Sonnet 7200 PCI programming - Page 114

Hedeon · 14 July 2018, 10:58

What does getinfo say with 354 and with 355?

Wrangler · 14 July 2018, 18:35

Bwahaha! The Ragnarok lives!

v359 of the library just resulted in lock ups for me so this is v354 which works just fine. (But Getinfo doesn't recognise the chip as shown)

And my 80MHz upgrade for my Apollo 4060 works great too

(Yes, grelbfarlk, before you say it, it's not quite as fast as yours!)

Hedeon · 14 July 2018, 19:18

That's because you are not using the latest version. 355 adds the recognition for 750FX. Which one is the last that doesn't lock the system? Which card do you have? What do you mean with lock up....

Guys I don't like this "it doesn't work" without any info.

Marlon_ · 14 July 2018, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Guys I don't like this "it doesn't work" without any info.

Story of my life as a professional developer. “It doesn’t work” is as useful as saying nothing.

Wrangler · 14 July 2018, 19:39

It locks up = the system hangs and is completely unresponsive. No mouse movement, no activity.

This is with a PrPMC8150 card. I haven't systematically tried different versions, unlike trixster. v354 works, v359 does not

What other information would you like??

nexus · 14 July 2018, 19:40

dont be ashamed of showing vids of issues etc
it is 2018 a vid is just as easy as a pic
just sayin

though would like to see some vids of these cards in action

Hedeon · 14 July 2018, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler

It locks up = the system hangs and is completely unresponsive. No mouse movement, no activity.

This is with a PrPMC8150 card. I haven't systematically tried different versions, unlike trixster. v354 works, v359 does not

What other information would you like??

Lock up...when? What about 355, 356, 357, 358? And the latest? Which isn't 359.

trixster · 14 July 2018, 20:43

I’ll try 355 again this evening, just been too busy with life-admin today!

Wrangler · 14 July 2018, 21:46

OK, videos are on the way once Youtube finishes processing...

Actually the problems occur for me between v355 (good) and v356 (bad). I've also found that WhichAmiga crashes (as opposed to locking up) on v356 with continuous powerpc exceptions but you'll see it in the vid.

Hedeon · 14 July 2018, 21:57

And 357 and 358? They fixed stuff regarding your card.

Wrangler · 14 July 2018, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

And 357 and 358? They fixed stuff regarding your card.

They behaved the same as 356 with WhichAmiga ie a continuous sequence of powerpc exceptions.

trixster · 14 July 2018, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

What does getinfo say with 354 and with 355?

Getinfo with 354 and 355 appear identical. The first is 354, the second 355

I’ve just tried 355 - gears locked the system hard after about 10 seconds.

Hedeon · 15 July 2018, 01:00

The problem is that 355 to 359 only impact .... Ragnarok.. And anything past that the A1200... So the Rapture is not affected in any of those builds.

Wrangler · 15 July 2018, 10:03

OK, so I finally got videos to upload to Youtube. The first shows 355 working fine on a PrPMC8150 (nexus this is for you!)

[ Show youtube player ]

The second one is WhichAmiga spawning multiple powerpc exceptions in 356.

[ Show youtube player ]

Let me know if you need more info

nexus · 15 July 2018, 11:35

ah was hoping to see some smokinguns or openarena action
i dont have a 750FX atm
i like comparing the games vs NG amigas

Hedeon · 15 July 2018, 12:31

Ermm...There is no difference between 355 and 356....it's a double build. Both even have the same time on Jenkins (0:51)

Also there is no difference between 354 and 355 regarding Rapture. The setup is 100% identical between the versions.

Wrangler · 15 July 2018, 13:28

Whaaat?! OK, maybe there is some hardware issue going on. It's really hot here in the UK so I wonder if that is causing some of the stability problems. I'll look into it. Thanks Hedeon.

Hedeon · 15 July 2018, 13:46

Regarding the Rapture...something strange is going on. A reset of the Amiga does not seem to reset the PCI card. The PPC is still running after a reset. Only turning the Amiga off helps. Not sure how this is happening.

Edit: Must be my machine. Now it is working as intended again...

Cowcat · 15 July 2018, 14:22

Quote:

Must be my machine. Now it is working as intended again...

