The bad cracks / 100% working games thread

[mai]

I have just performed a crc32 check(main-exe):
The mainexe of
Valhalla and the Lord of Infinity (1994)(Vulcan)(Disk 1 of 6)(Boot)[cr FLT][b]
is different to the others.

[mai]

...by the way, the game dont start with A500 config, probably because of any command in the startup-sequence.
If you want to play the game on a A500 you have to load the Workbench before.(A600 - the game starts without Workbench)
But this is no reason to add [b] flag.
I dont know, why there was added the [b] flag.

[mai]

@Galahad:
Do you remember, its cracked by you, have you made two different cracks of this game?
Maybe someone has changed the main-exe of
Valhalla and the Lord of Infinity (1994)(Vulcan)(Disk 1 of 6)(Boot)[cr FLT][b]
screenshot:

[andreas]

Originally Posted by mai

I dont know, why there was added the [b ] flag.

Simple: the disk image was added to TOSEC when WinUAE wasn't as advanced and near-perfect as it is now. So games which didn't work on e. g. 088R8 got the [b ] flag because they were deemed "bad". (with no good reason, of course)

But Toni has also fixed many old "bad" ([b ]-flagged) demos through the years, because it was often me who tested them on his A1000 and then found out they did work on the real thing, but did something weird in the code which lacked support in the emulator's engine.

ALWAYS take the [b ] with a sufficiently large grain of salt.

[mai]

Sly Spy - Secret Agent (1989)(Ocean)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][a2]

This time its a real "bad" disk, even more, its double bad.
1. - Cracktro dont start, causes freezing.
2. - There is a checksum error in 1 (Music) file, game searchs for the file again and again in a loop, i have checked(removed the cracktro before).

[mai]

Rotox (1990)(U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr Subway - SCX][t +4 Subway - SCX][b]

Whats wrong, someone knows?

[TCD]

Just checked it here (since it has a trainer ) and there seems to be no problem (well a really minor one). Completed level one by normal means and then skipped the levels to the end. Only thing I noticed is that on top of the hiscore table is some gfx junk.
Maybe the renamer didn't press space when the screen flashes and thought the game crashed. Oh and the game deserves the weird sfx on Amiga award

[mai]

Thank you for the efforts, TCD
Then there is probably no need for the [b] flag?

[andreas]

mai, I don't understand why this trivial information still hasn't reached the most remote corners of this world

The "b" may as well be a relict from times when emulation was not as advanced as is now. (for instance, Ilyad was a REAL problematic game and thus always had the *b* in ancient DAT releases)
The reason why they're still marked "b" ("bad") could be a very simple one: because no one has either ever retested this stuff in current emulator releases *OR* did not bother to report it to the team.

[TCD]

Well there are bad dumps or cracks which should be marked with the tag, but as you said there are many [b] games that I use and they work nicely Guess there should be really a retest run for those games Will try to list those I currently use here

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Just checked it here (since it has a trainer ) and there seems to be no problem (well a really minor one). Completed level one by normal means and then skipped the levels to the end. Only thing I noticed is that on top of the hiscore table is some gfx junk.
Maybe the renamer didn't press space when the screen flashes and thought the game crashed. Oh and the game deserves the weird sfx on Amiga award

Originally Posted by mai

Thank you for the efforts, TCD
Then there is probably no need for the [b] flag?

...then shouldn't it be labelled with one of the following; [b corrupt gfx] or [b gfx]?

[andreas]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Guess there should be really a retest run for those games

That's exactly what I wanted to outline in my previous post.

[zygzak]

Originally Posted by DamienD

PS. If you read some of the posts in the thread "Fixing Flashback version.. Ongoing.." you will see that there is no protection on this version what-so-ever. The .adf files were created straight from the .ipf files i.e. 1885 Flashback 4 English OCS EU Retail: Delphine Collection:

Thread is old but I want to add sth. You know what was the funniest thing regarding this version? I've bought it long time ago although I don't have it now, that publisher included manual with protection codes. Of course there wasn't any moment to enter any code from beginnig till end. And this legal version was the one which I could ever finish. In previous version didn't work savegames or I couldn't pass protection screen.
Ah, of course, PC and Amiga codes were diffrent.

[andreas]

zygzak, our German version was with codes and lo' and behold, you DID have to enter them: right at the beginning, that is!
I also remember someplace far later in the game where they demanded the code a SECOND time ...!

[zygzak]

Originally Posted by andreas

zygzak, our German version was with codes and lo' and behold, you DID have to enter them: right at the beginning, that is!
I also remember someplace far later in the game where they demanded the code a SECOND time ...!

Cracker was too fast. I don't know much about cracking so I dunno if cracker can omit some protection zones that appears later in the game or if he should find it without testing from beginning till the end.
Maybe Your German version wasn't from Delphine Collection.
Second password has appeared always on first use of teleport, and I think taxi cab whas the third and last.
I think Delphine could publish FB with full animation like PC version but they want to save one or two discs. Now it is ridicules.
Ah, BTW which crack of FB is the full working now?

[TCD]

Originally Posted by zygzak

I think Delphine could publish FB with full animation like PC version but they want to save one or two discs. Now it is ridicules.

The animations are there when you install the game to HD.

Originally Posted by zygzak

Ah, BTW which crack of FB is the full working now?

The version Damien mentions is a copy of the IPFs to ADFs, so it isn't cracked (yet the manual protection is gone). I can upload them if you want.

[zygzak]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

The animations are there when you install the game to HD.

The version Damien mentions is a copy of the IPFs to ADFs, so it isn't cracked (yet the manual protection is gone). I can upload them if you want.

Are you talking about full opening animation (on PC there are much more sequences than on Amiga version) or about some additional animations like dropping item or picking up item? If about second these additional animations can be turned on by some shortcut key on floppy version.
If about first I don't think so that opening animation is longer on HD version vs floppy version.

Next funny thing is that PC versions were bad cracked too (only first protection screen and denying protection codes after use taxi cab or teleport). But I saw properly cracked PC english version as well.

[dlfrsilver]

The sequences are disactived if the game is not run from a hard drive on amiga. CTRL+C activates them when played from disk if i remember well.

[zygzak]

Could You tell me which of Shadow Dancer version was well cracked?
Long time ago I couldn't get any good and working version cause they all hang on second level (after first boss) when yellow ninja appeared. The reset combination was only one thing that could be done.

[Galahad/FLT]

Copy protection on Shadow Dancer was pitiful, all versions were 100% if I remember correctly, you probably had a bad disk