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[Cowcat]

Hyperion Q2 GUI = NO-NO-NO. I told you about that (here or in other thread).

You need ref_soft_dll for starting the game if you have no config (from scratch). But after game is started and demo is running you change the driver in the menu settings to ref_glnorlu.

And is possible you need some stack for Sonnet library before starting (I think it was needed for "my" Blitzquake).

[trixster]

I have stack of like 2000000 in my executable.

@spudje all other parameters are set in the menus or via console commands in game.

[spudje]

Menus as in in game menus, via options?

[Cowcat]

Menus as in in game menus, via options?

Yep.

[spudje]

So the issue is nailed down back to Q2

So when I run the Hyperion version + update I can select a video mode in the GUI and I at least get the ID logo animation and then get the PPC exception.

When I get rid of all Hyperion stuff, the video signal simply cuts out when starting Quake2, see the snoopdos log in http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=5021

I have tried with and without DMA memory in the voodoo monitor tooltype.
I am using the P96 ENVARCs as described here https://github.com/Sakura-IT/SonnetA...ki/Good-Config
I have following tooltypes in the monitor - see attachment

Do I need any other ENVARCs for
- Warp3D
- PowerPC
- Prometheus

At least I also tried with following PowerPC ENVARCs:

Gfxaddr = $42000000 (What prmscan shows as first voodoo memory address) or $200000 (the number that shows up in many forum posts)
Force = 1
Terminator = 0 or 2

All no difference.

Mmm, when creating them manually or with Setenv envarc: command they only end up in ENVARC: and are not copied to ENV on (re)boot: like the rest of the ENVARCs??? Not that it matters, when copying PowerPC ENVARCs manually to ENV: my issue still isn't resolved.

[Hedeon]

Underclocking the voodoo I see?

Anyway, if you haven't installed AHI still, then you should as it is mandatory for the PCI PPC cards for sound (as per docs).

The ENVARC should not matter. The system (like you) picks it from the PCI config. However, the real gfx memory is at $40000000 (or PCI $00000000). $42000000 (or PCI $2000000) contains the 2d/3d registers of the voodoo (in your case).

Some ENV handlers only copy the stuff to ENV from ENVARC when used...so that gives you a sign too (as in, it is not being used).

[spudje]

Am I underclocking? I wasn't aware. Should I remove the memoryclock line from the tooltypes? --> Did that, no difference.

AHI 4.18 is already installed. Unit0 on dma paula.

So I guess I'm slowly running out of options. It might still be a wrongly configured MMU.

BTW, is there a different way of installing the whole baseq2 dir without using the hyperion installer? If yes, how?

[spudje]

A more detailed snoopdog dump.

 Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                                                  Options Res.
 ----- ------------       ------     -----------                                                  ------- ----
 1     WBL                ChangeDir  System:System                                                            
 2     WBL                Load       SYS:System/CLI                                                       OK  
 3     WBL                Lock       SYS:System/CLI                                               Read    OK  
 4     WBL                ChangeDir  SYS:                                                                     
 5     WBL                ChangeDir  System:System                                                            
 6     WBL                Lock       System:System/CLI.info                                       Read    Fail
 7     WBL                Open       System:System/CLI.info                                       Read    Fail
 8     WBL                ChangeDir  SYS:                                                                     
 9     SYS:System/CLI     OpenLib    icon.library                                                 Ver 37  OK  
 10    SYS:System/CLI     ChangeDir  System:System                                                            
 11    SYS:System/CLI     Lock       System:System/Shell.info                                     Read    OK  
 12    SYS:System/CLI     Open       System:System/Shell.info                                     Read    OK  
 13    SYS:System/CLI     ToolType   STACK                                                                OK  
 14    SYS:System/CLI     ToolType   WINDOW                                                               OK  
 15    SYS:System/CLI     ToolType   FROM                                                                 OK  
 16    SYS:System/CLI     Lock       SYS:                                                         Read    OK  
 17    SYS:System/CLI     ChangeDir  System:                                                                  
 18    SYS:System/CLI     Open       S:Shell-Startup                                              Read    OK  
/19    SYS:System/CLI     System     <NULL>                                                               ----
 20    « ConClip »        OpenLib    workbench.library                                            Ver 45  OK  
 21    « ConClip »        OpenLib    workbench.library                                            Ver 45  OK  
\19    SYS:System/CLI     System     <NULL>                                                               0   
 22    SYS:System/CLI     ChangeDir  SYS:                                                                     
 23    [1] assign         OpenLib    utility.library                                              Ver 37  OK  
 24    [1] assign         Lock       libs:powerpc                                                 Read    OK  
 25    [1] assign         FindTask   << AssignWedge >>                                                    OK  
/26    [1] InitPPC        OpenLib    powerpc.library                                              Ver 0       
 27    ramlib             Load       LIBS:powerpc.library                                                 OK  
 28    ramlib             OpenLib    utility.library                                              Ver 0   OK  
 29    ramlib             OpenLib    expansion.library                                            Ver 37  OK  
 30    ramlib             OpenLib    prometheus.library                                           Ver 4   OK  
 31    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/EnEDOMem                                              Global  Fail
 32    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/Debug                                                 Global  Fail
 33    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/EnAlignExc                                            Global  Fail
 34    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/DisL2Cache                                            Global  Fail
 35    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/DisL2Flush                                            Global  Fail
 36    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/EnPageSetup                                           Global  Fail
 37    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/EnDAccessExc                                          Global  Fail
 38    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/SetCMemDiv                                            Global  Fail
 39    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/DisHunkPatch                                          Global  Fail
 40    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/SetCPUComm                                            Global  Fail
 41    ramlib             GetVar     sonnet/EnStackPatch                                          Global  Fail
/42    ramlib             OpenLib    ppc.library                                                  Ver 46      
 43    ramlib             Open       LIBS:ppc.library                                             Read    Fail
 44    ramlib             Load       LIBS:ppc.library                                                     Fail
 45    ramlib             Open       System:ppc.library                                           Read    Fail
\42    ramlib             OpenLib    ppc.library                                                  Ver 46  Fail
 46    ramlib             Load       System:ppc.library                                                   Fail
\26    [1] InitPPC        OpenLib    powerpc.library                                              Ver 0   OK  
 47    [1] quake2         OpenLib    powerpc.library                                              Ver 14  OK  
 48    [1] quake2         Open       *                                                            Write   OK  
 49    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak                            Read    OK  
 50    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak1.pak                            Read    Fail
 51    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak2.pak                            Read    Fail
 52    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak3.pak                            Read    Fail
 53    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak4.pak                            Read    Fail
 54    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak5.pak                            Read    Fail
 55    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak6.pak                            Read    Fail
 56    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak7.pak                            Read    Fail
 57    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak8.pak                            Read    Fail
 58    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak9.pak                            Read    Fail
 59    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak                            Read    OK  
 60    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/config.cfg                          Read    Fail
 61    [1] quake2         OpenLib    intuition.library                                            Ver 0   OK  
 62    [1] quake2         OpenLib    graphics.library                                             Ver 0   OK  
/63    [1] quake2         OpenLib    bsdsocket.library                                            Ver 0       
 64    ramlib             Open       LIBS:bsdsocket.library                                       Read    Fail
 65    ramlib             Load       LIBS:bsdsocket.library                                               Fail
 66    ramlib             Open       Work:Games/Quake2/bsdsocket.library                          Read    Fail
 67    ramlib             Load       Work:Games/Quake2/bsdsocket.library                                  Fail
\63    [1] quake2         OpenLib    bsdsocket.library                                            Ver 0   Fail
 68    [1] quake2         OpenLib    keymap.library                                               Ver 0   OK  
 69    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/ref_soft.dll                               Read    OK  
 70    [1] quake2         FindPort   ref_soft.dll                                                         Fail
 71    [1] quake2         Open       CON:0/0/800/600/DLL_OUTPUT/AUTO/CLOSE/WAIT                   Write   OK  
 72    [1] quake2         System     ref_soft.dll ref_soft.dll                                            0   
 73    [1] quake2         FindPort   ref_soft.dll                                                         Fail
 74    [1] quake2         FindPort   ref_soft.dll                                                         Fail
 75    [3] ref_soft.dll   OpenLib    powerpc.library                                              Ver 14  OK  
 76    [3] ref_soft.dll   Open       *                                                            Write   OK  
 77    [1] quake2         FindPort   ref_soft.dll                                                         OK  
 78    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak                            Read    OK  
 79    [1] quake2         Open       Work:Games/Quake2/baseq2/pak0.pak                            Read    OK  
 80    [1] quake2         OpenLib    cybergraphics.library                                        Ver 0   OK  
 81    [1] quake2         OpenLib    intuition.library                                            Ver 0   OK  
 82    [1] quake2         OpenLib    graphics.library                                             Ver 0   OK

I assume this is the screen it tries to open??? Although I was running in a 640x480 PC screen.
71 [1] quake2 Open CON:0/0/800/600/DLL_OUTPUT/AUTO/CLOSE/WAIT Write OK

Is this the issue, or not as in line 77 it eventually opens fine??
73 [1] quake2 FindPort ref_soft.dll Fail
74 [1] quake2 FindPort ref_soft.dll Fail

[Cowcat]

quake2 FindPort ref_soft.dll Fail

mmm.....I run it from MOS so Snoop says OpenLib.
Findport should be related to the way the dll opens because it does that.

