Polish Game Dumps

[rygar]

Originally Posted by BarryB

This is also the main reason no real effort to presere Polish software exists as there is no real way to verify the disks are copies of the original disk or genuine ones written by the developers as they are written on Amiga drives, with duplicated disks it's a lot easier to check they are original duplicated/unmodified disks.

Yeah...that's a reason why i started dumping Polish disks becuse no one care...
I know it can't be fully veryfied but at least we can try preserve as good image as possible with protection intact.

[BarryB]

Just one example of how valid Amiga software can be lost forever because if it's not been 'duplicated professionally' then by some flawed logic it can't be preserved!!

[TCD]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Just one example of how valid Amiga software can be lost forever because if it's not been 'duplicated professionally' then by some flawed logic it can't be preserved!!

Indeed. Same goes for other preservation. Better to have something, even if it's not perfect than nothing at all. Kudos to rygar for his efforts to preserve those Polish titles

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by TCD

Indeed. Same goes for other preservation. Better to have something, even if it's not perfect than nothing at all. Kudos to rygar for his efforts to preserve those Polish titles

Indeed

And kudos to Abaddon too for taking the time to help preserve the copy protected disks as IPF

[Docent]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

The duplicator script is for Behind the Iron Gate, but does not contain the definition for the rotated sync at the end of the tracks on the Polish release, which I assume is a protection check.

I found a file called Save_Disk3.asm in the old sources, related to Behind the Iron Gate - it seems to be the source of master disk generator and saver. Maybe it contains the protector for polish version. Check out the attached file.

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by Docent

I found a file called Save_Disk3.asm in the old sources, related to Behind the Iron Gate - it seems to be the source of master disk generator and saver. Maybe it contains the protector for polish version. Check out the attached file.

I took a quick look and can see the disk load routine with the protection check is in there, but need to look a bit more to see if it shows how it is written. I did notice the syncs were all set to 4489 rather than 8951 in the first section of code.

Update: After a closer look it does have the 8951 for both the read and write, but not seeing anything on how it is creating the shifted sync. I am slowly working on this.

Update 2: I was able to create a working IPF of disk 2, but then I was sent another version, which has different offsets for the protection. The protection data is stored in the boot block of disk 2. Looks like there could be many different versions. Now I just need to figure out how to make the decoder more generic.

[rygar]

On HOL there's scan of protection codes for Super TaeKwonDo Master
https://amiga.abime.net/misc/2201-23...sc0.jpg?v=5111
The scan is very poor so i was trying to retype it manually. Result below but there're some gaps and many mistakes for sure.
Abaddon maybe you could export proper list directly from game?

