AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3 - Page 12

NubeCheCorre · 14 February 2010, 13:41

i post it here or i send you by pm ? :-)

NubeCheCorre · 14 February 2010, 14:09

here is my s-s. At the moment there is no boing bag3 installed as i had to re-install my backup of amiga os 3.9 +bb2. I installed the bb2 without the romupdate (in this way it works..).

Quote:

; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.1 (25.11.00)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems

If Exists C:IDEFix
C:IDEFix
EndIf

C:SetPatch QUIET

C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ

Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE

Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS

OSDrivers/~(#?.info)

C:LoadMonDrvs

;IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
; IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
; DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
; EndIF

; C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
; Execute T:M
; C

elete >NIL: T:M
;EndIF

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:

Minuous · 16 February 2010, 01:32

I meant your BB3 startup-sequence, the one you are having trouble with.

NubeCheCorre · 16 February 2010, 19:58

Here is my s-s with BB3:

Code:

; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.1 (25.11.00)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems

SYS:C/LoadModule L:FastFileSystem L:RAM-Handler L:Shell-Seg DEVS:scsi.device LIBS:icon.library LIBS:workbench.library NOREBOOT REVERSE
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMMODULES fs,icon,ram,scsi.device,shell,workbench QUIET

If Exists C:IDEFix
  C:IDEFix
EndIf

;C:SetPatch QUIET

C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ

Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE

Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

C:LoadMonDrvs

;IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
;  IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
;    DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
;  EndIF

;  C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
;  Execute T:M
;  C:Delete >NIL: T:M
;EndIF

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
  Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:

FOL · 16 February 2010, 20:57

Hmmmm,

I didnt know you could do just;

fs,workbench etc etc.

I always put filesystem,workbench.library etc etc.

Minuous · 17 February 2010, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by NubeCheCorre

Here is my s-s with BB3:

Code:

SYS:C/LoadModule L:FastFileSystem L:RAM-Handler L:Shell-Seg DEVS:scsi.device LIBS:icon.library LIBS:workbench.library NOREBOOT REVERSE

And based on that you get
"Loading NOREBOOT VERBOSE failed
SYS:C/LoadModule failed returncode 10"?

How odd, NOREBOOT and VERBOSE should be interpreted by LoadModule as modifier switches rather than modules to be loaded. I'd say it was an obscure bug in LoadModule except that it works fine here with exactly the same parameters.

PeterK · 17 February 2010, 03:20

Update: Icon.library 46.4.154 with some fixes, some tweaks and some new bugs

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=255

Update: AfA_OS 4.7 is out now ! Thanks to Bernd Roesch.
http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/AfA_...fA_OS_V4_7.lha

gulliver · 17 February 2010, 07:21

Thanks again @PeterK

NubeCheCorre · 17 February 2010, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

And based on that you get
"Loading NOREBOOT VERBOSE failed
SYS:C/LoadModule failed returncode 10"?

How odd, NOREBOOT and VERBOSE should be interpreted by LoadModule as modifier switches rather than modules to be loaded. I'd say it was an obscure bug in LoadModule except that it works fine here with exactly the same parameters.

Now it tells me that fs is already resident and then it gives me SYS:C/LoadModule filed return code 10..

So, can i try with a different LoadModule posted some post above?

and installed the new icon.library could help? :-)

wawa · 17 February 2010, 11:37

@peter k: just in case, there is new beta of icon_lib.exe. not released yet but you might ask bernd just to keep your development up to date (if you havnt yet).

Minuous · 17 February 2010, 15:40

>So, can i try with a different LoadModule posted some post above?

Yes.

>installed the new icon.library could help? :-)

Doubt it.

PeterK · 17 February 2010, 23:08

@NubeCheCorre
LoadModule Libs:icon.library NOREBOOT ; works here with 40.11 and 40.12

....but of course, icon.library 46.4 won't cure your LoadModule problem.

My suggestion:

Instead of loading all modules at once, try loading them just one per line:

LoadModule L:FastFileSystem NOREBOOT
LoadModule L:RAM-Handler NOREBBOOT
LoadModule L:Shell-Seg NOREBOOT
... etc
to see which module really causes the trouble

... and you can also use LoadModule LIST later from a shell window...

@wawa
thanks for the info, but I can wait for the next AfA_OS release. No problem.

NubeCheCorre · 19 February 2010, 14:35

ok, i tried the other LoadModule and i think i did a step forward :-)

now at startup i can see this on my screen:

Quote:

Installed FastFileSystem
Installed Ram-Handler
Installed Shell-Seg
Installed scsi.device
Installed icon.library
Installed workbench.library
Can't open NOREBOOT
object not found
SYS:C/LoadModule failed return code 20

So, my question is: if i remove NOREBOOT VERBOSE could help?

Minuous · 19 February 2010, 16:24

Yes you might have to if it's not parsing its arguments correctly.

NubeCheCorre · 19 February 2010, 22:07

I tried to remove the string

Quote:

NOREBOOT REVERSE

, but my miggy load the modules and then reset into an infinite loop..

there is another command that i can add to my ss to workaround this problem?

gulliver · 19 February 2010, 23:52

Why did you try to use the REVERSE parameter?

Just use the NOREBOOT and see if it works.

