Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 136

trixster · 04 October 2018, 18:51

Bravo!

grelbfarlk · 05 October 2018, 00:07

Getting a little further with the real thing, ignore the window title.

esel · 05 October 2018, 02:42

I just got a M1 and all is working mutch better Quake is running for 30 Min without a crash !

Only thing is i still cant use my USB card and the M1 together.
Is there a way to disalbe the usb PCI Card without removing it ?

grelbfarlk · 05 October 2018, 03:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel

I just got a M1 and all is working mutch better Quake is running for 30 Min without a crash !

Only thing is i still cant use my USB card and the M1 together.
Is there a way to disalbe the usb PCI Card without removing it ?

Is the usb card enabled on boot? You can remove

Code:

ENVARC:psdstackloader

from your startup if that's how it's getting kicked off, and run that on demand if it still works.

esel · 05 October 2018, 05:38

I already tryed that but its not working.

as soon as the usb card is only plugged in the mediator the ppc crard will crash.
You can see that the memopry is added and after a few seconds the requster "PowerPC CPU possibly crashed during Setup" appers

grelbfarlk · 05 October 2018, 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel

I already tryed that but its not working.

as soon as the usb card is only plugged in the mediator the ppc crard will crash.
You can see that the memopry is added and after a few seconds the requster "PowerPC CPU possibly crashed during Setup" appers

You could try rearranging your cards, but you've probably already done that.

deling · 05 October 2018, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel

I just got a M1 and all is working mutch better Quake is running for 30 Min without a crash !

Only thing is i still cant use my USB card and the M1 together.
Is there a way to disalbe the usb PCI Card without removing it ?

Before you had k1 ? perhaps card was faulty

Hedeon · 05 October 2018, 13:54

I think I have a spider somewhere. Maybe I can do a fix or workaround. So your ppc card is now working, Esel?

esel · 05 October 2018, 18:24

Yes, Quake is Running for 2 Hours without crashing.
Still dont know Whats wrong with the k1 but as the m1 is working its ok.

A fix for the Spider would Be Great ! If you want i can Test some thinks to get the Spider working.

deling · 05 October 2018, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel

Yes, Quake is Running for 2 Hours without crashing.
Still dont know Whats wrong with the k1 but as the m1 is working its ok.

A fix for the Spider would Be Great ! If you want i can Test some thinks to get the Spider working.

weird , K1 is same like M1 same construction only little more mhz npu

nexus · 05 October 2018, 20:45

yes they are 100% the same they just downclocked the 8343 to 333 its rated at 400
heatsink is just show
the plastic package keeps these from running what the 8349 does which is 667MHz
though ofc thats just how they were sold the big K heatsink im sure could cool that 8343 overclocked just fine
its a huge chunk of aluminum coated in nickel
though after saying that im not stating the 8343 will hit 667 as other things play into that factor
as the 8349 uses a heatsink when ran at 667 though they all can run 400/333/266 without a heatsink
the pcie version actually uses the older slower 16kb cache core but ran that chip no heatsink at 400

anyways in our case we are using like half the SoC so it should be running WAYYYYYYYYY cooler than it normally does

esel · 05 October 2018, 21:35

hmm.. is it possible to overclock the 1m ?

grelbfarlk · 05 October 2018, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel

hmm.. is it possible to overclock the 1m ?

Of course it's possible, practical-well we should be finding out relatively soon.

Hedeon · 05 October 2018, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel

A fix for the Spider would Be Great ! If you want i can Test some thinks to get the Spider working.

I think I found a spider II. At least it has the Spider II sticker on the chip. However, pciinfo says $1033 for VendorID and I was sure that it used to be $89e otherwise the pci.library would refuse it...It seems to work though.

Sadly, I cannot reproduce the crashing of the M1. It works here together with the USB card.

Can you give me a pciinfo output with the gfx card, M1 and Spider II in your machine?

nexus · 06 October 2018, 01:28

soon as i tx this psu into old case (had to wait on some new switches to get here)
ill be tryin to overclock it and add more ram
im thinking it should at least do 533MHz
we cant change the cpu out unless you made a interposer
so thats that but at least there is mounting holes for a heatsink for those with K1
LED's add a nice red light show on them though lol
was thinking of replacing 2 of them with white for the boing effect
havent looked yet how those are controlled

esel · 06 October 2018, 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

I think I found a spider II. At least it has the Spider II sticker on the chip. However, pciinfo says $1033 for VendorID and I was sure that it used to be $89e otherwise the pci.library would refuse it...It seems to work though.

Sadly, I cannot reproduce the crashing of the M1. It works here together with the USB card.

Can you give me a pciinfo output with the gfx card, M1 and Spider II in your machine?

Sure here it is:

Code:

Pci Device 1:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Electronics
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 1
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $40000000 - $40000fff

Pci Device 2:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Electronics
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 2
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $40100000 - $40100fff

Pci Device 3:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Electronics
   DeviceID: $e0
   DeviceName: uPD720100A uPD720102GC USB 2.0 Host Controller
   ClassCode: $c0320
   RevisionID: $4
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
   SubsystemID: $89e
   MemSpace0: $40200000 - $402000ff

Pci Device 4:
   VendorID: $1002
   VendorName: ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
   DeviceID: $5960
   DeviceName: RV280 Radeon 9200 Pro
   ClassCode: $30000
   RevisionID: $1
   InterruptPin: 2
   SubsystemVendorID: $174b
   SubsystemID: $250
   MemSpace0: $48000000 - $4fffffff
   IOSpace1: $60c06000 - $60c060ff
   MemSpace2: $40300000 - $4030ffff
   RomSpace: $40400000 - $4041ffff

