American Laser Games (Mad Dog McCree and others)

[AnnaWu]

If someone is capable to rip/convert from the CD/DVD image to a single video file then it makes sense for me.
Installed SINGE files makes no sense, I think.

[Retro1234]

Im getting to confused the DVD version of the game probably wont work but if the laser disc video is in a DVD format or anything else divx, mpeg2 etc its ok.

[emufan]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Yeah, you are right. They contain loads of *.dat, *.m2v, *.ogg, etc. files

looks like video and audio splitted, if they are in the correct order, we can glue them together in one file.
i think ffmpeg can do this.

@AnnaWu: what is on those CDs/DVDs? one big videofile or also split parts?

[AnnaWu]

Splitted parts on CD* image with different format (*.mpg, *.wav, ...)
DVD* image files are splitted and different too (*AUDIO_TS/*VIDEO_TS (.VOB, ...))

[Retro1234]

Im to confused Laser Disc video rip are only useful files not DVD version of game. Doesnt matter if split etc they can be combined again. I remember TMPGEnc was quite good for combining wav and mpg.

probably have to wait for earok unless anyone can confirm the situation.

[DamienD]

Attached is a "dir" listing of all files / folders in the "maddog.zip" file.

Ok, will re-upload this "maddog.zip" file to SendSpace in order for earok to look into

[Retro1234]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Attached is a "dir" listing of all files / folders in the "maddog.zip" file.

Ok, will re-upload this "maddog.zip" file to SendSpace in order for earok to look into

The m2v files are probably ok if they originated from the Laser Disc but I think not looking at the names

[emufan]

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

Splitted parts on CD* image with different format (*.mpg, *.wav, ...)
DVD* image is different too (*AUDIO_TS/*VIDEO_TS (.VOB)

ah, ok, so there is some "work" required too. never rip'ed/converted a dvd, but there are plenty of tools out there.

Originally Posted by DamienD

Attached is a "dir" listing of all files / folders in the "maddog.zip" file.

thats something for "ffmpeg - HowTo merge video and audio track"
for each pair, we need something like that (not exactly sure) :

ffmpeg -i video-01.m2v -i audio-01.ogg -c:v copy -c:a mp2 output-01.mpg

the output-xx.mpg files we can later glue together, using ffmpeg too, while converting to a avi or mp4.
maybe ffmpeg can read in a file list, or use some pattern, holding the correct order.
should decrease the filesize alot

[Retro1234]

Unfortunately we dont know the original order of the video.

[AnnaWu]

Originally Posted by Retro1234

The m2v files are probably ok if they originated from the Laser Disc but I think not looking at the names

SINGE files are NOT from a original Laser Disc.
The most are from CD and only few from DVD like Hologram Time Traveller, converted by SINGE installer. That's it.

[Mad-Matt]

There is a file which list the file order and what frame they start on. Not home right now to check what it is.

I did build the video file a month ago (not to frame accuracy at this stage) but was never able to get winuae to play the video properly (or any of the other uploaded videos). It played back ok when in the service menu, but out of that the game would just flicker between the amiga overlaid screen and the first frames of the video.

I did mention back then that the likelihood of the singe dvd version matching the laserdisc version would be unlikely though and likely wouldn't work out.

[emufan]

Originally Posted by Retro1234

Unfortunately we dont know the original order of the video.

we can compare it with the italian version. i could imagine, they were choosing
the filenames on purpose. maybe they are in alphabetic correct order - think positive

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

There is a file which list the file order and what frame they start on. Not home right now to check what it is.

cool

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

but was never able to get winuae to play the video properly

ffmpeg has some start/end frame options ( -ss / -t ) , with a proper gui that would be more fun,
but noone said it will be easy

[DamienD]

Contents of "maddog.zip" extracted / re-RAR'd into 300MB parts and then uploaded to SendSpace:

maddog.part1.rar   https://www.sendspace.com/file/y3jzqv
maddog.part2.rar   https://www.sendspace.com/file/lis5wb
maddog.part3.rar   https://www.sendspace.com/file/m9k9dx
maddog.part4.rar   https://www.sendspace.com/file/lg65rt

[emufan]

in terms of filesize, SendSpace is better than zippy - good d/l speed too

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by emufan

in terms of filesize, SendSpace is better than zippy - good d/l speed too

[emufan]

i followed the ffmpeg concatenate website.
- create the filelist for m2v and ogg files - just the alphabetic order.
- feed the lists into ffmpeg, producing video.m2v and audio.ogg
- next merge video and audio.
- the audio is broken here - only 50% sound, then silence. got some error messages about some problems
while encoding the final movie.
- but nevertheless the avi i made, does play with the game - that means, it swicthes
to different scenes, when doing some interactions.
cannot say if the timing is right, but at least this method can work.

#1) btw. if a file is not accepted as laserdisk video ( blue ) - then switch to video file, play it a bit,
then again to laser disk video - works here this way - but dont call it a hack :P

[earok]

I have to say, it's unlikely that non-LaserDisc rips are going to be useful, asides from needing to have all of the same footage in the same order at the same lengths and offsets as the original, the LaserDisc editions have footage that only makes sense in that context (attract mode sequences, individual frames for credits, configuration, tv calibration etc).

But I'd love to be proven wrong

[emufan]

if noone gives it a try, we will never know. so anyone should do something.

[Mad-Matt]

frame_maddog_cdrom.txt is the file that has the file order and frame starting points.

I have uploaded my mpg file to my google drive if anyone wants to try it. I have removed some blank video towards the end to try and make the menus match up to the correct frame point in the video. I will remove at some point as it does take up some space.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2...lpSdEhhWTNLNEU

[DamienD]

Nice work indeed Mad-Matt

...so this means the file was useful; should I upload the rest then?