coders wanted for shenandoah - Page 11

olandrobo · 07 May 2007, 12:10

Back in Sweden now...
A new upload of the missing enemie for level one to the zone.
filename: ufo2.bmp

derSammler · 07 May 2007, 12:26

Thanks, I'm keeping two copies of all files now. Promised!

Next graphics I need are the first three background objects for the second part of level 1. The first one is a big green ship that has the shape of a whale, the second one is some machine with a spiked mace in front (during the section with the reddish fog), and the third one which looks like a black hole to me (also during the reddish fog section).

olandrobo · 09 May 2007, 10:24

I have now uploaded the mine machine background object. The Black hole I couldn't find yet. The whale one I'm not too happy about anymore and would like to remove.

derSammler · 09 May 2007, 11:19

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Originally Posted by olandrobo

I have now uploaded the mine machine background object. The Black hole I couldn't find yet.

Great, so we even have more than one.

The one used in the Amiga preview is different, I've attached a screengrab (also of the black hole).

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Originally Posted by olandrobo

The whale one I'm not too happy about anymore and would like to remove.

Could you please upload it nevertheless? Just for the sake of completeness. Too bad you don't like it anymore, as I think it's rather nice. Makes me wonder if the whale-shaped enemies were meant to approach during that section (they are completely unused, along with some other enemies).

olandrobo · 09 May 2007, 11:38

Yeah, I knew you meant that one, but I don't like that angle.

It's the same object you got now but at different angles - that looks much better. To be honest, I don't know why I used the one that's there now in the demo.

Maybe if I make the 'whale' a bit smaller it will work better...

Which enemies do you refer to as being unused?

derSammler · 09 May 2007, 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by olandrobo

Which enemies do you refer to as being unused?

See attachment.

olandrobo · 09 May 2007, 13:55

Yes, that's because they were never animated... Some of them might be used at a later level though.

derSammler · 13 May 2007, 16:09

I'm currently finalizing the code for the background layer handling. Could you perhaps briefly explain how the background layers and foreground layers (if any) are set up in the different levels? Level one has 3 background layers and no foreground layers, what about the other levels?

olandrobo · 14 May 2007, 10:09

So I guess the blue background is one layer, the different background objects another and the starfield the third?
I don't think we have any foreground layers from what I can recall and I think that the other levels have the same setup as the first. We thought of having a parallax scroll on the rocky level but it would be to costly cpu wise to get that smooth enough with all the rest that has to move around as well.

derSammler · 14 May 2007, 10:50

Quote:

So I guess the blue background is one layer, the different background objects another and the starfield the third?

Almost.

Blue background = layer 0
Overlays like Binocity, domecity etc. = layer 1
Stardust #1 (slow) = layer 2
Stardust #2 (fast) = layer 3

These are four layers, but layer 0 and layer 1 are tied to each other (priority, speed) and make up one layer.

The rocky level is the 2nd from which we have that very small screenshot, isn't it? That was one of the reasons I asked for foreground layers, as that level seems to have one according to the screenshot. Parallax scrolling wouldn't be a problem, so it should be possible to make the rocky level as it was intended.

starlord · 14 May 2007, 19:47

Great then! The screenshot will truly be a part of the game!
Excellent work, you all!!!

derSammler · 14 May 2007, 22:19

Quote:

The screenshot will truly be a part of the game!

Of course it will.

The sooner olandrobo uploads the graphics for the level, the sooner I can begin setting it up.

olandrobo · 15 May 2007, 10:09

Oh, you need the graphics for that level allready. I'll have a look at it this weekend then.

starlord · 15 May 2007, 12:07

do you also intend to implement all the unanimated enemies you refered to, windows?

derSammler · 15 May 2007, 12:22

That's olandrobo's decision. Though I'd really like to implement every piece of graphics that has been done for the game.

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Originally Posted by olandrobo

Oh, you need the graphics for that level allready. I'll have a look at it this weekend then.