But anyways sometimes the system asks for libraries and fail few times till it's ok to open.

Check this default "config.cfg" just in case: It uses ahi, ref_noglru and screen in windowmode.

// generated by quake, do not modify
bind TAB "inven"
bind ENTER "invuse"
bind ESCAPE "togglemenu"
bind SPACE "+moveup"
bind ' "invdrop"
bind + "sizeup"
bind , "+moveleft"
bind - "sizedown"
bind . "+moveright"
bind / "weapnext"
bind 0 "use BFG10K"
bind 1 "use Blaster"
bind 2 "use Shotgun"
bind 3 "use Super Shotgun"
bind 4 "use Machinegun"
bind 5 "use Chaingun"
bind 6 "use Grenade Launcher"
bind 7 "use Rocket Launcher"
bind 8 "use HyperBlaster"
bind 9 "use Railgun"
bind = "sizeup"
bind [ "invprev"
bind \ "+mlook"
bind ] "invnext"
bind ` "toggleconsole"
bind a "+lookup"
bind b "use rebreather"
bind c "+movedown"
bind e "use environment suit"
bind g "use grenades"
bind h "wave 0"
bind i "use invulnerability"
bind j "wave 1"
bind k "wave 2"
bind l "wave 3"
bind p "use power shield"
bind q "use quad damage"
bind s "use silencer"
bind t "messagemode"
bind u "wave 4"
bind x "score"
bind z "+lookdown"
bind ~ "toggleconsole"
bind BACKSPACE "invdrop"
bind UPARROW "+forward"
bind DOWNARROW "+back"
bind LEFTARROW "+left"
bind RIGHTARROW "+right"
bind ALT "+strafe"
bind CTRL "+attack"
bind SHIFT "+speed"
bind F1 "cmd help"
bind F2 "menu_savegame"
bind F3 "menu_loadgame"
bind F4 "menu_keys"
bind F5 "menu_startserver"
bind F6 "echo Quick Saving...; wait; save quick"
bind F9 "echo Quick Loading...; wait; load quick"
bind F10 "menu_quit"
bind F12 "screenshot"
bind INS "+klook"
bind DEL "+lookdown"
bind PGDN "+lookup"
bind END "centerview"
bind MOUSE1 "+attack"
bind MOUSE2 "+strafe"
bind MOUSE3 "+forward"
bind PAUSE "pause"
set gl_subdivide_size "64"
set gl_mintriarea "0.5"
set gl_skipparticles "0"
set gl_point_size "2.25"
set gl_drawparticles "1"
set gl_lockmode "MANUAL"
set gl_mtexbuffersize "1024"
set gl_guardband "0"
set gl_closeworkbench "0"
set gl_buffers "3"
set gl_forcedepth "15"
set gl_texturecache "4000000"
set gl_fogblue "0.4"
set gl_foggreen "0.5"
set gl_fogred "0.6"
set gl_fogend "800.0"
set gl_fogstart "50.0"
set gl_fog "0"
set gl_3dlabs_broken "1"
set gl_swapinterval "1"
set gl_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
set gl_ext_pointparameters "1"
set gl_ext_multitexture "0"
set gl_ext_swapinterval "1"
set gl_vertex_arrays "1"
set gl_texturesolidmode "default"
set gl_texturealphamode "default"
set gl_texturemode "GL_LINEAR"
set gl_flashblend "0"
set gl_shadows "0"
set gl_modulate "1"
set gl_particle_att_c "0.01"
set gl_particle_att_b "0.0"
set gl_particle_att_a "0.01"
set gl_particle_size "40"
set gl_particle_max_size "40"
set gl_particle_min_size "2"
set gl_polycull "1"
set r_vertexlighting "0"
set gl_affinemodels "0"
set gl_smoothmodels "1"
set gl_keeptjunctions "1"
set gl_finish "0"
set gl_ext_palettedtexture "1"
set gl_mode "3"
set gl_driver "opengl32"
set ahi_bits "16"
set ahi_channels "2"
set ahi_speed "22"
set r_lerpmodels "1"
set nostdout "1"
set g_select_empty "0"
set joy_side_reverse "0"
set joy_forward_reverse "0"
set joy_up_reverse "0"
set in_joystick "0"
set new_mouse "0"
set in_mouse "1"
set joy_psx "0"
set joy_pc "0"
set cl_item_bob "0"
set horplus "0"
set cl_vwep "1"
set gender_auto "1"
set gender "male"
set fov "90"
set msg "1"
set rate "25000"
set freelook "0"
set cl_3dcam_alpha "0"
set cl_3dcam_dist "50"
set cl_3dcam_angle "30"
set cl_3dcam "0"
set cl_drawfps "0"
set adr8 ""
set adr7 ""
set adr6 ""
set adr5 ""
set adr4 ""
set adr3 ""
set adr2 ""
set adr1 ""
set adr0 ""
set cd_nocd "0"
set s_lib "ahi"
set s_primary "0"
set s_mixahead "0.2"
set s_khz "11"
set s_volume "0.7"
set sw_pubscreen ""
set sw_mode "0"
set sw_custom_particles "0"
set sw_stipplealpha "0"
set sw_allow_modex "1"
set vid_gamma "1"
set vid_ypos "60"
set vid_xpos "90"
set vid_ref "glnolru"
set sv_reconnect_limit "3"
set allow_download_maps "1"
set allow_download_sounds "1"
set allow_download_models "1"
set allow_download_players "0"
set allow_download "1"
set hostname "noname"
set skin "male/grunt"
set name "Player"
set lookstrafe "0"
set lookspring "1"
set m_pitch "0.022"
set hand "0"
set cl_run "0"
set crosshair "1"
set sensitivity "3"
set win_noalttab "0"
set vid_fullscreen "0"
set viewsize "100"

