Details for the next generation of Flickerfixers from Individual Computers - Page 13

Schoenfeld · 11 September 2011, 20:07

I'm currently doing the back-trapdoor adapter board, and encountered a pleasant surprise that's almost too good to be true. Please check the attached picture - it shows an interruption in that little plastic bar. My DVI-output board will be in that exact position, and one of the pins of the DVI connector requires exactly the space that has been freed with that interruption.

I have three A1200 case revisions, and all of them have this cut-out in the plastic bar. Is there any case revision out there that does NOT have this?

thanks,
Jens

Mr B · 11 September 2011, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

I have three A1200 case revisions, and all of them have this cut-out in the plastic bar. Is there any case revision out there that does NOT have this?

My case doesn't look like that. No cutout at all. Now for the funny part. How to identify what case i got?

Silver sticker at the bottom:
Commodore
Model A1200 ID. No. 530311
Power bleh bleh...
Made in Philippines
Funkensört nach DBP-VFG 1046/1984

White sticker at the bottom:
A1200 SD BARCODE-noncens-
8511093365067004012082

Well, thats all i got.
It's a Swedish version, meaning it got the Swedish keyboard layout. Hope it helps in any way.

(Regardless, it looks easy enough to take that part of the plastic out.)
B!

Schoenfeld · 11 September 2011, 20:55

Thanks - folks on a1k.org also found cases that don't have the cut-out. I have now cut a little on the adapter board and will probably bend that pin aside in production before wave soldering. It'll be a tight fit, but it'll fit.

Jens

johnim · 11 September 2011, 22:38

nice board jens and greatfull keeping this little machine alive with all these addons

john

NovaCoder · 12 September 2011, 05:01

Looking good

magnetic · 12 September 2011, 09:27

Jens

Ok great progress. This is very good news that the adaptor board will fit perfectly at the expansion slot. Many of us like to keep our amigas as pristine as possible so no case cutting.

Exit · 22 September 2011, 17:14

great news on the trapdoor adapter board jens! i want my indivision aga now

Mr B · 28 September 2011, 22:19

Com OOOON! (Peanut does that way better then i do,. high pitch, screeching noise... Well, it's Jeff Dunham doing the actual noise, of course. It's not like i believe the doll actually speaks.) More info is needed. Will this be done in time for me to buy one for my self as a X-mass gift? It's been 2 weeks and more, give us something. ;- )

I agree with the speaker above, and want to add, this thing cant be released soon enough. Yesterday isn't soon enough.

Funny... It sort of feels like i've said that last bit b4...
B!

Schoenfeld · 29 September 2011, 19:48

I have a large amount of projects running at the same time at the moment. I do have new prototype PCBs for this flickerfixer that are "release candidates", but will probably not have the time to test them before tuesday of next week.

Jens

Mr B · 29 September 2011, 20:44

5 days. Lets say 2 more to evaluate the tests. A few days for processing and manufacturing... Ok, so release Monday, the 10'th?

Thank you for dropping by on request and telling us how far along things are. A month or more to wait yet, at least. Have you looked around to see what numbers your going to make this thing in? I'm sort of thinking along the lines "how fast do you need to be to grab one of these" seeing as i managed to get a hold of one of the very last ACA1230/56, and i did that what, about 3 months after release?
(Well, now someone will show up and tell me there is a 56MH ACA1230 still waiting for a buyer somewhere, but i bought mine the 21 of march, and had trouble finding one at that point.)

I wish you luck with finalizing projects, and getting production-runs out of the bakery smoothly ;- )
B!

RMK · 30 September 2011, 21:05

Jens,

Are any of these other projects you in have the works Amiga related projects?

Calabazam · 02 October 2011, 00:19

Please, do not forget when designing this DVI back trapdoor connector that Subway users have USB connectors to put in there too.
USB is more useful than DVI IMHO.
For now, i have room for one VGA and 2 USB leads, and i could even add my SCSI connector from the Blizzard (of course they just get out through the empty space). Don't close it for one not so useful DVI connector.

magnetic · 02 October 2011, 00:49

Sure it would be cool to have a pass through for usb port on the dvi adaptor on the a1200 expansion port, but dont think its a design priority for Jens.

