Which are the most accurate Amiga arcade conversions? - Page 11

turrican3 · 22 October 2013, 03:08

i don't if it was posted before but :
dragon has even a multi scrolling in the second stage that the arcade version doesn't have !

dlfrsilver · 22 October 2013, 06:08

dragon ninja ?

lilalurl · 22 October 2013, 06:54

Oh nice, a new game. "It's ... Guess the Partial Title"

Saint Dragon?

Rob 1 · 22 October 2013, 10:42

My 10p's worth

I thought the Amiga version of Toki was good and looked similar but lacked the flowing game play of the original.

Final fight the Amiga version was ok but did slow a lot and also missed Haggar's special move roar (or am I remembering that incorrectly?)

wanderer · 22 October 2013, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilalurl

Oh nice, a new game. "It's ... Guess the Partial Title"

Saint Dragon?

Has to be Dragon Breed. Love it!

Shatterhand · 24 November 2015, 19:18

Dragon Breed is a *very* good port, I had never heard about it up until recently... I was surprised it was a pretty good job. Shame it has the old "SFX or Music" shit so common on Amiga games.

Someone mentioned UN Squadron along the thread... UN Squadron is really bad, just because the framerate is awful! I could live with the weird colors and the small play area if the game ran at a decent frame rate. It would be kinda good even. But the way it is, the game is borderline unplayable.

Retro-Nerd · 24 November 2015, 20:12

Only the slightly enhanced SNES port of UN Squadron is good.

dlfrsilver · 24 November 2015, 20:43

dragon breed and un squadron are using modified ST game engines.

Shatterhand · 24 November 2015, 21:00

Yet Dragon Breed it's pretty good.

It's from the same team who ported R-Type 2 and Crackdown.

Crackdown has a very questionable pallete choice, but it's a very solid port too....

dlfrsilver · 24 November 2015, 21:28

those games are ST ports.

Shatterhand · 24 November 2015, 21:34

R-Type 2 doesn't have the parallax scroll on ST.

Even being ST ports (And the pallete choice really makes this clear), they are still good ports.

R-Type 2 is plagued with slowdown... but even Super R-Type on SNES is also plagued with slowdown. Home versions of R-Type and Slowdown almost always come together

EDIT:
Just checked Dragon Breed ST on Youtube, it's indeed identical to the Amiga game, but seems to be slower. Music also is not as good (And it also has no SFX, just music).

Fiery Phoenix · 24 November 2015, 21:53

Midnight Resistance (even as an ST port) is pretty close

That, Marble Madness and Buggy Boy play better than the arcade originals (imho)

ReadOnlyCat · 24 November 2015, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiery Phoenix

Midnight Resistance (even as an ST port) is pretty close

That, Marble Madness and Buggy Boy play better than the arcade originals (imho)

Hum... We clearly did not play the same version of Buggy Boy, the Amiga version is far from the smooth frame rate of the Arcade.
As for Midnight Resistance, I played it a lot in the Arcade and the Amiga version is barely passable. It is not bad but it is far from what it should have been.

Mrs Beanbag · 24 November 2015, 23:24

why is Midnight Resistance so dark? i had to turn the brightness right up on my TV to be able to play it. ok i know it is called "Midnight" Resistance but clearly some levels were set in broad daylight, it's like they converted 3 bit colour values to 4 bit colour values without any adjustment

ReadOnlyCat · 25 November 2015, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

why is Midnight Resistance so dark? i had to turn the brightness right up on my TV to be able to play it. ok i know it is called "Midnight" Resistance but clearly some levels were set in broad daylight, it's like they converted 3 bit colour values to 4 bit colour values without any adjustment

Holy kitty! You are right!

Look at YouTube videos of the ST and MegaDrive versions and they are perfectly normal. I cannot believe they forgot to shift the color palettes when going from the ST to the Amiga but it really looks like they did.
Just incredible...

Retro-Nerd · 25 November 2015, 01:01

There are more games. APB i.e. Both games have color palette fixes via WHDLoad though.

Amiga1992 · 25 November 2015, 02:30

ST shovelware sometimes had this palette problem.

s2325 · 25 November 2015, 07:50

There was another thread only about these dark graphics.