PeterK · 20 February 2010, 00:12

LoadModule v1.1 has no option NOREBOOT, it has a different syntax, please read the f* docs!

You should use LoadModule v40.11 or v40.12.

Verify the version and the syntax from a shell window:
Version C:LoadModule FULL
LoadModule ?

gulliver · 20 February 2010, 01:07

Oops! Assumption is the mother of all fu**ups!

NubeCheCorre · 20 February 2010, 14:40

Quote:

LoadModule v1.1 has no option NOREBOOT, it has a different syntax, please read the f* docs!

Ehy sorry!, i didn't want to hurt you :-)

Quote:

You should use LoadModule v40.11 or v40.12.

Verify the version and the syntax from a shell window:
Version C:LoadModule FULL
LoadModule ?

it is the version 1.1 and using the argument ? i saw (as you told me) that it has no "NOREBOOT" argument but only "REBOOT/S".. i didn't find, or maybe i didn't understand, another argument to pass to LoadModule to avoid that my system start to reset itself into an infinite loop..

Using another LoadModule, as suggest to me some post above, i had the same problem as i reported before. It told me that fs v.45 is already resident..

Thinking about that i remind myself that together with amiga os 3.9, i also installed amiga os 4.0 and that the hard disk has been partitioned under amiga os 4.0, so guessing that could be the problem i commented the following line on my s-s hoping it could be usefull:

Quote:

SYS:C/LoadModule L:FastFileSystem NOREBOOT

but it was without help, as it reported me error on the following line and so on with all others modules..

i think that the problem is in the LoadModule btw, as with the old LoadModule it didn't reported me error about FastFileSytem..

I also edited my s-s to be more readable and clear, and now is:

Quote:

SYS:C/LoadModule L:FastFileSytem NOREBOOT
SYS:C/LoadModule L:Ram-Handler NOREBOOT
SYS:C/LoadModule L:Shell-Seg NOREBOOT
SYS:C/LoadModule DEVS:scsi.device NOREBOOT
SYS:C/LoadModule LIBS:icon.library NOREBOOT
SYS:C/LoadModule LIBS:workbench.library NOREBOOT

SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES fs QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES icon QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES ram QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES scsi.device QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES shell QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES workbench QUIET

PeterK · 21 February 2010, 01:24

Quote:

.... please read the f* docs!

Quote:

Ehy sorry!, i didn't want to hurt you :-)

No, you didn't.
Excuse me for the f* docs, nobody likes to read the docs. That's why everybody calls them f* docs. I also didn't want to offend you!

On the other hand, when I see your 6 lines with SetPatch now, I'm not really sure that you know what you are doing there?

There is no error in LoadModule v40.11 or v40.12. It works!
http://aminet.net/util/boot/LoadModule.lha

17 February 2010, 03:20	#227
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,385	Update: Icon.library 46.4.154 with some fixes, some tweaks and some new bugs http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=255 Update: AfA_OS 4.7 is out now ! Thanks to Bernd Roesch. http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/AfA_...fA_OS_V4_7.lha Last edited by PeterK; 23 April 2010 at 16:53.

17 February 2010, 23:08	#232
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,385	@NubeCheCorre LoadModule Libs:icon.library NOREBOOT ; works here with 40.11 and 40.12 ....but of course, icon.library 46.4 won't cure your LoadModule problem. My suggestion: Instead of loading all modules at once, try loading them just one per line: LoadModule L:FastFileSystem NOREBOOT LoadModule L:RAM-Handler NOREBBOOT LoadModule L:Shell-Seg NOREBOOT ... etc to see which module really causes the trouble ... and you can also use LoadModule LIST later from a shell window... @wawa thanks for the info, but I can wait for the next AfA_OS release. No problem. Last edited by PeterK; 17 February 2010 at 23:14.

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14 February 2010, 13:41	#221
NubeCheCorre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sanremo/Italy Age: 46 Posts: 70	i post it here or i send you by pm ? :-)

16 February 2010, 01:32	#223
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,673	I meant your BB3 startup-sequence, the one you are having trouble with.

16 February 2010, 20:57	#225
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 6,050	Hmmmm, I didnt know you could do just; fs,workbench etc etc. I always put filesystem,workbench.library etc etc.

17 February 2010, 07:21	#228
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Thanks again @PeterK

17 February 2010, 11:37	#230
wawa Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: berlin/germany Posts: 1,054	@peter k: just in case, there is new beta of icon_lib.exe. not released yet but you might ask bernd just to keep your development up to date (if you havnt yet).

17 February 2010, 15:40	#231
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,673	>So, can i try with a different LoadModule posted some post above? Yes. >installed the new icon.library could help? :-) Doubt it.

19 February 2010, 16:24	#234
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,673	Yes you might have to if it's not parsing its arguments correctly.

19 February 2010, 23:52	#236
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Why did you try to use the REVERSE parameter? Just use the NOREBOOT and see if it works.

20 February 2010, 00:12	#237
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,385	LoadModule v1.1 has no option NOREBOOT, it has a different syntax, please read the f* docs! You should use LoadModule v40.11 or v40.12. Verify the version and the syntax from a shell window: Version C:LoadModule FULL LoadModule ?

20 February 2010, 01:07	#238
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Oops! Assumption is the mother of all fu**ups!

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