Conversion Capers: Rygar - Page 104

sandruzzo · 28 July 2017, 09:22

Updated exe. Bug about rygars' anim when move object into temple should be gone, as when it die into hall.

Retro-Nerd · 28 July 2017, 13:38

Both bugs are gone as it seems. One tiny graphics issue. After you've left the summary room there is a flash for a split second.

When you start the game with only 1MB chipram the Rygar sprite is broken. I assume you will fix that later?

sandruzzo · 28 July 2017, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Both bugs are gone as it seems. One tiny graphics issue. After you've left the summary room there is a flash for a split second.

When you start the game with only 1MB chipram the Rygar sprite is broken. I assume you will fix that later?

About that bug, is well know, the others, rygar broken I don't know. Maybe ram issue. I'll try to release a smaller .exe. Few minutes it'll be there

Retro-Nerd · 28 July 2017, 15:30

Nope, still broken with 1MB Chipram.

sandruzzo · 28 July 2017, 16:10

Ok, I'll see what I can do..

sandruzzo · 30 July 2017, 10:13

Updated Rygar exe and less big .mod file. It should bite less memory. Working on that.

Retro-Nerd · 30 July 2017, 14:53

Confirmed. Works fine now with 1MB Chipram only. But the freezing bug before you enter the room seems still there. Happens randomly though. Sometimes in the first run, sometimes it takes 3-4.

sandruzzo · 30 July 2017, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Confirmed. Works fine now with 1MB Chipram only. But the freezing bug before you enter the room seems still there. Happens randomly though. Sometimes in the first run, sometimes it takes 3-4.

Ok, I'll check that out. I still have some kb to spare, and work on performance to have more on screen if we can!

Retro-Nerd · 30 July 2017, 15:04

Good progress in the last few month. It really starts to feel like a game.

sandruzzo · 30 July 2017, 15:07

You're kind, and thanks for all this testing! We're doing something never before on Amiga!

Retro-Nerd · 30 July 2017, 15:09

No problem. But it needs more testing on real hardware. Akira will surely test your latest versions too, if he finds some time.

DamienD · 30 July 2017, 19:35

Just tested this

a) cannot jump onto any platforms now.
b) when you jump into the tree Rygar goes crazy when moving left / right, same old bug as reported previously...
c) bug when you fall down the pit and restart is still present.
d) crashed for me when trying to enter the end of level temple.
e) number if lives at the bottom of the screen is a funny colour i.e. yellow / red as opposed to white / red.

sandruzzo · 30 July 2017, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Just tested this

a) cannot jump onto any platforms now.
b) when you jump into the tree Rygar goes crazy when moving left / right, same old bug as reported previously...
c) bug when you fall down the pit and restart is still present.
d) crashed for me when trying to enter the end of level temple.
e) number if lives at the bottom of the screen is a funny colour i.e. yellow / red as opposed to white / red.

Mate thanks. I'll tackle all of them as soon as possible. The last one is due to I've turned on plane 4 to gain some dma slot. We'll have to have it 8 colors not 16 as it is now

Retro-Nerd · 30 July 2017, 19:44

I don't think that any of these things are final, Damien. It's more like a tech Demo at this point.

sandruzzo · 30 July 2017, 19:59

We are here to get fun first, and too see if Amiga can do it. And it can! Games like rygar are not so easy to port, because they are complex

DamienD · 30 July 2017, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I don't think that any of these things are final, Damien. It's more like a tech Demo at this point.

I get that Retro; just thought I'd report on bugs because if no one does then they won't get fixed

Shatterhand · 30 July 2017, 23:43

Just tested latest version on my A600 with 2mb Chip Ram. Using a 6 button Mega-Drive pad, 2 buttons works perfectly with it.

Bugs B) and D) that DamienD got I only got when booting from a WARM boot (i.e, after a soft reset). When I turned the machine off and then on again from the power switch, those bugs were gone. I don't know how this affects the game, but I remembered Akira mentioning it so I tested it too.

In both ocasions, if I fall on the pit, after that my character is invisible whenever I jump.

And the game is suffering bad from slowdowns when the screen is cluttered. IMO the game was already looking great with 5 bitplanes instead of 6... if that's whats causing the slowdown, I rather have less color but 50hz all the time. But, of course, its your game and you do it as you please

Just listing stuff that I noticed. Other than that its looking great, I really hope you have the energy/help to code all levels/mechanics etc.

Soundwise the game is amazing, incredibly accurate comparing to the arcade game.

Mate, I believe you have help with the graphics and sound, and I am not really all that skilled on that areas. But any tests you may need with real hardware, if you want me to run some debug code, test suff and take notes with a debug version showing info on screen, whatever, just tell me. I can even remove my 1mb expansion to test the game with just 1mb if you want so. Whatever, just ask.

sandruzzo · 31 July 2017, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shatterhand

Just tested latest version on my A600 with 2mb Chip Ram. Using a 6 button Mega-Drive pad, 2 buttons works perfectly with it.

Bugs B) and D) that DamienD got I only got when booting from a WARM boot (i.e, after a soft reset). When I turned the machine off and then on again from the power switch, those bugs were gone. I don't know how this affects the game, but I remembered Akira mentioning it so I tested it too.

In both ocasions, if I fall on the pit, after that my character is invisible whenever I jump.

And the game is suffering bad from slowdowns when the screen is cluttered. IMO the game was already looking great with 5 bitplanes instead of 6... if that's whats causing the slowdown, I rather have less color but 50hz all the time. But, of course, its your game and you do it as you please

Just listing stuff that I noticed. Other than that its looking great, I really hope you have the energy/help to code all levels/mechanics etc.