Galahad/FLT · 25 November 2015, 15:01

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=Moran

saimon69 · 25 November 2015, 21:52

I want to enforce about the Elite port of Ghosts'n'Goblins because despite the music did sound a bit wrong, the attention to detail was close to manic levels: any hardcore G'n'G gamer know the tricks, and those most of the time work even on the Amiga port: shooting tombstones to have the wizard coming out and turn you in a frog, the hidden stones, shooting at the gate, the 'zombie tunnel' on level 3, the secret 10000 points bonuses, the hidden replacement armors... is all there!

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22 October 2013, 03:08	#201
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,914	i don't if it was posted before but : dragon has even a multi scrolling in the second stage that the arcade version doesn't have !

22 October 2013, 06:08	#202
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 47 Posts: 10,515	dragon ninja ?

22 October 2013, 06:54	#203
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Oh nice, a new game. "It's ... Guess the Partial Title" Saint Dragon?

22 October 2013, 10:42	#204
Rob 1 The Original Domainiac Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Stafford/UK Age: 47 Posts: 1,292	My 10p's worth I thought the Amiga version of Toki was good and looked similar but lacked the flowing game play of the original. Final fight the Amiga version was ok but did slow a lot and also missed Haggar's special move roar (or am I remembering that incorrectly?)

24 November 2015, 19:18	#206
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Dragon Breed is a very good port, I had never heard about it up until recently... I was surprised it was a pretty good job. Shame it has the old "SFX or Music" shit so common on Amiga games. Someone mentioned UN Squadron along the thread... UN Squadron is really bad, just because the framerate is awful! I could live with the weird colors and the small play area if the game ran at a decent frame rate. It would be kinda good even. But the way it is, the game is borderline unplayable.

24 November 2015, 20:12	#207
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,469	Only the slightly enhanced SNES port of UN Squadron is good.

24 November 2015, 20:43	#208
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 47 Posts: 10,515	dragon breed and un squadron are using modified ST game engines.

24 November 2015, 21:00	#209
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Yet Dragon Breed it's pretty good. It's from the same team who ported R-Type 2 and Crackdown. Crackdown has a very questionable pallete choice, but it's a very solid port too....

24 November 2015, 21:28	#210
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 47 Posts: 10,515	those games are ST ports.

24 November 2015, 21:34	#211
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	R-Type 2 doesn't have the parallax scroll on ST. Even being ST ports (And the pallete choice really makes this clear), they are still good ports. R-Type 2 is plagued with slowdown... but even Super R-Type on SNES is also plagued with slowdown. Home versions of R-Type and Slowdown almost always come together EDIT: Just checked Dragon Breed ST on Youtube, it's indeed identical to the Amiga game, but seems to be slower. Music also is not as good (And it also has no SFX, just music).

24 November 2015, 21:53	#212
Fiery Phoenix Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bury, Lancs Age: 47 Posts: 664	Midnight Resistance (even as an ST port) is pretty close That, Marble Madness and Buggy Boy play better than the arcade originals (imho)

24 November 2015, 23:24	#214
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	why is Midnight Resistance so dark? i had to turn the brightness right up on my TV to be able to play it. ok i know it is called "Midnight" Resistance but clearly some levels were set in broad daylight, it's like they converted 3 bit colour values to 4 bit colour values without any adjustment

25 November 2015, 01:01	#216
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,469	There are more games. APB i.e. Both games have color palette fixes via WHDLoad though.

25 November 2015, 02:30	#217
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	ST shovelware sometimes had this palette problem.

25 November 2015, 07:50	#218
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 44 Posts: 17,789	There was another thread only about these dark graphics.

25 November 2015, 15:01	#219
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,018	http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=Moran

25 November 2015, 21:52	#220
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,604	I want to enforce about the Elite port of Ghosts'n'Goblins because despite the music did sound a bit wrong, the attention to detail was close to manic levels: any hardcore G'n'G gamer know the tricks, and those most of the time work even on the Amiga port: shooting tombstones to have the wizard coming out and turn you in a frog, the hidden stones, shooting at the gate, the 'zombie tunnel' on level 3, the secret 10000 points bonuses, the hidden replacement armors... is all there!

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