I'm not sure I get this whole DVI is useless argument though.. kind of silly to say that.

Mr B · 02 October 2011, 04:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calabazam

For now, i have room for one VGA and 2 USB leads, and i could even add my SCSI connector from the Blizzard (of course they just get out through the empty space). Don't close it for one not so useful DVI connector.

Not having anything else to pull out through that hole, i can't see any reason NOT to fill the hole. If you want to pull a cable out on next to the DVI connector, use a file, for the rest of us, we'd muck prefer not to have a hole letting in dust and debris... Well, i hope everyone else shares my opinion, but what do i know.B!

chocolate_boy · 09 October 2011, 13:38

Any update on a possible release date? Been desperate for one of these babies for 2 years now

Schoenfeld · 23 October 2011, 17:37

I have a non-functional, mechanical prototype with me here in Sacramento. The big thing is that just before I left Germany, the new 84-pin PLCC sockets arrived: I have made a change to the pin shape, which makes a much better fit for pushing the socket "upside down" on the Lisa chip. Maybe we can do some video today where I can demonstrate the difference.

Jens

NovaCoder · 24 October 2011, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

Maybe we can do some video today where I can demonstrate the difference.

Jens

Something like [ Show youtube player ] then?

Lord Aga · 24 October 2011, 16:23

OMG, that guy not only stole Jens' ideas for flickerfixers, but he also copied his looks into the finest details !

Mr B · 24 October 2011, 16:58

Will that amount of force to mount the MKII be safe for a motherboard in it's case, or should one remove the motherboard, and mate the parts (for life) on a flat surface, say a table...?

I'm guessing it's going to be safe enough to assemble, but it should be asked, the amount of force needed really is a lot by the looks of things. Should keep it from getting unstuck.

Also, the 4 holes in the laminated board, are they to stay? I'm thinking something along the lines of sticking something like builders glue (PL400) heat glue, or something there to really make it permanent. (trying to remove it after tacking it in place with PL400 likely means tearing and shredding of your hardware)
B!

Schoenfeld · 24 October 2011, 19:12

The manual always stated "place board on a level surface and push". You should not install things like this in a tower without supporting the motherboard.

This applies to all things that plug over a chip: Gayle-adapter of IDE-fix express, Lyra 2 for A1200, accelerator for A600.

If you follow the manual closely, there's nothing to worry about.

Jens

11 September 2011, 20:07	#241
Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,258	I'm currently doing the back-trapdoor adapter board, and encountered a pleasant surprise that's almost too good to be true. Please check the attached picture - it shows an interruption in that little plastic bar. My DVI-output board will be in that exact position, and one of the pins of the DVI connector requires exactly the space that has been freed with that interruption. I have three A1200 case revisions, and all of them have this cut-out in the plastic bar. Is there any case revision out there that does NOT have this? thanks, Jens Attached Thumbnails

11 September 2011, 20:55	#243
Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,258	Thanks - folks on a1k.org also found cases that don't have the cut-out. I have now cut a little on the adapter board and will probably bend that pin aside in production before wave soldering. It'll be a tight fit, but it'll fit. Jens Attached Thumbnails

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11 September 2011, 22:38	#244
johnim Amibay Mod/Staff Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: birmingham uk Age: 48 Posts: 1,019	nice board jens and greatfull keeping this little machine alive with all these addons john

12 September 2011, 05:01	#245
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,426	Looking good

12 September 2011, 09:27	#246
magnetic Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 244	Jens Ok great progress. This is very good news that the adaptor board will fit perfectly at the expansion slot. Many of us like to keep our amigas as pristine as possible so no case cutting.

