friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 688	Hi, Have you installed the 060 library?

06 December 2009, 02:17	#267
Magno Boots Zone Friend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 688	You need to install the new librarys (060 and a dummy 040 if I remember correctly) on your HD with the card removed. Power off then insert card and reboot. Best of luck

06 December 2009, 09:23	#268
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,466	Yeah? I was pretty sure you could get to one of the following : turbocard early startup / kickstart screen / kickstart early start up without an 060 library installed. Not 100% certain but it makes sense. If it cannot run kickstart how does it access the hard drive?

06 December 2009, 11:17	#269
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	That is the problem, there is no kickstart screen, only grey screen after power on, far from running programs from hard drive ...

08 December 2009, 00:14	#273
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	DoogUK is in dorset, maybe he can help you.I upgraded his 1240. Are you sure you have the jumpers set correctly, you must set the 060 jumper so that the rom is booted correctly, thats the jumber next to the battery connector.

08 December 2009, 11:23	#274
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	I have red all topics about it and jumpers are in the right places. It would be perfect if DoogUK would check it but I understand that you would have to take the working card apart so anybody who could do it without a hassle in UK please help. BTW it is very difficult to mod Amiga with two months old son on your lap .

10 December 2009, 14:22	#275
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	I have just taken out a socket and put 060 direct on the board. If it does not work the 040 will come back for good. Shame ...

10 December 2009, 23:26	#277
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	Do you have 060 MC for 80MHZ ? I could think about it as the card is working now . Dodgy socket it was ... Never buy strips from China ... . My 060 is XC so it will propably work with top 66MHz. Need to do some tests now.

10 December 2009, 23:34	#278
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,466	I do but none for sale. Sorry. You can get one off ebay for €69

11 December 2009, 00:58	#279
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	That is ok. It will not be a big difference anyway.

11 December 2009, 08:24	#280
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	bebek, got any pictures please

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