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As a general rule: Copyright date isn't the same as release date. Even for games that aren't ports from the arcade (or other systems). You can (and most likely) will register a copyright before you release something. It can be the same year that you release the thing you got the copyright for, but it doesn't have to be.
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Mobygames has a listing:
URL: Offline Review Score: 71 of 100 Date: 1992-03 Source: Power Play |
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Couldn't find a single video of Joe and Mac running on even a low end 486, all emulated recordings which are probably not set to the correct CPU speed for a computer you would have in 1991-93.
The VGA graphics are nice, the Amiga graphics have the whiff of the PD too so not exactly up to OCS Shadow of the Beast levels of 32 colour Amiga graphics. If anything it highlights the lower standards on average as companies milked the Amiga for all it was worth. So yes it does make the Amiga look shit, doubt it scrolled at 50/60fps like on all the DOSbox etc YT videos clogging up the net. Nothing had smooth horizontal parallax scrolling on a 25mhz 486 back then lol |
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If we are talking about PC/Amiga Configuration, I would rather says that Amiga made PC game look like shit
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Even if we assume that PC Caveman Ninja ran at a decent speed on a 1992 PC (a 25Mhz 486 would have been more than most PC owners had at the time), we're still comparing a third-rate game (with some of the worst scrolling I've ever seen on a full price game which isn't an ST port) for a 1985 Amiga (albeit 1 Meg only) with what would be a first-rate 1992 PC game. Colours aside, I don't think this is a match for Amiga Turrican 2 (which scrolls, smoothly, in multiple directions), or Lionheart, or even Shadow of the Beast. Certainly no reason for 2D action game fans to envy PC owners at that time.
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Jazz jack rabbit was pretty much it that I can remember at the time, but little to no parallax. The die hard companies like Epic that targeted the PC eventually figured it out but it was a long journey.
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Toki, from a game coder's point of view, is similar to Joe and Mac and it does a much better job of making a nice looking game on an OCS chipset. You have to factor in how little effort was put into Amiga games 1993 onward which is really the first full year the PC developers can hope something between 33/40mhz 386DX or 25/33mhz 486SX is going to be a reasonable target platform to aim for to get 25 or 30 fps scrolling games made for home users in the EU.
Like it or lump it most of the big EU publishers by this time, like Ocean, had a foot in the console market too as well as possibly doing a VGA DOS conversion as well so less effort was put on OCS/ECS games and they rarely did a top notch AGA port, if at all, either. |
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I'd actually love to see a list of 2D action games for the PC between 1996-2006. The Playstation isn't known for 2D but I found 116 good 2D and 2.5D ones here https://sites.google.com/view/ps12dkeepers/home |
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Actual actual action games though... the list isn't going to be too big. Monolith's Captain Claw (or just "Claw") and Jazz Jack Rabbit 2 really ended the era. And ended it well, both games are belters. |
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The tone of a couple of the review comments for Claw suggests that PC magazines weren't that bothered about 2D platfomers at that time, regardless of quality. Maybe unless they came from a console, which a lot of the supposedly top ones here did? It's certainly not a game I remember getting any attention when I had a PC - I guess the PC scene was too mature for this type of game? It was first-person shooters and real-time strategy that got most of the buzz, plus established genres like adventures, sport and flight sims, maybe Oddworld at a push. Death Rally from 1996 had a cult following and was good fun though - remade a few years ago, but sadly without any linkup multiplayer.
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