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01	0788	1363	5889	9076	2668	5815	4726	2288	2257	7240	4275	0834	????	4498	9276	9398	4725	9697	4029	4682	9713	8620	9892	9067	1532	8172
02	9600	7872	4290	1929	3432	2763	9889	9029	3859	9548	4178	8581	????	1407	5774	2552	3328	6366	8364	3269	2530	7482	6055	9597	6443	7196
03	3363	5175	3019	0701	7957	9792	5878	2689	1991	4072	0271	4704	????	????	7420	2847	7282	4606	7871	7349	1046	6832	1991	9197	3152	0712
04	1850	0048	2883	3211	5187	1699	3947	1905	1444	8540	3724	9640	????	7284	9947	1882	8824	3025	7544	4543	4823	4854	1840	1173	6887	2122
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07	5202	4250	7040	9692	0651	6432	2569	3095	6682	6821	3877	8399	????	0492	9998	5318	5174	2878	5992	7294	0539	7437	2045	2425	6302	4188
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13	0364	2190	8077	2704	5206	2942	2847	0513	1715	3672	9087	9232	????	7149	4712	7309	3462	6608	3795	2000	9561	5660	6967	5431	2074	1516
14	3385	0640	8588	5681	9124	0153	9322	2928	2443	6126	3830	3743	????	4290	3068	9119	3538	3449	4698	0503	9785	5354	3158	4334	5087	8506
15	9795	0337	3109	9322	3574	4083	4911	5316	3034	2059	0471	5651	????	0135	0205	8417	5742	8759	4036	8496	9620	1494	1350	8178	4818	3936
16	1568	0499	6319	6850	5900	6995	7588	9721	7586	0946	4064	2418	????	9131	7303	9195	5817	4197	3257	4198	1175	6775	7129	7201	9063	4614
17	4424	5670	9835	8874	2798	2229	1198	2210	0801	5583	8487	6924	????	8697	7514	1217	0782	0265	1291	5015	5101	5245	6413	2055	4622	4737
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19	4699	4506	1073	4640	8537	5106	1046	4748	3634	3743	3107	3260	????	2179	0515	9416	4923	3026	6597	7969	2962	9425	2616	9786	1666	5852
20	4667	5024	8131	3686	3083	2638	7668	3142	8644	8263	6699	6411	????	0387	3415	4519	0549	7934	9292	4359	3009	1866	7662	3000	8868	3929
21	2277	9423	2156	8880	6346	9798	4878	3369	0957	9035	1582	4204	????	3631	7394	0429	9768	5058	3673	3042	6771	2492	7694	5316	5144	7066
22	9748	3090	4035	9489	6966	8100	7716	3209	2933	6339	2404	0546	????	2820	2028	1644	0765	3075	8112	0662	3638	3344	8598	2947	1828	0649
23	6982	4700	3889	1848	9311	2346	3491	0993	6868	9195	2388	1574	????	7197	6383	0754	1713	6481	2871	6527	2563	3216	7571	6626	8722	1775
24	9696	1034	4034	3486	1892	7884	2975	4914	5998	7808	8660	8995	????	8247	4650	9205	8017	7625	9445	7909	0208	3732	9421	9569	9567	9256
25	6554	2000	8010	7753	5267	9927	4729	3760	4252	0012	1489	8403	????	1777	1030	8783	3393	9688	1484	3124	2777	2790	5991	0844	0136	5541
26	5096	1389	0121	5692	0114	7857	8984	1949	0791	4332	4448	3454	????	7863	3028	8824	0792	9794	6067	4695	3565	6402	2159	5074	9782	0824
27	6860	5821	3341	7311	9464	5615	5113	0575	8448	6442	????	6455	????	9722	8074	8095	7307	0658	5334	2658	8664	2340	0406	7204	3759	2241
28	9400	0328	5260	7872	4634	5051	5011	3639	4393	6356	????	1078	????	6270	4045	8331	0924	0937	9585	4750	1712	????	8955	5387	6396	5525
29	5802	5654	5043	4246	5757	1075	0621	5673	0118	2164	6857	3595	????	1310	8790	5857	3679	6934	7187	5033	1653	????	8579	1321	2081	5935
30	6463	9209	6285	1370	3881	2619	0274	7553	1735	0657	9604	3270	????	3694	0271	7231	3374	3175	9184	6870	6625	3363	9648	8464	7712	3106
31	1485	9755	5459	6336	7203	7927	8234	5211	1803	6679	7145	3060	????	1454	4453	3987	7017	5769	4762	5150	7702	1178	5252	8542	4406	8562
32	1598	3625	6162	2944	4918	9639	4249	8615	2423	7695	1951	1744	????	6184	8116	2843	0583	7051	3214	4035	0740	7071	7140	4301	1623	3247
33	9795	7539	4888	8802	1845	4326	7088	0831	0417	6014	8977	1394	????	7133	9489	6214	0818	8214	9967	0615	8044	7006	5176	6224	2115	9342
34	5695	7602	6899	6494	6456	6636	1783	3386	2049	2440	????	1190	????	9218	6505	4829	1508	3916	2591	1466	5166	4994	2812	7824	6295	9642
35	0318	7936	3875	7268	0456	0349	0880	4695	7859	4396	????	4117	????	7264	1114	6676	5920	9815	6765	5261	8340	0066	4728	0959	5947	4110
36	1658	1894	6113	8916	7842	9630	0196	6672	6533	8665	8565	2604	????	8757	1742	0927	1545	0782	0299	6456	9524	8792	1661	3639	7925	4238
37	1893	9150	0561	1651	9032	8295	2501	1976	7325	3260	0027	0535	????	8120	1949	8180	3476	3059	9551	8712	5221	1968	6992	7789	2238	8420
38	5005	3220	6678	7006	5776	0391	4409	8254	0680	7266	0951	1721	????	7790	2820	4200	1232	5679	8900	3316	5469	5110	4183	7467	8274	4818
39	3983	0533	8615	2550	3456	1305	9030	4091	2646	7322	8487	1848	????	3079	9621	0325	5982	2841	3128	2523	1420	0118	8118	9723	5759	9741
40	2392	0499	6319	6850	5900	6995	7588	9721	7586	0946	4064	2418	????	9131	7303	9195	5817	4197	3257	4198	1175	5775	7129	7201	9063	4614
41	2244	3573	3210	3223	1516	6943	9748	4352	8326	5490	1095	0670	????	0623	4483	6088	1957	2732	1402	2924	1463	8344	1145	9823	7593	8157
42	1022	8480	3018	2847	4249	5921	8266	7485	8336	4939	9731	8639	????	5112	0872	4692	7770	6701	5441	9448	3580	1540	8399	7943	8285	3546
43	5111	3661	5423	3102	6410	1750	5387	5439	4442	0043	1955	3885	????	8169	7931	5648	2805	7187	4763	9036	1567	7067	5112	2221	9601	9674
44	2060	5821	3341	7311	9454	5615	5113	0575	8448	6442	3529	6455	????	9722	8074	8095	7307	0658	5334	2658	8654	2340	0406	7204	3759	2241
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h	i	j	k	l	m	n	o	p	q	r	s	t	u	v	w	x	y	z