Don't know if you have a refrigerator near your computers, but with this heat wave some of my stuff starts to fail (like a hard drive goin' nuts). Not my MOS hardware, but I suspect that the last year summer finished my blizzardppc.

Hedeon · 15 July 2018, 14:32

I turned on a fan which is blowing on the A3000 atm, yeah.

Edit:

Went back to 335 and for simple stuff the Rapture is working, but Warp3D demos crash. I'm blaming my old PSU. It used to work with my new (now broken) PSU and I cannot test the rapture correctly at the moment.

14 July 2018, 19:18	#2263
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	That's because you are not using the latest version. 355 adds the recognition for 750FX. Which one is the last that doesn't lock the system? Which card do you have? What do you mean with lock up.... Guys I don't like this "it doesn't work" without any info. Last edited by Hedeon; 14 July 2018 at 19:33.

15 July 2018, 12:31	#2276
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	Ermm...There is no difference between 355 and 356....it's a double build. Both even have the same time on Jenkins (0:51) Also there is no difference between 354 and 355 regarding Rapture. The setup is 100% identical between the versions. Last edited by Hedeon; 15 July 2018 at 12:45.

15 July 2018, 13:46	#2278
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	Regarding the Rapture...something strange is going on. A reset of the Amiga does not seem to reset the PCI card. The PPC is still running after a reset. Only turning the Amiga off helps. Not sure how this is happening. Edit: Must be my machine. Now it is working as intended again... Last edited by Hedeon; 15 July 2018 at 14:05. Reason: Weirdness

15 July 2018, 14:32	#2280
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	I turned on a fan which is blowing on the A3000 atm, yeah. Edit: Went back to 335 and for simple stuff the Rapture is working, but Warp3D demos crash. I'm blaming my old PSU. It used to work with my new (now broken) PSU and I cannot test the rapture correctly at the moment. Last edited by Hedeon; 15 July 2018 at 15:00.

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14 July 2018, 10:58	#2261
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	What does getinfo say with 354 and with 355?

14 July 2018, 18:35	#2262
Wrangler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London, UK Posts: 419	Bwahaha! The Ragnarok lives! v359 of the library just resulted in lock ups for me so this is v354 which works just fine. (But Getinfo doesn't recognise the chip as shown) And my 80MHz upgrade for my Apollo 4060 works great too (Yes, grelbfarlk, before you say it, it's not quite as fast as yours!)

14 July 2018, 19:39	#2265
Wrangler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London, UK Posts: 419	It locks up = the system hangs and is completely unresponsive. No mouse movement, no activity. This is with a PrPMC8150 card. I haven't systematically tried different versions, unlike trixster. v354 works, v359 does not What other information would you like??

14 July 2018, 19:40	#2266
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	dont be ashamed of showing vids of issues etc it is 2018 a vid is just as easy as a pic just sayin though would like to see some vids of these cards in action

14 July 2018, 20:43	#2268
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,356	I’ll try 355 again this evening, just been too busy with life-admin today!

14 July 2018, 21:46	#2269
Wrangler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London, UK Posts: 419	OK, videos are on the way once Youtube finishes processing... Actually the problems occur for me between v355 (good) and v356 (bad). I've also found that WhichAmiga crashes (as opposed to locking up) on v356 with continuous powerpc exceptions but you'll see it in the vid.

14 July 2018, 21:57	#2270
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	And 357 and 358? They fixed stuff regarding your card.

15 July 2018, 01:00	#2273
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,048	The problem is that 355 to 359 only impact .... Ragnarok.. And anything past that the A1200... So the Rapture is not affected in any of those builds.

15 July 2018, 10:03	#2274
Wrangler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London, UK Posts: 419	OK, so I finally got videos to upload to Youtube. The first shows 355 working fine on a PrPMC8150 (nexus this is for you!) [ Show youtube player ] The second one is WhichAmiga spawning multiple powerpc exceptions in 356. [ Show youtube player ] Let me know if you need more info

15 July 2018, 11:35	#2275
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	ah was hoping to see some smokinguns or openarena action i dont have a 750FX atm i like comparing the games vs NG amigas

15 July 2018, 13:28	#2277
Wrangler Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London, UK Posts: 419	Whaaat?! OK, maybe there is some hardware issue going on. It's really hot here in the UK so I wonder if that is causing some of the stability problems. I'll look into it. Thanks Hedeon.

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