It's not that I need it already, but the more graphics I've got, the more work I can do simultaneously.

olandrobo · 16 May 2007, 10:51

Not every graphic will go into the game. Some is poor and some is unfinished. The demo should be looked upon as a sketch and not a blueprint. We'd most likely would have changed some parts of it if we'd finished it.

derSammler · 16 May 2007, 11:14

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The demo should be looked upon as a sketch and not a blueprint.

Obviously. The second part of level one feels a bit unpolished with a lot of gaps / too little action in some places. But I guess that's because some of the level's enemies weren't done and left out.

Are there also enemies in the demo that you don't want to have in the final game? Not that I spend hours and hours implementing them for nothing.

olandrobo · 16 May 2007, 13:42

Maybe the 'semla' object which the first big boss deploys, they look kinda foolish. Otherwise it's working out as intended. But as you say the level needs to be trimmed to get an even flow of the action.

derSammler · 17 May 2007, 17:11

Got the section with the reddish fog working.

The effect doesn't look exactly as in the Amiga preview (because I can't use the same technique), but it's close enough.

olandrobo · 17 May 2007, 23:55

Yeah, looks pretty good.

17 May 2007, 17:11	#219
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,667	Got the section with the reddish fog working. The effect doesn't look exactly as in the Amiga preview (because I can't use the same technique), but it's close enough. Last edited by derSammler; 30 August 2023 at 10:06.

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07 May 2007, 12:10	#201
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Back in Sweden now... A new upload of the missing enemie for level one to the zone. filename: ufo2.bmp

07 May 2007, 12:26	#202
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,667	Thanks, I'm keeping two copies of all files now. Promised! Next graphics I need are the first three background objects for the second part of level 1. The first one is a big green ship that has the shape of a whale, the second one is some machine with a spiked mace in front (during the section with the reddish fog), and the third one which looks like a black hole to me (also during the reddish fog section).

09 May 2007, 10:24	#203
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	I have now uploaded the mine machine background object. The Black hole I couldn't find yet. The whale one I'm not too happy about anymore and would like to remove.

09 May 2007, 11:38	#205
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Yeah, I knew you meant that one, but I don't like that angle. It's the same object you got now but at different angles - that looks much better. To be honest, I don't know why I used the one that's there now in the demo. Maybe if I make the 'whale' a bit smaller it will work better... Which enemies do you refer to as being unused?

09 May 2007, 13:55	#207
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Yes, that's because they were never animated... Some of them might be used at a later level though.

13 May 2007, 16:09	#208
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,667	I'm currently finalizing the code for the background layer handling. Could you perhaps briefly explain how the background layers and foreground layers (if any) are set up in the different levels? Level one has 3 background layers and no foreground layers, what about the other levels?

14 May 2007, 10:09	#209
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	So I guess the blue background is one layer, the different background objects another and the starfield the third? I don't think we have any foreground layers from what I can recall and I think that the other levels have the same setup as the first. We thought of having a parallax scroll on the rocky level but it would be to costly cpu wise to get that smooth enough with all the rest that has to move around as well.

14 May 2007, 19:47	#211
starlord Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: france Posts: 209	Great then! The screenshot will truly be a part of the game! Excellent work, you all!!!

15 May 2007, 10:09	#213
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Oh, you need the graphics for that level allready. I'll have a look at it this weekend then.

15 May 2007, 12:07	#214
starlord Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: france Posts: 209	do you also intend to implement all the unanimated enemies you refered to, windows?

16 May 2007, 10:51	#216
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Not every graphic will go into the game. Some is poor and some is unfinished. The demo should be looked upon as a sketch and not a blueprint. We'd most likely would have changed some parts of it if we'd finished it.

16 May 2007, 13:42	#218
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Maybe the 'semla' object which the first big boss deploys, they look kinda foolish. Otherwise it's working out as intended. But as you say the level needs to be trimmed to get an even flow of the action.

17 May 2007, 23:55	#220
olandrobo artist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stockholm/sweden Posts: 130	Yeah, looks pretty good.

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