Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 123

Hedeon · 15 August 2018, 01:27

What Greg says.

But what nexus says (but what I didn't mean) also holds:

The settings are read from a firmware. I also know where in the address space of the PPC the firmware resides. It is read-only....I think.

nexus · 15 August 2018, 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Right but what I think Hedeon is saying is the library is going to read out the PLL however that is set {firmware?, resistors?} and the library timing is going to be set up wrong. Which is easily solvable, like he says just needs to dump some info out of it and set it up for the current operating speed.

Or if it's software programmable (which it probably is) then switch it to 400Mhz or whatever multiplier you want.

thats why im not sure yet why im guessing but it is a 400mhz rated chip
and besides the reviews on hardware sites all mine have qimonda DDR400 which we are currently running at 266 as thats what they had it at
so i see lots of room for improvement on the speed of this card
im hoping it can do 667mhz like its brothers can(MPC8347/8349) ofc with a active heatsink
i bet those tiny chipset coolers be fine for that and it has mounts so should be no issues
just fyi the 8349 can run 333mhz bus which i wanna test if the 8343 can hit that

Hedeon · 15 August 2018, 02:23

More RAM is better than more speed for this card IMHO.

nexus · 15 August 2018, 02:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

More RAM is better than more speed for this card IMHO.

why anyone who upgrades this version card should use DDR2 but really DDR400 is DDR2 DDR400=DDR2-400 difference is DDR400=200MHz bus clock where DDR2-400 is 100MHz
both are PC(2)-3200
the fact it has a DDR2 controller just lets you run faster DDR2 while getting lower timings and more ram
though you have only 2 spots and you need x16 chips 60pin
need to cherry pick through my stash

nexus · 15 August 2018, 07:07

the pcie version i found out are MPC8314E that use the slower e300c3 core which is 16KB L1 cache but same core etc speeds and the extra 128MB DDR2

Hedeon · 15 August 2018, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigolemon

Killer K1 in the post, and have a 1200 with the Mediator TX in it. Happy to help by testing as required once it gets here

Latest update (378) made the A1200 support for the M1 on-par with the other cards. As in: you can play software rendered QuakeWOS without sound. Whoopee :-)

All other stuff without sound or 3D acceleration works.

-> A1200 support is just a bonus at this moment and not official <-

Edit: Oooh and Q2 in 320x240 in software and without sound (-nosound) on the Radeon.

indigolemon · 15 August 2018, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Latest update (378) made the A1200 support for the M1 on-par with the other cards. As in: you can play software rendered QuakeWOS without sound. Whoopee :-)

All other stuff without sound or 3D acceleration works.

-> A1200 support is just a bonus at this moment and not official <-

Edit: Oooh and Q2 in 320x240 in software and without sound (-nosound) on the Radeon.

You're a legend sir

TBH, at the price I paid for the card, everything is definitely a bonus here

nexus · 16 August 2018, 01:12

https://hothardware.com/news/amiga-e...erpc-processor
https://amitopia.com/powerpc-upgrade...a-mediatorpci/

BULI · 16 August 2018, 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Latest update (378) made the A1200 support for the M1 on-par with the other cards. As in: you can play software rendered QuakeWOS without sound. Whoopee :-)

All other stuff without sound or 3D acceleration works.

-> A1200 support is just a bonus at this moment and not official <-

Edit: Oooh and Q2 in 320x240 in software and without sound (-nosound) on the Radeon.

Wonderful work!

jbenam · 16 August 2018, 20:19

Alright, nabbed one of those "LittleWeenie" cards nexus linked me to. Anyone has some advice for a dirt-cheap PCI-to-PCIe Adapter I can buy?
Thanks

nexus · 16 August 2018, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

Alright, nabbed one of those "LittleWeenie" cards nexus linked me to. Anyone has some advice for a dirt-cheap PCI-to-PCIe Adapter I can buy?
Thanks

i didnt link you a PCI-E version as they arent tested

AJCopland · 16 August 2018, 21:43

If cards with an MPC7410 work, then do/could other cards with MPC7457, MPC 7747a and MPC7448 work as well?

Or is it less to do with the CPU and more the bridge chip used MPC/TSi107 or Harrier?

Just wondering how big the pool of potential PMC cards actually is.

nexus · 16 August 2018, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJCopland

If cards with an MPC7410 work, then do/could other cards with MPC7457, MPC 7747a and MPC7448 work as well?

