A600 4MB RAM upgrade board (was 8MB) - Page 12

Lord Aga · 24 July 2012, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

i have a few built and will be running a memchecker to verify them

Please run Sysinfo while you're at it, we want to see the speed boost

alenppc · 24 July 2012, 20:54

I am interested in the A500 4Mb version.

duga · 24 July 2012, 22:53

Some benchmarks please.

keitha1200 · 24 July 2012, 23:20

I am on Amibay also

Sooo where do i and other EAB members order from? here or Amibay?

cheers

TjLaZer · 25 July 2012, 05:13

I want one A600 4MB and one A500 4MB and one A500 8MB.

kipper2k · 25 July 2012, 15:16

Here is sysinfo for the A600.... Distortion is from my camera

first 2 is base 1 mb A600, last 2 pics are with the 4mb ram board.

now 4mb board attached....

For orders i will create a fror Sale thread on Amibay either tonight or tomorrow and will take orders from there. Those people who have already expressed interest elsewhere (here, my direct email etc), will still be looked after based on chronological order (Who asked first). I will probably ship the first orders on Friday or Monday, i dont want to throw them out without doing the memcheck and a little warming up etc

duga · 25 July 2012, 15:51

33% Speed increase, not bad.

kipper2k · 25 July 2012, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by duga

33% Speed increase, not bad.

yah, not bad for just added memory

protek · 25 July 2012, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

Those people who have already expressed interest elsewhere (here, my direct email etc), will still be looked after based on chronological order (Who asked first).

Will you be contacting us with payment instructions or should we contact you?

Lord Aga · 25 July 2012, 17:14

Holy guacamole !
33% speed boost

If this had been the default configuration at launch time (or at least 1 chip + 2 fast), A600 would have been a serious machine.

Me wanty.
Can't remember if I already said that somewhere, so better to repeat it

amiman99 · 25 July 2012, 21:25

@kipper2k
I sent you an email asking for PSX adapter, A500 8Meg and A600 4Meg boards. Ready to give you the money!

TjLaZer · 26 July 2012, 02:49

Will the A500 version fit in the CDTV?

kipper2k · 26 July 2012, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Will the A500 version fit in the CDTV?

Maybe, I have someone who can check that. if it doesn't fit then i'll try to alter the design to make it fit.

@thread.

I have posted a for sale on Amibay for this item. For those people who have already expressed interest, you are at the top of the list, any new requests on this thread will compete with Amibay based on time placed

Thanks to all for your interest

spock-79 · 26 July 2012, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

@thread.

I have posted a for sale on Amibay for this item. For those people who have already expressed interest, you are at the top of the list, any new requests on this thread will compete with Amibay based on time placed

Alright... If the price for one PCB is really 10CAD i have to withdrawn my interest...

The price of the original design from this expansion was fully assembled only 26€, and i thought that was expensive..... Didn't somebody here in this thread say that it must be possible to build a fully assembled board for about 10€?

duga · 26 July 2012, 22:02

6,9 x 39 = 269,1 SEK
8,5 x 26 = 221 SEK

Not a big difference.

spock-79 · 26 July 2012, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by duga

6,9 x 39 = 269,1 SEK
8,5 x 26 = 221 SEK

Not a big difference.

That's right, but if i could get hold on cheap RAM chips, the expansion could be sold for less than 15€

... The only problem for ME is to get the damned RAM chips for a reasonable price!

duga · 26 July 2012, 22:45

That's the problem: "if".

kipper2k · 27 July 2012, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by spock-79

That's right, but if i could get hold on cheap RAM chips, the expansion could be sold for less than 15€

... The only problem for ME is to get the damned RAM chips for a reasonable price!