71 [1] quake2 Open CON:0/0/800/600/DLL_OUTPUT/AUTO/CLOSE/WAIT Write OK

This ? Game by default starts in a 320x240 fullscreen. Maybe drivers are looking for screens that you don't have configured?
Ops that's dll code: Is ok here. Should be a bunch for each dll: ref_gl, ahi and gameppc in this order.

But If you still have problems with that I might go to simpler programs: Like the warp3d demos (gears).

[spudje]

Well, I have deleted the config.cfg & session.cfg as you instructed as they were generated by that GUI tool. No new ones are created. I'll copy this one.

All other Warp3DPPC stuff works (Gears, Quake 1, Wipeout, Payback)

[Hedeon]

Payback let's the PPC bang the audio hardware directly. Set the sound to 0 to see how fast it can be if it had AHI (minus a few frames).

[spudje]

YESSS SUCCESS!!!!!

So it was a combination of things:
the vidplay command opened a full screen that ended up in no signal.
Removing vidplay from the game dir and adding stack did the thing.

@cowcat's windowed config did the trick, I was less blind since this gave away that vidplay still opened in full screen while the game was configured in window mode.

Then going from software to glnolru and next step to full screen all went successfully.
Is there a reason why I should prefer the gl over the glnolru version?

Thanks all for your help and patience with me

[Hedeon]

vidplay should work though. It shows the ID logo being stamped in.

And it doesn't use W3D.

[trixster]

Vidplay works ok here

[spudje]

Weird thing is, the ID logo video was the only thing that did work when I created a config with the Hyperion GUI where I selected a screenmode.... So maybe there's still some config setting that can fix this? However, totally not a big concern to me.

Or maybe it's due to the newest, 3.2.4 iirc, P96 I'm using?

[Cowcat]

@spudje

Finally !

The ref_gl.dll fails to work properly for warpos. Put it that way.

Hyperion version uses a separate dll for video playing that doesn't use the render DLLs of the game (being soft or gl). As a consequence, a different screenmode is opened (only soft render btw) and you end with 2 different scaled displays.

I recoded that years ago so all video uses the same render mode the game is on: The right way.

[spudje]

OK, so how can I make use of your vidplay, or have vidplay use the proper DLL files? Do I maybe still have some more Hyperion leftovers?

[Cowcat]

@spudje

You don't need anything more that I provided: Each render dll has what is needed and is basically how originally was intended and modern Q2 (as Yamagi) do.

And yep I took a lot of code from other versions and from time to time do an update. It needs at least one btw (and upgrade the official game mods...)

[grelbfarlk]

Spudje do a timedemo 1 and a demomap demo1.dm2 with your system specs and resolution please. I'm curious what Prometheus does here.

[spudje]

OK, I'll try that. I start those from the Q2 console, don't I? You want me to report FPS? How do I measure/display that?