Or is it less to do with the CPU and more the bridge chip used MPC/TSi107 or Harrier?

Just wondering how big the pool of potential PMC cards actually is.

look at the wiki it shows what we support in PMC cards
yes we support those cpus but not all bridges attached to them
we already run them but the boards we use you will not find
i have a 7457 hedeon has ran 7441
also some are running 750FX at 1GHz

AJCopland · 16 August 2018, 22:02

Ok thanks for the answer

rzookol · 16 August 2018, 22:05

Do the Bigfoot k1/m1 cards require 3.3V or it can work with 5V mediator also?

nexus · 16 August 2018, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by rzookol

Do the Bigfoot k1/m1 cards require 3.3V or it can work with 5V mediator also?

killer nic is universal pci should work in either though not sure on the power 3.3v or 5v

jbenam · 16 August 2018, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexus

i didnt link you a PCI-E version as they arent tested

Craaaaap. I must've got it mixed up with those I was watching on eBay... Oh well, I suppose I'll be the first one to test those!

nexus · 16 August 2018, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

Craaaaap. I must've got it mixed up with those I was watching on eBay... Oh well, I suppose I'll be the first one to test those!

yeah i cant test yet as im still waiting for mine to arrive stuck in USPS bs for a week now
the pci to pcie adapters are cheap from startech
but again not tested

nexus · 17 August 2018, 09:49

looking at the killer cards that are PCI they look to be using both 3.3v and 5v power pins so guess 5v are gonna need a mod
for those with 5v mediators you could always add 3.3v power to something like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Male-to...gAAOSwNNVbCRKK
if you have 3.3v psu or 5v to 3.3v converter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2A-DC-5V-23...kAAOSwCLNbMJ94
though it might still be 5v compatible hard to tell considering all the chips used on it
all my mediators are 3.3v so cant test

rzookol · 17 August 2018, 10:47

Ok, I bought two Bigfoot NICs, should have them within 2 weeks so i'll test.

17 August 2018, 09:49	#2459
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	looking at the killer cards that are PCI they look to be using both 3.3v and 5v power pins so guess 5v are gonna need a mod for those with 5v mediators you could always add 3.3v power to something like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Male-to...gAAOSwNNVbCRKK if you have 3.3v psu or 5v to 3.3v converter https://www.ebay.com/itm/2A-DC-5V-23...kAAOSwCLNbMJ94 though it might still be 5v compatible hard to tell considering all the chips used on it all my mediators are 3.3v so cant test Last edited by nexus; 17 August 2018 at 10:00.

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15 August 2018, 01:27	#2441
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,039	What Greg says. But what nexus says (but what I didn't mean) also holds: The settings are read from a firmware. I also know where in the address space of the PPC the firmware resides. It is read-only....I think.

15 August 2018, 02:23	#2443
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,039	More RAM is better than more speed for this card IMHO.

15 August 2018, 07:07	#2445
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	the pcie version i found out are MPC8314E that use the slower e300c3 core which is 16KB L1 cache but same core etc speeds and the extra 128MB DDR2

16 August 2018, 01:12	#2448
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	https://hothardware.com/news/amiga-e...erpc-processor https://amitopia.com/powerpc-upgrade...a-mediatorpci/

16 August 2018, 20:19	#2450
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,913	Alright, nabbed one of those "LittleWeenie" cards nexus linked me to. Anyone has some advice for a dirt-cheap PCI-to-PCIe Adapter I can buy? Thanks

16 August 2018, 21:43	#2452
AJCopland Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Beeston, Nottinghamshire, UK Posts: 240	If cards with an MPC7410 work, then do/could other cards with MPC7457, MPC 7747a and MPC7448 work as well? Or is it less to do with the CPU and more the bridge chip used MPC/TSi107 or Harrier? Just wondering how big the pool of potential PMC cards actually is.

16 August 2018, 22:02	#2454
AJCopland Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Beeston, Nottinghamshire, UK Posts: 240	Ok thanks for the answer

16 August 2018, 22:05	#2455
rzookol Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stasin/Poland Posts: 47	Do the Bigfoot k1/m1 cards require 3.3V or it can work with 5V mediator also?

17 August 2018, 10:47	#2460
rzookol Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stasin/Poland Posts: 47	Ok, I bought two Bigfoot NICs, should have them within 2 weeks so i'll test.

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