By the time everything is sourced and you pay for all parts, mailing, duties, development etc then your 15 euro doesnt come close, especially when UPS charge their brokerage fees for any delivery coming from outside of Canada where most parts come from. The price for the boards are the same price that NedoPC was charging for his, the price for the blank boards themselves are almost identical so i cannot see how you are saying the cost is high. Go on Ebay and try to buy a 512k ram for an A500 or a 1m board for the A600, i think you'll see the price of my boards are very cheap

here's a sample cost on ebay for you.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Commodore-Ami...item2c66763edd

spock-79 · 27 July 2012, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

By the time everything is sourced and you pay for all parts, mailing, duties, development etc then your 15 euro doesnt come close, especially when UPS charge their brokerage fees for any delivery coming from outside of Canada where most parts come from. The price for the boards are the same price that NedoPC was charging for his, the price for the blank boards themselves are almost identical so i cannot see how you are saying the cost is high. Go on Ebay and try to buy a 512k ram for an A500 or a 1m board for the A600, i think you'll see the price of my boards are very cheap

here's a sample cost on ebay for you.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Commodore-Ami...item2c66763edd

This shouldn't be an attack on you, or your products!!!

The normal auction price for a 512kb board in germany is between 3 and 10€..

Sure you can earn money with that expansion, but this was never my intention! If somebody can get the RAM chips for 2,50€, then he is definitely able to build the expansion for 15€!

sanjyuubi · 27 July 2012, 12:56

Hey, kipper2k.

If i were you i would ignore complains about high price (because its not high). There are always people who wish to buy everything at parts price. This might be OK if you have to run small batch so you wont get bothered about it, but if there is quite amount of it, it consumes your precious time you could spent for e.g with family or doing something life would reward you. I will only say that i sold 9.5MB expansion for about 75 EURO and i saw many times people who get their hand on it, to sold it for similar price (it was auction with bidding). Yo can get an idea that people would give you more then they initially saying. Unless doing it is your solid goal no matter what, nobody have right to take part of your life without fair exchange, trying to force it is even worse.

BTW, sysinfo shows some boost because there are no waitstates when accessing fast unlike CHIPmem when its busy, but if you try to test memory speed its same as CHIPRAM. Only one true possibility to boost speed is to add faster CPU with faster memory.

25 July 2012, 15:16	#226
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	Here is sysinfo for the A600.... Distortion is from my camera first 2 is base 1 mb A600, last 2 pics are with the 4mb ram board. now 4mb board attached.... For orders i will create a fror Sale thread on Amibay either tonight or tomorrow and will take orders from there. Those people who have already expressed interest elsewhere (here, my direct email etc), will still be looked after based on chronological order (Who asked first). I will probably ship the first orders on Friday or Monday, i dont want to throw them out without doing the memcheck and a little warming up etc Last edited by kipper2k; 25 July 2012 at 15:26.

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25 July 2012, 15:51	#227
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25 July 2012, 17:14	#230
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amiman99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX USA Age: 50 Posts: 1,185	@kipper2k I sent you an email asking for PSX adapter, A500 8Meg and A600 4Meg boards. Ready to give you the money!

26 July 2012, 02:49	#232
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,927	Will the A500 version fit in the CDTV?

26 July 2012, 22:02	#235
duga Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 528	6,9 x 39 = 269,1 SEK 8,5 x 26 = 221 SEK Not a big difference.

26 July 2012, 22:45	#237
duga Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 528	That's the problem: "if".

27 July 2012, 12:56	#240
sanjyuubi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 64	Hey, kipper2k. If i were you i would ignore complains about high price (because its not high). There are always people who wish to buy everything at parts price. This might be OK if you have to run small batch so you wont get bothered about it, but if there is quite amount of it, it consumes your precious time you could spent for e.g with family or doing something life would reward you. I will only say that i sold 9.5MB expansion for about 75 EURO and i saw many times people who get their hand on it, to sold it for similar price (it was auction with bidding). Yo can get an idea that people would give you more then they initially saying. Unless doing it is your solid goal no matter what, nobody have right to take part of your life without fair exchange, trying to force it is even worse. BTW, sysinfo shows some boost because there are no waitstates when accessing fast unlike CHIPmem when its busy, but if you try to test memory speed its same as CHIPRAM. Only one true possibility to boost speed is to add faster CPU with faster memory.

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