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Old 21 July 2024, 13:42   #1
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Advanced Paula Features

Paula was mainly used to play samples and IIRC very occasionally wavetables.

However, it was capable of more than just sample playback.

It should also be capable of AM and FM synthesis.
There is an order you can set the channels to modulate each other with modulation being AM, FM or both.

The FM modulation is 14 bit but being read as a pair of bytes means it'll only run up to 14KHz.
The AM modulation is the same but it's only 6 bit out of the 16 bits read.

You can chain the 4 channels together so it should be able to do something like 4 operator FM synthesis (or AM or AM/FM).

Did any Amiga software ever do this?
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Old 21 July 2024, 13:51   #2
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FMsynth? (it's on aminet)....there was (at least) one other, Synthia...
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Old 21 July 2024, 13:55   #3
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This thread might be an interesting read (and watch): https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=114590
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Technically it would be Period Modulation, not Frequency Modulation. It's an important difference because the period value is inversely proportional. What people usually think of with FM, i.e. Yamaha OPL etc. is also a different mechanism again, Phase Modulation. This is a numerically (and computationally) better behaved approach.

The Period Modulation is not especially useful musically but you could presumably get some interesting clangs out of it
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there is good soft synths on the amiga, if you want the blip bloop blop feeling. Aegis, octamed, ahx, etc...
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Da Jormas demo Poing mucks about with the modulation:

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65872
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This thread might be an interesting read (and watch): https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=114590
Thanks for mentioning my video. The assembler code to turn on AM/FM is in there. Of late, I've noticed that TREG and Deluxe Sound might use this feature too!
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Da Jormas demo Poing mucks about with the modulation:

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65872
So someone used it, interesting. Thanks.
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Thanks for mentioning my video. The assembler code to turn on AM/FM is in there. Of late, I've noticed that TREG and Deluxe Sound might use this feature too!
Didn't realise you'd covered that in your video.
So, it does appear to have been used, but mostly as a ringmod like effect as far as I can see.

I'm wondering has it ever been used for synthesis, as in FM synthesis?
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Didn't realise you'd covered that in your video.
So, it does appear to have been used, but mostly as a ringmod like effect as far as I can see.

I'm wondering has it ever been used for synthesis, as in FM synthesis?
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As all the various FM softsynths just seem to render samples, it doesn’t appear that this has ever really been used for synthesis. I find the “FM” very unpredictable, even with two lots of the same waveform, and I feel that very careful cycle accurate data would need to be used to get that working. Da Jormas struggled with this too.

The AM is far more usable on any pair of waveforms, of course.

Fun news though, I have requested that this gets added to OctaMED Soundstudio and turned on per step (I hope it can be done!) so hopefully this feature will inspire a whole new breed of Amiga music.
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