22 September 2011, 17:14	#247
Exit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Holland/The netherlands Age: 50 Posts: 122	great news on the trapdoor adapter board jens! i want my indivision aga now

28 September 2011, 22:19	#248
Mr B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 749	Com OOOON! (Peanut does that way better then i do,. high pitch, screeching noise... Well, it's Jeff Dunham doing the actual noise, of course. It's not like i believe the doll actually speaks.) More info is needed. Will this be done in time for me to buy one for my self as a X-mass gift? It's been 2 weeks and more, give us something. ;- ) I agree with the speaker above, and want to add, this thing cant be released soon enough. Yesterday isn't soon enough. Funny... It sort of feels like i've said that last bit b4... B!

29 September 2011, 19:48	#249
Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,258	I have a large amount of projects running at the same time at the moment. I do have new prototype PCBs for this flickerfixer that are "release candidates", but will probably not have the time to test them before tuesday of next week. Jens

29 September 2011, 20:44	#250
Mr B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 749	5 days. Lets say 2 more to evaluate the tests. A few days for processing and manufacturing... Ok, so release Monday, the 10'th? Thank you for dropping by on request and telling us how far along things are. A month or more to wait yet, at least. Have you looked around to see what numbers your going to make this thing in? I'm sort of thinking along the lines "how fast do you need to be to grab one of these" seeing as i managed to get a hold of one of the very last ACA1230/56, and i did that what, about 3 months after release? (Well, now someone will show up and tell me there is a 56MH ACA1230 still waiting for a buyer somewhere, but i bought mine the 21 of march, and had trouble finding one at that point.) I wish you luck with finalizing projects, and getting production-runs out of the bakery smoothly ;- ) B!

30 September 2011, 21:05	#251
RMK Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 189	Jens, Are any of these other projects you in have the works Amiga related projects?

02 October 2011, 00:19	#252
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 515	Please, do not forget when designing this DVI back trapdoor connector that Subway users have USB connectors to put in there too. USB is more useful than DVI IMHO. For now, i have room for one VGA and 2 USB leads, and i could even add my SCSI connector from the Blizzard (of course they just get out through the empty space). Don't close it for one not so useful DVI connector.

02 October 2011, 00:49	#253
magnetic Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 244	Sure it would be cool to have a pass through for usb port on the dvi adaptor on the a1200 expansion port, but dont think its a design priority for Jens. I'm not sure I get this whole DVI is useless argument though.. kind of silly to say that.

09 October 2011, 13:38	#255
chocolate_boy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 230	Any update on a possible release date? Been desperate for one of these babies for 2 years now

23 October 2011, 17:37	#256
Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,258	I have a non-functional, mechanical prototype with me here in Sacramento. The big thing is that just before I left Germany, the new 84-pin PLCC sockets arrived: I have made a change to the pin shape, which makes a much better fit for pushing the socket "upside down" on the Lisa chip. Maybe we can do some video today where I can demonstrate the difference. Jens

24 October 2011, 16:23	#258
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	OMG, that guy not only stole Jens' ideas for flickerfixers, but he also copied his looks into the finest details !

24 October 2011, 16:58	#259
Mr B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 749	Will that amount of force to mount the MKII be safe for a motherboard in it's case, or should one remove the motherboard, and mate the parts (for life) on a flat surface, say a table...? I'm guessing it's going to be safe enough to assemble, but it should be asked, the amount of force needed really is a lot by the looks of things. Should keep it from getting unstuck. Also, the 4 holes in the laminated board, are they to stay? I'm thinking something along the lines of sticking something like builders glue (PL400) heat glue, or something there to really make it permanent. (trying to remove it after tacking it in place with PL400 likely means tearing and shredding of your hardware) B!

24 October 2011, 19:12	#260
Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,258	The manual always stated "place board on a level surface and push". You should not install things like this in a tower without supporting the motherboard. This applies to all things that plug over a chip: Gayle-adapter of IDE-fix express, Lyra 2 for A1200, accelerator for A600. If you follow the manual closely, there's nothing to worry about. Jens

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