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The Mac absolutely died. The brand lived on, not the platform. First the 680x0 line was dumped for PPC. Then the OS was dumped for X. Then the PPC was dumped for intel. Then the intel was dumped for Arm...
Saying the Mac lived on is like saying Trigger's (the street cleaner character from the UK comedy Only Fools and Horses) same broom lived on for 30 years having only had 17 new heads and 14 new handles. |
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...and when PPC arrived, you could still use your 68K programs for a while, etc... The ecosystem survived mostly unharmed, and it was and still is an active market for which you could buy software and hardware. For the 68K Amiga, well... there is a little bit of a retro market, but nothing as large as the Mac or Apple market. Don't judge from the particular specifications of the hardware, judge from the market perspective.
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I think Apple would rather disagree with that. The Mac platform is whatever Apple says it is.
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The original MacOS Toolbox API stuck around as Carbon until 2019, at which point The Cocoa (NeXT derived) API had existed for longer than the whole 68k Mac line did.
That's one hell of a migration trajectory, if that's not preserving a platform I don't know what is. |
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If Mac is Triggers Broom, the PC is The Ship of Theseus. |
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Legacy mode in UEFI already is low level emulation layer... If that was on ARM machine would you actually care as long as it works?
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Nope. It's like the Matrix with PCs: Nobody cares as long as it tastes like steak
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Finally I really wonder if you like the Amiga and what it represent as you regularly post such troll messages. |
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I was going to post this too. It's sketchy but it still runs and doubtless runs many non-game applications perfectly well. The key difference here to the Mac is that the core instruction set is still supported by the hardware even after all these decades.
It does also make you wonder where we might be if they'd been more forwards than backwards focused over that timeframe. |
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Realistically, we had to switch to PCs just to be compatible. I had an A3000 with 60MHZ 060, 32MB of RAM and RTG, but I couldn't run Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer so websites I wanted to use were not available. I also couldn't read word documents or pdf files, couldn't play Tomb Raider, couldn't program MCUs or make professional PCBs, couldn't use the new printers coming out etc. I was a hardcore Amiga fan who vowed never to give up on it, but there comes a time when it's too much effort for no gain. |
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