Soundwise the game is amazing, incredibly accurate comparing to the arcade game.

Mate, I believe you have help with the graphics and sound, and I am not really all that skilled on that areas. But any tests you may need with real hardware, if you want me to run some debug code, test suff and take notes with a debug version showing info on screen, whatever, just tell me. I can even remove my 1mb expansion to test the game with just 1mb if you want so. Whatever, just ask.

Thanks Mate! We're trying to run it at 50hz 6 planes. But if we'll soffer too much slow down we'll get back to 5 planes!

Thanks again for your helps, and time!

Retro-Nerd · 31 July 2017, 23:50

Just tested the latest version on my A1200. Scrolls perfectly smooth in 50fps, only if you wait for more enemies on the screen the game slows down a bit. Runs even great with my MTEC 1230 turbocard and all slowdowns are gone then.

Also i can't reproduce the "freeze before entering the room" bug anymore. Could be an emulation problem.

Maybe you could consider two versions. A technically (slightly) cut down version for ECS Amigas and a better one for AGA machines.

sandruzzo · 01 August 2017, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Just tested the latest version on my A1200. Scrolls perfectly smooth in 50fps, only if you wait for more enemies on the screen the game slows down a bit. Runs even great with my MTEC 1230 turbocard and all slowdowns are gone then.

Also i can't reproduce the "freeze before entering the room" bug anymore. Could be an emulation problem.

Maybe you could consider two versions. A technically (slightly) cut down version for ECS Amigas and a better one for AGA machines.

Thanks mate. I did some tests, and it's the parallax layer that bite a lot of dma slots. I want to see if we reduce is we can run at 50hz on ECS with all that shit on screen

31 July 2017, 23:50	#2079
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	Just tested the latest version on my A1200. Scrolls perfectly smooth in 50fps, only if you wait for more enemies on the screen the game slows down a bit. Runs even great with my MTEC 1230 turbocard and all slowdowns are gone then. Also i can't reproduce the "freeze before entering the room" bug anymore. Could be an emulation problem. Maybe you could consider two versions. A technically (slightly) cut down version for ECS Amigas and a better one for AGA machines. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 01 August 2017 at 00:07.

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28 July 2017, 09:22	#2061
sandruzzo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Italy/Rome Posts: 2,344	Updated exe. Bug about rygars' anim when move object into temple should be gone, as when it die into hall.

28 July 2017, 13:38	#2062
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	Both bugs are gone as it seems. One tiny graphics issue. After you've left the summary room there is a flash for a split second. When you start the game with only 1MB chipram the Rygar sprite is broken. I assume you will fix that later?

28 July 2017, 15:30	#2064
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	Nope, still broken with 1MB Chipram.

28 July 2017, 16:10	#2065
sandruzzo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Italy/Rome Posts: 2,344	Ok, I'll see what I can do..

30 July 2017, 10:13	#2066
sandruzzo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Italy/Rome Posts: 2,344	Updated Rygar exe and less big .mod file. It should bite less memory. Working on that.

30 July 2017, 14:53	#2067
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	Confirmed. Works fine now with 1MB Chipram only. But the freezing bug before you enter the room seems still there. Happens randomly though. Sometimes in the first run, sometimes it takes 3-4.

30 July 2017, 15:04	#2069
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	Good progress in the last few month. It really starts to feel like a game.

30 July 2017, 15:07	#2070
sandruzzo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Italy/Rome Posts: 2,344	You're kind, and thanks for all this testing! We're doing something never before on Amiga!

30 July 2017, 15:09	#2071
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	No problem. But it needs more testing on real hardware. Akira will surely test your latest versions too, if he finds some time.

30 July 2017, 19:35	#2072
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Just tested this a) cannot jump onto any platforms now. b) when you jump into the tree Rygar goes crazy when moving left / right, same old bug as reported previously... c) bug when you fall down the pit and restart is still present. d) crashed for me when trying to enter the end of level temple. e) number if lives at the bottom of the screen is a funny colour i.e. yellow / red as opposed to white / red.

30 July 2017, 19:44	#2074
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,457	I don't think that any of these things are final, Damien. It's more like a tech Demo at this point.

30 July 2017, 19:59	#2075
sandruzzo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Italy/Rome Posts: 2,344	We are here to get fun first, and too see if Amiga can do it. And it can! Games like rygar are not so easy to port, because they are complex

30 July 2017, 23:43	#2077
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Just tested latest version on my A600 with 2mb Chip Ram. Using a 6 button Mega-Drive pad, 2 buttons works perfectly with it. Bugs B) and D) that DamienD got I only got when booting from a WARM boot (i.e, after a soft reset). When I turned the machine off and then on again from the power switch, those bugs were gone. I don't know how this affects the game, but I remembered Akira mentioning it so I tested it too. In both ocasions, if I fall on the pit, after that my character is invisible whenever I jump. And the game is suffering bad from slowdowns when the screen is cluttered. IMO the game was already looking great with 5 bitplanes instead of 6... if that's whats causing the slowdown, I rather have less color but 50hz all the time. But, of course, its your game and you do it as you please Just listing stuff that I noticed. Other than that its looking great, I really hope you have the energy/help to code all levels/mechanics etc. Soundwise the game is amazing, incredibly accurate comparing to the arcade game. Mate, I believe you have help with the graphics and sound, and I am not really all that skilled on that areas. But any tests you may need with real hardware, if you want me to run some debug code, test suff and take notes with a debug version showing info on screen, whatever, just tell me. I can even remove my 1mb expansion to test the game with just 1mb if you want so. Whatever, just ask.

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