Pci Device 5:
   VendorID: $1002
   VendorName: ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
   DeviceID: $5940
   DeviceName: RV280 Radeon 9200 Pro Secondary
   ClassCode: $38000
   RevisionID: $1
   InterruptPin: 0
   SubsystemVendorID: $174b
   SubsystemID: $251
   MemSpace0: $50000000 - $57ffffff
   MemSpace1: $40500000 - $4050ffff

Pci Device 6:
   VendorID: $10ec
   VendorName: Realtek Audio/Lan?Maker
   DeviceID: $8139
   DeviceName: RTL-8139/8139C/8139D Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
   ClassCode: $20000
   RevisionID: $10
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $1259
   SubsystemID: $2503
   IOSpace0: $60c06100 - $60c061ff
   MemSpace1: $40600000 - $406000ff

Pci Device 7:
   VendorID: $1957
   VendorName: Unknown
   DeviceID: $86
   DeviceName: Unknown
   ClassCode: $b2000
   RevisionID: $30
   InterruptPin: 4
   SubsystemVendorID: $1a56
   SubsystemID: $101
   MemSpace0: $40700000 - $407fffff

As you can see i have the same VendorID $1033.

Cards i am using: ( inserted in my mediator from Top to Bottom)
M1
Radeon
100MB Nic
USB

esel · 06 October 2018, 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

soon as i tx this psu into old case (had to wait on some new switches to get here)
ill be tryin to overclock it and add more ram
im thinking it should at least do 533MHz
we cant change the cpu out unless you made a interposer
so thats that but at least there is mounting holes for a heatsink for those with K1
LED's add a nice red light show on them though lol
was thinking of replacing 2 of them with white for the boing effect
havent looked yet how those are controlled

533 ?! Wow thats alot

kgc210 · 06 October 2018, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

yes they are 100% the same they just downclocked the 8343 to 333 its rated at 400
heatsink is just show
the plastic package keeps these from running what the 8349 does which is 667MHz
though ofc thats just how they were sold the big K heatsink im sure could cool that 8343 overclocked just fine
its a huge chunk of aluminum coated in nickel
though after saying that im not stating the 8343 will hit 667 as other things play into that factor
as the 8349 uses a heatsink when ran at 667 though they all can run 400/333/266 without a heatsink
the pcie version actually uses the older slower 16kb cache core but ran that chip no heatsink at 400

anyways in our case we are using like half the SoC so it should be running WAYYYYYYYYY cooler than it normally does

Is it possible to control the speed from the Amiga? Or would a bios on the K/M1 need flashing?

nexus · 06 October 2018, 20:05

you can only set the speed on power on reset with this cpu

Hedeon · 07 October 2018, 02:07

Further tests show that the M1 hangs when trying to write to frame buffer in any way, when a spider is installed. The thing is that I'm not sure what is happening. Spider.device is not installed. The card does not have an interrupt assigned to it... Maybe something in the pci library?

05 October 2018, 20:45	#2711
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	yes they are 100% the same they just downclocked the 8343 to 333 its rated at 400 heatsink is just show the plastic package keeps these from running what the 8349 does which is 667MHz though ofc thats just how they were sold the big K heatsink im sure could cool that 8343 overclocked just fine its a huge chunk of aluminum coated in nickel though after saying that im not stating the 8343 will hit 667 as other things play into that factor as the 8349 uses a heatsink when ran at 667 though they all can run 400/333/266 without a heatsink the pcie version actually uses the older slower 16kb cache core but ran that chip no heatsink at 400 anyways in our case we are using like half the SoC so it should be running WAYYYYYYYYY cooler than it normally does Last edited by nexus; 05 October 2018 at 22:17.

06 October 2018, 01:28	#2715
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	soon as i tx this psu into old case (had to wait on some new switches to get here) ill be tryin to overclock it and add more ram im thinking it should at least do 533MHz we cant change the cpu out unless you made a interposer so thats that but at least there is mounting holes for a heatsink for those with K1 LED's add a nice red light show on them though lol was thinking of replacing 2 of them with white for the boing effect havent looked yet how those are controlled Last edited by nexus; 06 October 2018 at 01:33.

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04 October 2018, 18:51	#2701
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,356	Bravo!

05 October 2018, 00:07	#2702
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,973	Getting a little further with the real thing, ignore the window title.

05 October 2018, 02:42	#2703
esel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kassel Posts: 160	I just got a M1 and all is working mutch better Quake is running for 30 Min without a crash ! Only thing is i still cant use my USB card and the M1 together. Is there a way to disalbe the usb PCI Card without removing it ?

05 October 2018, 05:38	#2705
esel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kassel Posts: 160	I already tryed that but its not working. as soon as the usb card is only plugged in the mediator the ppc crard will crash. You can see that the memopry is added and after a few seconds the requster "PowerPC CPU possibly crashed during Setup" appers

05 October 2018, 13:54	#2708
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,047	I think I have a spider somewhere. Maybe I can do a fix or workaround. So your ppc card is now working, Esel?

05 October 2018, 18:24	#2709
esel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kassel Posts: 160	Yes, Quake is Running for 2 Hours without crashing. Still dont know Whats wrong with the k1 but as the m1 is working its ok. A fix for the Spider would Be Great ! If you want i can Test some thinks to get the Spider working.

05 October 2018, 21:35	#2712
esel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kassel Posts: 160	hmm.. is it possible to overclock the 1m ?

06 October 2018, 20:05	#2719
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	you can only set the speed on power on reset with this cpu

07 October 2018, 02:07	#2720
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,047	Further tests show that the M1 hangs when trying to write to frame buffer in any way, when a spider is installed. The thing is that I'm not sure what is happening. Spider.device is not installed. The card does not have an interrupt assigned to it... Maybe something in the pci library?

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