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13 August 2018, 19:55 | #2425 |
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900mhz ok so far
I wonder why grelbfarlk’s memory is a little faster? Last edited by trixster; 13 August 2018 at 20:42. |
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maybe look at your ram timings?
he is always tweaking or maybe you 2 have different ram chips |
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Yeah you caught me. I've tweaked the memory timings a bit, I can give you the turbo-mem version, but it's not really much faster and I figured I only had a sample size of one to tell whether it's stable or not. So I didn't really pursue with Hedeon making it standard. |
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That, and I don't see a 1:1 translation to real-life applications. My 450MHz Harrier card is faster in writing (up to 2 times) than this 900MHz card for example. I think it is a bogus benchmark.
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Yeah, me/we/somebody thought SysSpeed just reacted really well to more L2 cache like the whole test set fits in it. Warprace is also pretty suspect too as that gives 1800MB/s in some tests.
If you look back at my old Rapture overclocking, every 50MHz makes the memory test in Sysspeed noticeably slower. But RAM is just one component of overall performance. With the tweaked RAM settings it's worth maybe another 1-1.5 FPS in GL games, so hardly worth it. Code:
Demo Sonnet 500MHz G3 PrPMC 450MHz G4 Killer NIC 400MHz Ragnarok 950MHz RAM+ 320x240 640x480 320x240 640x480 320x240 640x480 320x240 640x480 QuakeWOS (2) 68.3 24.6 93.0 40.3 60.0 25.3 119.3 50.4 glQuake (1) x 48.9 x 50.1 x 44.5 x 54.0 Quake II (1) x 51.2 x 55.1 x 44.3 x 66.6 Quake III (4) x 28.3 x 32.0 x a x x Last edited by grelbfarlk; 14 August 2018 at 01:28. |
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Okay, so I've been following this from the sidelines (lurking) and I'm ready to get onboard Congrats to Hedeon et al for the massive achievements posted in this thread.
I'm looking for a Mediator 4000Di currently, but it shouldn't be too difficult to get one so I expect to nab one soon (if you have one you don't need anymore, PM me!). I can see people referring to cards using codenames - I've grasped most of 'em, except the Ragnarok. What is that? Some super-secret card muggles don't need to know about? As for the Rapture, I just see crazy prices going around - I suppose someone must've caught wind of this thread and just thought of gouging us all? Anyway, I'm on the lookout for a LittleWeenie (tm) on Fleabay, but I don't expect one to pop up soon. I also need to put my m4d BGA soldering sk1llz to use, so I'm kinda prepared to do freakish PPC transplants and the likes. tl;dr - can someone PM me where I can find a cheapish card I can start with? Thanks |
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The code names for cards are used just to protect against scalpers in initial phase of development. It's not that anyone wants to limit availability of hardware to the users.
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better grab 1 now |
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But if someone has one and is willing to read out some data I'll have that fixed in 5 minutes. A1200 support is zero on these cards. (In contrast to the other cards which have very basic unofficial support). |
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dont think so as the firmware set it to 333mhz but the chip should be same 400 as on all the pcie version that doesnt use heatsink is also same chip also since we arent using the full SoC it should be using way less power and producing less heat |
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Don't think so regarding what? The library needs to know what PLL settings go to what speed. It only knows 400MHz at the moment. So it will have the internal library timing wrong, which is bus clock / 4 for time base and decrementer updates. Unknown bus clock (in case of the 333MHz version) means unknown internal timings regarding the library and it will report the SysTime wrong and also have a wrong quantum/slice for the task switching.
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400mhz is the stock setting for 8343 rest run 667mhz(8347/8349) there is no 333mhz chip sold the 400/333/266 are just dividers it runs at to run low power in embedded devices eg routers etc only reason i can see why the K1 is the only card at that clock is cause it was the cheaper option at the time with the M1 being the flag ship with everything enabled eg FNAapps were not on default in K1 since none paid that ridiculous price in the gaming world for a nic which was the market for this they made all versions after which are pcie cards stripped of every costing $$$$$ so thats what they are just a 8343 though they did atleast change the ddr400 to ddr2 and add extra 64mb im also guessing that the faster and extra ram is because instead of using fpga and that broadcom nic to do the work they used the 8343 built in versions of those but just guesses pcie versions were the cheapest the M1 being the most expensive this is why i hope the pci to pcie adapter work ok in mediator as there are mny of the cheaper pcie variant due to dell/alienware using them Last edited by nexus; 15 August 2018 at 01:21. |
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Right but what I think Hedeon is saying is the library is going to read out the PLL however that is set {firmware?, resistors?} and the library timing is going to be set up wrong. Which is easily solvable, like he says just needs to dump some info out of it and set it up for the current operating speed. Or if it's software programmable (which it probably is) then switch it to 400Mhz or whatever multiplier you want. |
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