[rygar]

Just got from my cotributor (huge thanks to uicr0Bee):
Pierwsze kroki (1992)(Alderan)
Dump in TheZone.
Note:
Tracka 00.1 in newest dump is unformatted but my contributor said that in previous dump track was OK and he was able to create ADF from it (file: Pierwsze kroki (Alderan) #20121101.adf). Unfortunately he don't have his first dump anymore

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by rygar

Just got from my cotributor (huge thanks to uicr0Bee):
Pierwsze kroki (1992)(Alderan)
Dump in TheZone.
Note:
Tracka 00.1 in newest dump is unformatted but my contributor said that in previous dump track was OK and he was able to create ADF from it (file: Pierwsze kroki (Alderan) #20121101.adf). Unfortunately he don't have his first dump anymore

The ADF shows track 0.1 as empty as does the RAW dump! There is also a protection track similar to Ortografia: Gra Slow on 31.0 as a CT RAW will load but the ADF sticks on track 31!!

Seeing as the disk is using some form of track loader there is no DOS file system so you can't file copy anything off the disk to see if anything is corrupt or if track 0.1 should have data!!

[rygar]

Originally Posted by BarryB

The ADF shows track 0.1 as empty as does the RAW dump! There is also a protection track similar to Ortografia: Gra Slow on 31.0 as a CT RAW will load but the ADF sticks on track 31!!

Seeing as the disk is using some form of track loader there is no DOS file system so you can't file copy anything off the disk to see if anything is corrupt or if track 0.1 should have data!!

So it's another one to add "to do list" for Abaddon

[BarryB]

Well we'll just have to wait, i'm sure other commitments are taking his time currently!

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Well we'll just have to wait, i'm sure other commitments are taking his time currently!

Unfortunately, Covid is kicking my ass at the moment. On the mend, but still feeling a bit rough.


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[rygar]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Unfortunately, Covid is kicking my ass at the moment. On the mend, but still feeling a bit rough.

Take care of yourself and rest. There's nothing more important than health.

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Unfortunately, Covid is kicking my ass at the moment. On the mend, but still feeling a bit rough.


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Wow, hope it's not kicking your ass too hard! Thanks for letting us know you're OK and on the mend, just take it easy and give yourself plenty of time to recover.

[rygar]

Another dump in TheZone (huge thanks to uicr0Bee):
Ortografia - Gra Slów -(Alderan)
This dump looks completly different than my previous dump. After converting to ADF with DTC only diference is one file called "hi" which could be some kind of "highscore" file.
I'm sure some experts will tell us more about it

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by rygar

Another dump in TheZone (huge thanks to uicr0Bee):
Ortografia - Gra Slów -(Alderan)
This dump looks completly different than my previous dump. After converting to ADF with DTC only diference is one file called "hi" which could be some kind of "highscore" file.
I'm sure some experts will tell us more about it

Same protection codes and protection track as your previous dump. Does not appear to have bad tracks, like the other copy. IPF in the zone.

[rygar]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Same protection codes and protection track as your previous dump. Does not appear to have bad tracks, like the other copy. IPF in the zone.

Thank you a lot for support. I hope other Alderan titles will have the same protection

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by rygar

Thank you a lot for support. I hope other Alderan titles will have the same protection

Same protection as Pierwsze kroki...IPF in the zone. This is not a game...not really sure why this would have been released as a commercial product

[dlfrsilver]

New game in IPF zone some days ago : Sorceror's Apprentice, thanks to Dr Bong.

[rygar]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Same protection as Pierwsze kroki...IPF in the zone. This is not a game...not really sure why this would have been released as a commercial product

You're right...this disk is easy amiga tutorial. I wonder how many copies they was able to sale